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j********t
发帖数: 201
1
Question: what is the future of SAS programmers when jobs are not so easy to
find?
Short answer: very bright.
Long answer: very bright depending on how you handle the situation, how you
purposely develop your knowledge and skills and adopt them to the current
needs.
Here is the trend:
1) 20 years ago: if you tell a hiring company that you know SAS, then you
get a job.
2) 10 years ago: if you have a master in statistics and you know SAS, then
you get a job.
3) Now: if you have a master / phd in statistics and you know SAS and you
have 1 year industry experience, then you .... probably .... get a job....
What is going on here?
the world is changing, the supply is increasing (so many stat majors), the
demand is changing - companies are expecting more and more from employees....
why?
The world asks for more from companies.
You can complain.
But complaining itself wont make your job searching better.
A better strategy is to look into yourself and ask: what I can do to make
myself attractive?
how?
1) review what you've learnt both from school and practice and make yourself
at home with all knowledge and skills. For example, if you as a stat major
cannot explain what p value is and what ci is to your hiring manager, then
you'd better sit down for a few evenings and try to understand them well
before you go more interviews.
2) study the trend of the industry: what it is looking for. For examples,
many pharm companies ask for SDTM skills from a candidate (just search
indeed or monster and read the job description), then you should try to
learn them.
3) study what SAS is doing. For example, SAS has developed many new things
recently: Bayesians, Java, Perl, even groovy. Do you know them? Can you
use them? Can you develop your skills sets to handle them? Remember SAS
is constantly studying the industry trend in order to be competitive. If
you just stick to base certificate or ADV certificate levels, you cannot
make yourself stand out from the crowd.
It is enough to just post your resume to monster or indeed.
It is never enough to concentrate on yourself and improve your self.
In my opinion, there is a great future for people with stat training and
programming skills. I'll explain what it is later.
b*****m
发帖数: 99
2
SAS jobs:
http://jobguiding.com/engineering/sas.html

to
you

【在 j********t 的大作中提到】
: Question: what is the future of SAS programmers when jobs are not so easy to
: find?
: Short answer: very bright.
: Long answer: very bright depending on how you handle the situation, how you
: purposely develop your knowledge and skills and adopt them to the current
: needs.
: Here is the trend:
: 1) 20 years ago: if you tell a hiring company that you know SAS, then you
: get a job.
: 2) 10 years ago: if you have a master in statistics and you know SAS, then

t*********e
发帖数: 313
3
very good points!
s********p
发帖数: 637
4

have 1 year industry experience, then you .... probably .... get a job....
Stat Ph.d with one year industry experience and know SAS well and can not
find a job, that is impossible,除非自身有太多缺陷!

【在 j********t 的大作中提到】
: Question: what is the future of SAS programmers when jobs are not so easy to
: find?
: Short answer: very bright.
: Long answer: very bright depending on how you handle the situation, how you
: purposely develop your knowledge and skills and adopt them to the current
: needs.
: Here is the trend:
: 1) 20 years ago: if you tell a hiring company that you know SAS, then you
: get a job.
: 2) 10 years ago: if you have a master in statistics and you know SAS, then

B******5
发帖数: 4676
5
SAS is useless for stat PhD

【在 s********p 的大作中提到】
:
: have 1 year industry experience, then you .... probably .... get a job....
: Stat Ph.d with one year industry experience and know SAS well and can not
: find a job, that is impossible,除非自身有太多缺陷!

C******y
发帖数: 2007
6
conditionally probably useless.

