b***j
发帖数: 554 | 1 08年我在我们公司的Dependent Care Account里放了2000，在我老婆那边放了3000.要
报税了，仔细一看在我们公司的W2里根本没有那2000的记录，而我老婆公司把那3000放
W2的第10个格里了。不知道哪个公司对？还是都对？
我的理解在Dependent Care Account里的钱不用交税，但我发现用Tax Cut软件保税的
时候，别的东西都不变，填不填W2第10格的那3000块，我最后的Fed Tax差不多差500多
。所以好像Tax Cut是把那3000块算收入里了。这样一来一定有个W2表示错的了，或者
是Tax Cut错了。
明白人能不能给讲讲？多谢，多谢。 | d****e
发帖数: 326 | 2 一般应该在w-2表现出来
【在 b***j 的大作中提到】
: 08年我在我们公司的Dependent Care Account里放了2000，在我老婆那边放了3000.要
: 报税了，仔细一看在我们公司的W2里根本没有那2000的记录，而我老婆公司把那3000放
: W2的第10个格里了。不知道哪个公司对？还是都对？
: 我的理解在Dependent Care Account里的钱不用交税，但我发现用Tax Cut软件保税的
: 时候，别的东西都不变，填不填W2第10格的那3000块，我最后的Fed Tax差不多差500多
: 。所以好像Tax Cut是把那3000块算收入里了。这样一来一定有个W2表示错的了，或者
: 是Tax Cut错了。
: 明白人能不能给讲讲？多谢，多谢。
| c**c
发帖数: 47 | 3 Does your box 1 Gross wage already subtract that 2000 or 3000? Mine is in
box 14. I guess it does not matter where they put in w2 as long as your
gross wage already subtract that amount.
【在 b***j 的大作中提到】
: 08年我在我们公司的Dependent Care Account里放了2000，在我老婆那边放了3000.要
: 报税了，仔细一看在我们公司的W2里根本没有那2000的记录，而我老婆公司把那3000放
: W2的第10个格里了。不知道哪个公司对？还是都对？
: 我的理解在Dependent Care Account里的钱不用交税，但我发现用Tax Cut软件保税的
: 时候，别的东西都不变，填不填W2第10格的那3000块，我最后的Fed Tax差不多差500多
: 。所以好像Tax Cut是把那3000块算收入里了。这样一来一定有个W2表示错的了，或者
: 是Tax Cut错了。
: 明白人能不能给讲讲？多谢，多谢。
| b***j
发帖数: 554 | 4 Yes, it was subtracted from box1 in both W2s. But the strange thing is that
it is listed in box10 on one W2 but not listed at all on the other. Also,
according to Tax Cut, the 2000 in box10 indeed increase my total tax payout.
So i am not sure whether my company is wrong (it should be listed) or my
wife's company is wrong (it should NOT be listed) or the Tax Cut is wrong (
it doesn't matter whether it is listed).
Thanks.
【在 c**c 的大作中提到】
: Does your box 1 Gross wage already subtract that 2000 or 3000? Mine is in
: box 14. I guess it does not matter where they put in w2 as long as your
: gross wage already subtract that amount.
| c**c
发帖数: 47 | 5 Both are correct. if FSA list in Box10, you need filed 2441, it will be same
as box 10 without 2441. if FSA not in Box10 and more than 3000(one child),
do not filed 2441. result is same. If you only have one child, allow 3000,
just put your wife 3000 in 2441 , you tax is same as box 10 is blank without
2441,if you have two children, if you filed joint return, should you put
2000 in your box10, then filed 2441?
that
payout.
【在 b***j 的大作中提到】
: Yes, it was subtracted from box1 in both W2s. But the strange thing is that
: it is listed in box10 on one W2 but not listed at all on the other. Also,
: according to Tax Cut, the 2000 in box10 indeed increase my total tax payout.
: So i am not sure whether my company is wrong (it should be listed) or my
: wife's company is wrong (it should NOT be listed) or the Tax Cut is wrong (
: it doesn't matter whether it is listed).
: Thanks.
| b***j
发帖数: 554 | 6 不好意思，没看明白。我们file joint return，只有一个小孩，去年day care只上了
半年，所以只花了8000左右。我这种情况你是说只有FSA在box10里的时候，才能file
2441，如果box10是空的就不能file了？
我仔细看了一下Tax Cut，发现是它不管Box10里有没有东西都给我file 2441，所以如
果Box10里有3000块的话，我只能拿几十块钱的credit，而如果box10是0的话，我能拿
600的credit。这样的话box10里的数对我就很重要。难道是Tax Cut弄错了？具体规定
去哪里找？2441的说明？我google里一下有关box10的规定，没找到。
多谢，多谢。
same
,
without
【在 c**c 的大作中提到】
: Both are correct. if FSA list in Box10, you need filed 2441, it will be same
: as box 10 without 2441. if FSA not in Box10 and more than 3000(one child),
: do not filed 2441. result is same. If you only have one child, allow 3000,
: just put your wife 3000 in 2441 , you tax is same as box 10 is blank without
: 2441,if you have two children, if you filed joint return, should you put
: 2000 in your box10, then filed 2441?
:
: that
: payout.
| c**c
发帖数: 47 | 7 if you only have one child, you and your wife already have $5000 in FSA.
Your child expense credit should be 0, no credit at all.
on 2441, you should begin with "Do you get child care benefit?"--Yes, then
put box 10 there. Your final credit is same as leave box 10 without 2441. no
credit.One child only allow $3000. you already have $5000 in FSA. You can
not claim day care expense credit.
