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还有没有类似 contango的陷阱?抄了点USO和XIV
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VIX futures的基金都在怀疑中UNG即将反弹
vix跌了9%,为啥vxx才跌了2%不到?Look at oil ...
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Natural Gas, Contango, And UNG
1 comment | February 1, 2012 | about: UNG, includes: USO, VXX

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I have talked at length in this space about the contango and negative roll
yield issues that plague VXX. Periodically these discussions trigger a
question from a reader about the impact of contango on some of the other
ETPs.
Just to be clear, as far as ETPs are concerned, contango and backwardation
issues are limited solely to those products which hold futures in their
portfolio. The large majority of futures-based ETPs are in the commodity
space, but in theory at least, any security for which there are futures
could end up with a futures-based ETP. Fortunately, ETFdb keeps a handy list
of these products at their Futures-Based ETF page.
The main reason why I talk so much about contango in the context of VIX-
based ETPs is that the VIX products have a tendency to produce huge levels
of negative roll yield (at a rate of 11% per month at the moment in the
front two months of the VIX futures) relative to the other products.
Outside of the VIX product space, contango is probably most notorious in
crude oil and natural gas – and the two most popular ETPs for these
commodities, USO and UNG. Still, contango in these products is generally
much smaller than it is with VXX, but right now contango is unusually high
in UNG. While contango (front two months) in USO is only 0.4% right now, it
is actually at 7.6% per month in UNG.
Note that unlike VXX, which has a daily roll, UNG rolls its entire portfolio
over the course of four days per month. Better yet, UNG publishes a
schedule of their roll dates, reprinted below, thought it does come with the
disclaimer “Roll Dates are projected and subject to change without notice.”
So…while it has already been a great year for those who are short natural
gas, it is possible that persistent contango will make short UNG positions
even more profitable going forward.
Finally and perhaps most importantly, it is critical to keep in mind that
steep contango does not happen willy nilly. Instead, contango is essentially
a reflection of where the market expects prices to be headed (net of the
cost of carry) in the future. Looked at in this context, UNG contango of 7.6
% means that the reason shorts are receiving a 7.6% benefit from the
negative roll yield is that the market anticipates prices will rebound 7-8%
or so over the course of the next month. Contango and roll yield are not a
free lunch by a long shot, but over the long term, if risk can be properly
managed, positions that benefit from contango should be able to finance at
least a few lunches.
[source(s): United States Natural Gas Fund]
Disclosure(s): short VXX and UNG at time of writing
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现在明白为什么说 gas 作 future 比 ETF UNG 好了吧。

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Look at oil ...Who knows why the vix futures have such big contango?
为什么有人说UNG不要长期持有?有没有长期空VXX的?
继续喊UNG真烂VIX futures的基金都在怀疑中
UNG,为什么涨了?vix跌了9%,为啥vxx才跌了2%不到?
我已经买了uvxy,今天4点前要不要抛掉?再说一遍,uvxy是2x近期vix futures
完蛋,群主怎么删了一条我计算UVXY和SPY关系的帖子??真来个87年的黑色星期一,UVXY能涨多少?
UNG和VXX是2个总是有巨大的CONTANGO,永远可以SHORT的东西VIX能弄spread trade吗?
还有没有类似 contango的陷阱?抄了点USO和XIV
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