【在 B******5 的大作中提到】
: SAS is useless for stat PhD
m*******s
发帖数: 469
7
Today there are tons of people who claim they are SAS professionals, have
been using SAS for xyz years. I personally know a handful of them. Most of
them fall into one of the following categories:
1. Doing exclusive with SAS data step, and not familiar with anything else;
2. Working with one or two SAS proc's, and not knowing anything else;
3. Displaying SAS graphs in a fashion way, and not knowing anything else.
4. Adding some lines to existing SAS programs routinely, and thus believing
he is an experienced SAS programmer, even though he is highly unlikely to
know how to write a simple code on his own, for example to compute the sum
of integers from 1 to 100, without using Data step.
.....
j********t
发帖数: 201
8
Thanks for all the valuable comments and insightful observations:
1) SAS is (or may be) useless for stat ph.d. The conclusion is likely based
on looking at SAS as an inefficient tool for frontier statistical research.
It is really true. SAS might not be the best tool for your dissertation
or Biometrica publications. And many people might pick other tools like R.
And it is the reality at academics: professors or stat phd might be
inclined towards R or C or C++ when it comes to doing research in the
statistics field, not SAS.
2) "SAS professionals" might not be real "SAS" professionals. They might
just be
"professionals" without a good understanding of SAS itself. I see SAS
programmers with many years experiences still work at the copying and
pasting level.
However, to realize that SAS is useless for some ph.ds does not mean it is
useless for all ph.ds. I see Bancova student with stat phd became SAS
developpers at SAS institute; I see phds in stats are top macro system
authors in big pharmaceuticals. Whether it is useful depends on what you
are going to do with it in your life.
SAS can be a tool in your life; but to achieve your life goals, you might
use SAS as one tool, or you can use other tools.
For many people, SAS has become an important tool, a tool to bring paychecks
for one's family.
The reason of being so has something to do with the culture, the industry,
the legal regulation.
Thus, SAS represents a social phenomenon. Embedding itself in the
scientific and technological area, it has shaped and is shaping the society.
To that end, we (or some of us) need to master it, understand it, and use it
well. If not just for publishing papers, then for bringing paychecks to
our kids.
BTW: to be really serious about SAS, it's better to focus on the basics.
Its ok to talk about interview questions (one short to macro interview
questions http://bancova.com/?q=node/49), but you should go deeper to understand what is behind the questions. There might be shortcuts, but not for every one.
s*******t
发帖数: 9
9
这个johnuseast 满嘴胡言!自己对SAS 一知半解,还开什么训练班! I searched his
info and believe he lost his job 5 times...heheh...
l****u
发帖数: 529
10
看你的id,就知道你就是个捣乱的,John 好不好,自有大家出来评说。你要有本事,不
用批马甲,真身出来遛遛?
sasexpert(sx)个人资料
[sasexpert的博客]
身份: [用户]
伪币: 0.20
可用: 0.00
上站次数: [3]
发文数: [2]
经验值: [45](新手上路)
表现值: [7](努力中)
生命力: [89]
信箱: [ ]
在线状态: 目前不在站上

his

【在 s*******t 的大作中提到】
: 这个johnuseast 满嘴胡言!自己对SAS 一知半解,还开什么训练班! I searched his
: info and believe he lost his job 5 times...heheh...

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need VBA help please!求助,R 画图
p********a
发帖数: 5352
11
那也许是跳槽5次,步步高升呢?哈哈
JOHN的训练班我5年前参加过,感觉挺好的。再说了,训练班是FREE的,很多人想进还
未必能进呢。

his

【在 s*******t 的大作中提到】
: 这个johnuseast 满嘴胡言!自己对SAS 一知半解,还开什么训练班! I searched his
: info and believe he lost his job 5 times...heheh...

s*******t
发帖数: 9
12
步步高升?哈哈...then ask him what his title is now! 哈哈哈哈
---------------------------------------------------------
没有证据的恶意攻击部分版主先删了。。楼主别讲话太没谱了。--PAPERTIGRA
j********t
发帖数: 201
13
to help SAS programmers, sasqa.org is opened for use; you can try it to see
if it helps.
t*********l
发帖数: 778
14
是啊, 我就是那个想进还进不了的。 因为没统计学历,只好自学了。
还好工作中有机会看到一个consultant 写的SAS code, 才知道什么是真正的code.
自己那些只能叫幼儿园级别吧。

【在 p********a 的大作中提到】
: 那也许是跳槽5次,步步高升呢?哈哈
: JOHN的训练班我5年前参加过,感觉挺好的。再说了,训练班是FREE的,很多人想进还
: 未必能进呢。
:
: his

j********t
发帖数: 201
15
sorry to hear that.
i wish we can admit more....but the resources are just too limited...
one option is to let students study by themselves. actually, two of
students got their jobs because of that... still I believe in hard training
... no sweating, no harvesting
no easy short cut....