【在 b***j 的大作中提到】
: 不好意思，没看明白。我们file joint return，只有一个小孩，去年day care只上了
: 半年，所以只花了8000左右。我这种情况你是说只有FSA在box10里的时候，才能file
: 2441，如果box10是空的就不能file了？
: 我仔细看了一下Tax Cut，发现是它不管Box10里有没有东西都给我file 2441，所以如
: 果Box10里有3000块的话，我只能拿几十块钱的credit，而如果box10是0的话，我能拿
: 600的credit。这样的话box10里的数对我就很重要。难道是Tax Cut弄错了？具体规定
: 去哪里找？2441的说明？我google里一下有关box10的规定，没找到。
: 多谢，多谢。
:
: same
| c**c
发帖数: 47 | 8 if you leave box 10 blank, you should answer "no" when it asked you whether
you have qualified day care expense becasue you already have $5000 in FSA.
if you answer no, it will not file 2441.if you filled box 10, then file 2441
, PartIII.
【在 b***j 的大作中提到】
: 不好意思，没看明白。我们file joint return，只有一个小孩，去年day care只上了
: 半年，所以只花了8000左右。我这种情况你是说只有FSA在box10里的时候，才能file
: 2441，如果box10是空的就不能file了？
: 我仔细看了一下Tax Cut，发现是它不管Box10里有没有东西都给我file 2441，所以如
: 果Box10里有3000块的话，我只能拿几十块钱的credit，而如果box10是0的话，我能拿
: 600的credit。这样的话box10里的数对我就很重要。难道是Tax Cut弄错了？具体规定
: 去哪里找？2441的说明？我google里一下有关box10的规定，没找到。
: 多谢，多谢。
:
: same
| b***j
发帖数: 554 | 9 I got you. That means the W2 from my wife's company is correct but the one
from my company is wrong. Because if Box10 is blank, I still can fill 2441
and answer "Yes" for "whether you have qualified day care expense" (I do
have 8000 qualified expenses), in that way I will get 600 credit.
Am I right? Thanks.
whether
2441
【在 c**c 的大作中提到】
: if you leave box 10 blank, you should answer "no" when it asked you whether
: you have qualified day care expense becasue you already have $5000 in FSA.
: if you answer no, it will not file 2441.if you filled box 10, then file 2441
: , PartIII.
| c**c
发帖数: 47 | 10 My w2 box 10 is blank. I answer "No" when it asked whether I have qualified
day care expense" because I already put $5000 in FSA(I also spend $8000 in
day care). I just do not know if I answer "yes",which can get $600 credit,
how IRS know I already have $5000 in FSA if there is not in my W2. But I
will not take any risk which we should not do.
in your case, your wife's W2 box10 is $3000 (maxiumn of child care expense),
no matter how much you spend. You need answer yes, after 2441 partIII, you
wi
【在 b***j 的大作中提到】
: I got you. That means the W2 from my wife's company is correct but the one
: from my company is wrong. Because if Box10 is blank, I still can fill 2441
: and answer "Yes" for "whether you have qualified day care expense" (I do
: have 8000 qualified expenses), in that way I will get 600 credit.
: Am I right? Thanks.
:
: whether
: 2441
| b***j
发帖数: 554 | 11 I will read the instructions for 2441 carefully. Thanks a lot for your help
on this issue. Really appreciate.
qualified
in
),
【在 c**c 的大作中提到】
: My w2 box 10 is blank. I answer "No" when it asked whether I have qualified
: day care expense" because I already put $5000 in FSA(I also spend $8000 in
: day care). I just do not know if I answer "yes",which can get $600 credit,
: how IRS know I already have $5000 in FSA if there is not in my W2. But I
: will not take any risk which we should not do.
: in your case, your wife's W2 box10 is $3000 (maxiumn of child care expense),
: no matter how much you spend. You need answer yes, after 2441 partIII, you
: wi
| a***i
发帖数: 144 | 12 我的理解:
W2你的WAGES栏里应该不包括你CONTRIBUTE到DC-FSA里面的$2000.另外一个BOX,嗯,应该
就是你说的BOX 10吧,应该列出$2000.
你们夫妻必须FILE JONTLY才能享受全部的$5000 DC-FSA,我记得如果FILE SEPARATE的
话,只能有一个人CLIAM 孩子,并且享受DC-FSA,另外一个不CLAIM孩子的得把DC-FSA里面
的钱加回到TAXABLE INCOME 里面.
你应该填2441表,并且你应该是得不到CHILD CARE CREDIT的.因为一个孩子IRS允许$
3000可以得CREDIT.如果你已经享受了超过$3000块的DC-FSA 免税的BENEFIT了话,那就
没有任何QUALIFIED的CHILDCARE EXPENSE可以用来申请CHILD CARE CREDIT
如果你的TAX软件只认出来你们享受了$2000块的DC-FSA免税BENEFIT,它可能会把另外允
许的$1000块申请CHILD CARE CREDIT.比例可能是0.2,也就是说,1000*0.2=200块钱的
CREDIT. | a***i
发帖数: 144 | 13 2441表里有好几个EXPENSE项,每项都略有不同.
我的理解:
line 1 (d)是你的花费.
Part III line 18 "qualified expenses",指的是你当年付的,用于当年DAYCARE 服务
的钱(Paid and incurred in 2008)
Part II line 2 (c) "qualified expenses", 我觉得应该是: min (line 18
qualified expenses, $3000) - DCFSA benefits
比如说,你花了$7000,Part III line 18 应该填$7000.你们的DC-FSA有$5000,并且你们
用了这$5000来REIMBURSE了,min($7000,$3000) - $5000 < 0,所以Part II line 2(c)
应该是0.
如果,你花了$2000,DC-FSA有$1400,那么,min($2000,$3000) - $1400 = $600, PART II
line 2(c)应该就填600.
不知道你软件问的是哪个"QUALIFIED EXPENSE |
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