【在 t*********l 的大作中提到】
: 是啊, 我就是那个想进还进不了的。 因为没统计学历,只好自学了。
: 还好工作中有机会看到一个consultant 写的SAS code, 才知道什么是真正的code.
: 自己那些只能叫幼儿园级别吧。

p********a
发帖数: 5352
16
只要有机会入门,统计学历都不重要。

【在 t*********l 的大作中提到】
: 是啊, 我就是那个想进还进不了的。 因为没统计学历,只好自学了。
: 还好工作中有机会看到一个consultant 写的SAS code, 才知道什么是真正的code.
: 自己那些只能叫幼儿园级别吧。

p*******e
发帖数: 746
17
Thanks for sharing!!
s********1
发帖数: 54
18
When you said " for example to compute the sum
of integers from 1 to 100, without using Data step." What do you mean? Can
you give me one exmaple?

believing

【在 m*******s 的大作中提到】
: Today there are tons of people who claim they are SAS professionals, have
: been using SAS for xyz years. I personally know a handful of them. Most of
: them fall into one of the following categories:
: 1. Doing exclusive with SAS data step, and not familiar with anything else;
: 2. Working with one or two SAS proc's, and not knowing anything else;
: 3. Displaying SAS graphs in a fashion way, and not knowing anything else.
: 4. Adding some lines to existing SAS programs routinely, and thus believing
: he is an experienced SAS programmer, even though he is highly unlikely to
: know how to write a simple code on his own, for example to compute the sum
: of integers from 1 to 100, without using Data step.

j********t
发帖数: 201
19
Question: what is the future of SAS programmers when jobs are not so easy to
find?
Short answer: very bright.
Long answer: very bright depending on how you handle the situation, how you
purposely develop your knowledge and skills and adopt them to the current
needs.
Here is the trend:
1) 20 years ago: if you tell a hiring company that you know SAS, then you
get a job.
2) 10 years ago: if you have a master in statistics and you know SAS, then
you get a job.
3) Now: if you have a master / phd in statistics and you know SAS and you
have 1 year industry experience, then you .... probably .... get a job....
What is going on here?
the world is changing, the supply is increasing (so many stat majors), the
demand is changing - companies are expecting more and more from employees....
why?
The world asks for more from companies.
You can complain.
But complaining itself wont make your job searching better.
A better strategy is to look into yourself and ask: what I can do to make
myself attractive?
how?
1) review what you've learnt both from school and practice and make yourself
at home with all knowledge and skills. For example, if you as a stat major
cannot explain what p value is and what ci is to your hiring manager, then
you'd better sit down for a few evenings and try to understand them well
before you go more interviews.
2) study the trend of the industry: what it is looking for. For examples,
many pharm companies ask for SDTM skills from a candidate (just search
indeed or monster and read the job description), then you should try to
learn them.
3) study what SAS is doing. For example, SAS has developed many new things
recently: Bayesians, Java, Perl, even groovy. Do you know them? Can you
use them? Can you develop your skills sets to handle them? Remember SAS
is constantly studying the industry trend in order to be competitive. If
you just stick to base certificate or ADV certificate levels, you cannot
make yourself stand out from the crowd.
It is enough to just post your resume to monster or indeed.
It is never enough to concentrate on yourself and improve your self.
In my opinion, there is a great future for people with stat training and
programming skills. I'll explain what it is later.
b*****m
发帖数: 99
20
SAS jobs:
http://jobguiding.com/engineering/sas.html

to
you

【在 j********t 的大作中提到】
: Question: what is the future of SAS programmers when jobs are not so easy to
: find?
: Short answer: very bright.
: Long answer: very bright depending on how you handle the situation, how you
: purposely develop your knowledge and skills and adopt them to the current
: needs.
: Here is the trend:
: 1) 20 years ago: if you tell a hiring company that you know SAS, then you
: get a job.
: 2) 10 years ago: if you have a master in statistics and you know SAS, then

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怎样用R做重复性的工作工作快一年,下面该往哪个方向努力呢?
t*********e
发帖数: 313
21
very good points!
s********p
发帖数: 637
22

have 1 year industry experience, then you .... probably .... get a job....
Stat Ph.d with one year industry experience and know SAS well and can not
find a job, that is impossible,除非自身有太多缺陷!

【在 j********t 的大作中提到】
: Question: what is the future of SAS programmers when jobs are not so easy to
: find?
: Short answer: very bright.
: Long answer: very bright depending on how you handle the situation, how you
: purposely develop your knowledge and skills and adopt them to the current
: needs.
: Here is the trend:
: 1) 20 years ago: if you tell a hiring company that you know SAS, then you
: get a job.
: 2) 10 years ago: if you have a master in statistics and you know SAS, then

B******5
发帖数: 4676
23
SAS is useless for stat PhD

【在 s********p 的大作中提到】
:
: have 1 year industry experience, then you .... probably .... get a job....
: Stat Ph.d with one year industry experience and know SAS well and can not
: find a job, that is impossible,除非自身有太多缺陷!

C******y
发帖数: 2007
24
conditionally probably useless.

【在 B******5 的大作中提到】
: SAS is useless for stat PhD
m*******s
发帖数: 469
25
Today there are tons of people who claim they are SAS professionals, have
been using SAS for xyz years. I personally know a handful of them. Most of
them fall into one of the following categories:
1. Doing exclusive with SAS data step, and not familiar with anything else;
2. Working with one or two SAS proc's, and not knowing anything else;
3. Displaying SAS graphs in a fashion way, and not knowing anything else.
4. Adding some lines to existing SAS programs routinely, and thus believing
he is an experienced SAS programmer, even though he is highly unlikely to
know how to write a simple code on his own, for example to compute the sum
of integers from 1 to 100, without using Data step.
.....
j********t
发帖数: 201
26
Thanks for all the valuable comments and insightful observations:
1) SAS is (or may be) useless for stat ph.d. The conclusion is likely based
on looking at SAS as an inefficient tool for frontier statistical research.
It is really true. SAS might not be the best tool for your dissertation
or Biometrica publications. And many people might pick other tools like R.
And it is the reality at academics: professors or stat phd might be
inclined towards R or C or C++ when it comes to doing research in the
statistics field, not SAS.
2) "SAS professionals" might not be real "SAS" professionals. They might
just be
"professionals" without a good understanding of SAS itself. I see SAS
programmers with many years experiences still work at the copying and
pasting level.
However, to realize that SAS is useless for some ph.ds does not mean it is
useless for all ph.ds. I see Bancova student with stat phd became SAS
developpers at SAS institute; I see phds in stats are top macro system
authors in big pharmaceuticals. Whether it is useful depends on what you
are going to do with it in your life.
SAS can be a tool in your life; but to achieve your life goals, you might
use SAS as one tool, or you can use other tools.
For many people, SAS has become an important tool, a tool to bring paychecks
for one's family.
The reason of being so has something to do with the culture, the industry,
the legal regulation.
Thus, SAS represents a social phenomenon. Embedding itself in the
scientific and technological area, it has shaped and is shaping the society.
To that end, we (or some of us) need to master it, understand it, and use it
well. If not just for publishing papers, then for bringing paychecks to
our kids.
BTW: to be really serious about SAS, it's better to focus on the basics.
Its ok to talk about interview questions (one short to macro interview
questions http://bancova.com/?q=node/49), but you should go deeper to understand what is behind the questions. There might be shortcuts, but not for every one.
s*******t
发帖数: 9
27
这个johnuseast 满嘴胡言!自己对SAS 一知半解,还开什么训练班! I searched his
info and believe he lost his job 5 times...heheh...
l****u
发帖数: 529
28
看你的id,就知道你就是个捣乱的,John 好不好,自有大家出来评说。你要有本事,不
用批马甲,真身出来遛遛?
sasexpert(sx)个人资料
[sasexpert的博客]
身份: [用户]
伪币: 0.20
可用: 0.00
上站次数: [3]
发文数: [2]
经验值: [45](新手上路)
表现值: [7](努力中)
生命力: [89]
信箱: [ ]
在线状态: 目前不在站上

his

【在 s*******t 的大作中提到】
: 这个johnuseast 满嘴胡言!自己对SAS 一知半解,还开什么训练班! I searched his
: info and believe he lost his job 5 times...heheh...

p********a
发帖数: 5352
29
那也许是跳槽5次,步步高升呢?哈哈
JOHN的训练班我5年前参加过,感觉挺好的。再说了,训练班是FREE的,很多人想进还
未必能进呢。

his

【在 s*******t 的大作中提到】
: 这个johnuseast 满嘴胡言!自己对SAS 一知半解,还开什么训练班! I searched his
: info and believe he lost his job 5 times...heheh...

s*******t
发帖数: 9
30
步步高升?哈哈...then ask him what his title is now! 哈哈哈哈
---------------------------------------------------------
没有证据的恶意攻击部分版主先删了。。楼主别讲话太没谱了。--PAPERTIGRA
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j********t
发帖数: 201
31
to help SAS programmers, sasqa.org is opened for use; you can try it to see
if it helps.
t*********l
发帖数: 778
32
是啊, 我就是那个想进还进不了的。 因为没统计学历,只好自学了。
还好工作中有机会看到一个consultant 写的SAS code, 才知道什么是真正的code.
自己那些只能叫幼儿园级别吧。

【在 p********a 的大作中提到】
: 那也许是跳槽5次,步步高升呢?哈哈
: JOHN的训练班我5年前参加过,感觉挺好的。再说了,训练班是FREE的,很多人想进还
: 未必能进呢。
:
: his

j********t
发帖数: 201
33
sorry to hear that.
i wish we can admit more....but the resources are just too limited...
one option is to let students study by themselves. actually, two of
students got their jobs because of that... still I believe in hard training
... no sweating, no harvesting
no easy short cut....

【在 t*********l 的大作中提到】
: 是啊, 我就是那个想进还进不了的。 因为没统计学历,只好自学了。
: 还好工作中有机会看到一个consultant 写的SAS code, 才知道什么是真正的code.
: 自己那些只能叫幼儿园级别吧。

p********a
发帖数: 5352
34
只要有机会入门,统计学历都不重要。

【在 t*********l 的大作中提到】
: 是啊, 我就是那个想进还进不了的。 因为没统计学历,只好自学了。
: 还好工作中有机会看到一个consultant 写的SAS code, 才知道什么是真正的code.
: 自己那些只能叫幼儿园级别吧。

p*******e
发帖数: 746
35
Thanks for sharing!!
s********1
发帖数: 54
36
When you said " for example to compute the sum
of integers from 1 to 100, without using Data step." What do you mean? Can
you give me one exmaple?

believing

【在 m*******s 的大作中提到】
: Today there are tons of people who claim they are SAS professionals, have
: been using SAS for xyz years. I personally know a handful of them. Most of
: them fall into one of the following categories:
: 1. Doing exclusive with SAS data step, and not familiar with anything else;
: 2. Working with one or two SAS proc's, and not knowing anything else;
: 3. Displaying SAS graphs in a fashion way, and not knowing anything else.
: 4. Adding some lines to existing SAS programs routinely, and thus believing
: he is an experienced SAS programmer, even though he is highly unlikely to
: know how to write a simple code on his own, for example to compute the sum
: of integers from 1 to 100, without using Data step.

i****o
发帖数: 242
37
good wisdom
y*****w
发帖数: 1350
38
He does not know PROC MEANS.

【在 s********1 的大作中提到】
: When you said " for example to compute the sum
: of integers from 1 to 100, without using Data step." What do you mean? Can
: you give me one exmaple?
:
: believing

a*****4
发帖数: 986
39
完了,我感觉我就是这位说的。。。可是正如所说,SAS仅仅是工具,只要能解决工作
中的问题,不一定要弄很复杂吧。
还有困惑是,要学更多的SAS技能,我感觉是跟所在的公司和做的项目有关,如果工作
中不涉及用那些新的code,也没有机会学。
所以不能在一家公司呆太久或者要转到其他部门(非技术类),可惜又受身份问题限制
,不好随便跳。

believing

【在 m*******s 的大作中提到】
: Today there are tons of people who claim they are SAS professionals, have
: been using SAS for xyz years. I personally know a handful of them. Most of
: them fall into one of the following categories:
: 1. Doing exclusive with SAS data step, and not familiar with anything else;
: 2. Working with one or two SAS proc's, and not knowing anything else;
: 3. Displaying SAS graphs in a fashion way, and not knowing anything else.
: 4. Adding some lines to existing SAS programs routinely, and thus believing
: he is an experienced SAS programmer, even though he is highly unlikely to
: know how to write a simple code on his own, for example to compute the sum
: of integers from 1 to 100, without using Data step.

s******0
发帖数: 1269
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I just want to point out one thing.
Some claimed SAS profressional with so many years of experience can easily
find a job even though their only skills are copying and pasting. In
contrast, people who claim they have good sas knowledge but find themselves
really hard to find a job. Why? I think most of the people here knows the
answer, especially in a economic downturn and we need sponsorship.
We can not expect ourselves knowing everything even through we always tried
to. Without being in a industry, you have no idea about what they do and
there is no way to learn the skills in industry. If you have a good boss
when you at school and get exposed to some industry useful skill, you are
lucky. I still remembered someone in a manager level from a big insurance
company told me that if he hire a person, he will give the person 6 months
or a year to be familiar with data.
As far as I know, Bancova training is good and it did help some people find
the job. However, you should ask yourself whether you like this industry or
not. Is this the industry you want to spend the rest of your life. People
without Stat backgroud can find a job in pharm industry, I am not surprise
at all. I think this person must really like sas programming and spend huge
amount of time on it. He should deserve that.
SAS is a tool. That's right. So are R, C++,perl,python, hadoop. If you want
to go into pharm, you can try it. Win, you win everything. Lose, you only
lose 800 buck + sometime
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p*******e
发帖数: 746
41
Mark :)
i****o
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good wisdom
y*****w
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He does not know PROC MEANS.

【在 s********1 的大作中提到】
: When you said " for example to compute the sum
: of integers from 1 to 100, without using Data step." What do you mean? Can
: you give me one exmaple?
:
: believing

a*****4
发帖数: 986
44
完了,我感觉我就是这位说的。。。可是正如所说,SAS仅仅是工具,只要能解决工作
中的问题,不一定要弄很复杂吧。
还有困惑是,要学更多的SAS技能,我感觉是跟所在的公司和做的项目有关,如果工作
中不涉及用那些新的code,也没有机会学。
所以不能在一家公司呆太久或者要转到其他部门(非技术类),可惜又受身份问题限制
,不好随便跳。

believing

【在 m*******s 的大作中提到】
: Today there are tons of people who claim they are SAS professionals, have
: been using SAS for xyz years. I personally know a handful of them. Most of
: them fall into one of the following categories:
: 1. Doing exclusive with SAS data step, and not familiar with anything else;
: 2. Working with one or two SAS proc's, and not knowing anything else;
: 3. Displaying SAS graphs in a fashion way, and not knowing anything else.
: 4. Adding some lines to existing SAS programs routinely, and thus believing
: he is an experienced SAS programmer, even though he is highly unlikely to
: know how to write a simple code on his own, for example to compute the sum
: of integers from 1 to 100, without using Data step.

s******0
发帖数: 1269
45
I just want to point out one thing.
Some claimed SAS profressional with so many years of experience can easily
find a job even though their only skills are copying and pasting. In
contrast, people who claim they have good sas knowledge but find themselves
really hard to find a job. Why? I think most of the people here knows the
answer, especially in a economic downturn and we need sponsorship.
We can not expect ourselves knowing everything even through we always tried
to. Without being in a industry, you have no idea about what they do and
there is no way to learn the skills in industry. If you have a good boss
when you at school and get exposed to some industry useful skill, you are
lucky. I still remembered someone in a manager level from a big insurance
company told me that if he hire a person, he will give the person 6 months
or a year to be familiar with data.
As far as I know, Bancova training is good and it did help some people find
the job. However, you should ask yourself whether you like this industry or
not. Is this the industry you want to spend the rest of your life. People
without Stat backgroud can find a job in pharm industry, I am not surprise
at all. I think this person must really like sas programming and spend huge
amount of time on it. He should deserve that.
SAS is a tool. That's right. So are R, C++,perl,python, hadoop. If you want
to go into pharm, you can try it. Win, you win everything. Lose, you only
lose 800 buck + sometime
p*******e
发帖数: 746
46
Mark :)
t******o
发帖数: 6493
47
20年前真好啊,估计会个proc print已经是principal了
t******o
发帖数: 6493
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20年前真好啊,估计会个proc print已经是principal了
j*******9
发帖数: 2
49
Usually dedgree is more important for applicant for analyst position; but,
for sas programmer in banking/insurance/other industries, the statistics
degree does not matter. There are many applicants from other fields who got
the jobs as sas programmer. It is better to learn sas base and advanced. If
possible, do some workshop or projects to get hands-on sas programming
skills. there are many training schools to offer sas programming. one of
them is bitrainingstar.com thanks.
x*****p
发帖数: 65
50
I think in a lot of industries, there will be no such position called SAS
programmers just like there wont be a position called typist or senior excel
user. This was a position for specialized data analyst who can leverage
this data analytic tool. Now since the emerging of other tools (R etc.), It
will all come back to the nature of the function -- data analyst, modeler
etc.
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