t***s
发帖数: 1877 | 1 I will be really surprised if this is true...
发信站: 水木社区 (Tue Nov 10 12:34:41 2009), 站内
新浪体育讯 北京时间11月10日消息，阿加西的自传《公开》在还未上市之前就因为
一些秘密的曝光而吸引了诸人的眼球，显然这本自传并不会只公开这位八次大满贯得主
的秘密，书中阿加西还提到了网球，其中包括昔日赛场一起征战的对手，还有一些特别
的时刻，只是美国人的说法着实有些让人意外。
关于桑普拉斯：阿加西称桑普拉斯听上去比鹦鹉还呆，他还说：“我羡慕皮特的迟
钝，我希望也能像他一样缺乏灵感，并且可以像他一样根本不需要灵感。”这显然是在
讽刺，阿加西透露他曾经与昔日恩师吉尔伯特一起打赌，猜桑普拉斯会给泊车小弟多少
小费，后来他们在当事人那里得到的答案是一美元。提到桑普拉斯和自己，阿加西总结
说：“我和皮特完全不是同道中人。”
关于张德培：“他不仅感谢上帝，而且还将胜利归功于上帝，这对我是一种冒犯。
他所说的上帝在网球比赛中显然并不公正，上帝选择的还是我的对立面，那个上帝估计
就坐在张德培的包厢里，这不仅可笑而且是一种侮辱。每 |
T******n
发帖数: 1131 | 2 He probably said "that's sick". This is a common expression among American
teenagers. |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 3 This is actually a not-bad translation.
http://www.tennis.com/news/news.aspx?id=191644
— On Sampras: Agassi says Sampras “sounds more robotic than” a parrot. At
his depths, Agassi thinks: “I envy Pete’s dullness. I wish I could
emulate his spectacular lack of inspiration, and his peculiar lack of need
for inspiration.” Agassi tells of betting coach Brad Gilbert about how much
Sampras tipped a parking valet; they ask the valet, who says $1; Agassi’s
conclusion: “We could not be more different, Pe
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: I will be really surprised if this is true...
: 发信站: 水木社区 (Tue Nov 10 12:34:41 2009), 站内
: 新浪体育讯 北京时间11月10日消息，阿加西的自传《公开》在还未上市之前就因为
: 一些秘密的曝光而吸引了诸人的眼球，显然这本自传并不会只公开这位八次大满贯得主
: 的秘密，书中阿加西还提到了网球，其中包括昔日赛场一起征战的对手，还有一些特别
: 的时刻，只是美国人的说法着实有些让人意外。
: 关于桑普拉斯：阿加西称桑普拉斯听上去比鹦鹉还呆，他还说：“我羡慕皮特的迟
: 钝，我希望也能像他一样缺乏灵感，并且可以像他一样根本不需要灵感。”这显然是在
: 讽刺，阿加西透露他曾经与昔日恩师吉尔伯特一起打赌，猜桑普拉斯会给泊车小弟多少
: 小费，后来他们在当事人那里得到的答案是一美元。提到桑普拉斯和自己，阿加西总结
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f***s
发帖数: 1582 | 4 Those remarks may cost him many fans. What he said seems disgusting. |
y****2
发帖数: 1601 | 5 was he drunk when he wrote these? |
R*****n
发帖数: 610 | 6 This is really a surprised. but at least he is honest. Interview:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,660148,00.html |
A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 7 he is well-known bad boy in tennis world.
【在 y****2 的大作中提到】
: was he drunk when he wrote these?
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h*******e
发帖数: 1171 | 8 Great interview, great talk and I will buy his book.
【在 R*****n 的大作中提到】
: This is really a surprised. but at least he is honest. Interview:
: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,660148,00.html
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R*****n
发帖数: 610 | 9 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307268195/ref=s9_simz_gw_s0_p14_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=069H10JH5MZCNPV1D951&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
tennis maybe an elegant sport, but the process of training to be
professional and even champion is brutal and cruel, especially for Agassi.
I don't think money is the motivation for this book. He wants to show his
true feeling, frustration and struggle. thanks for being honest... |
h****n
发帖数: 4860 | |
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r****y
发帖数: 26819 | 11 阿加西找到了赚奶粉钱的新办法？
【在 h****n 的大作中提到】
: 阿加西是个真小人，桑普拉斯是个真君子
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a*i
发帖数: 1652 | 12 "Thanks for being honest..."? LOL
If he returns the money, I'll respect him.
【在 R*****n 的大作中提到】
: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307268195/ref=s9_simz_gw_s0_p14_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=069H10JH5MZCNPV1D951&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
: tennis maybe an elegant sport, but the process of training to be
: professional and even champion is brutal and cruel, especially for Agassi.
: I don't think money is the motivation for this book. He wants to show his
: true feeling, frustration and struggle. thanks for being honest...
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R*****n
发帖数: 610 | 13 Whether he should return the money, from my point of view, depends on
whether he gained benefit and perform better to win. i doubt it... |
J****0
发帖数: 2400 | 14 自作聪明的无胆鼠类。
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: I will be really surprised if this is true...
: 发信站: 水木社区 (Tue Nov 10 12:34:41 2009), 站内
: 新浪体育讯 北京时间11月10日消息，阿加西的自传《公开》在还未上市之前就因为
: 一些秘密的曝光而吸引了诸人的眼球，显然这本自传并不会只公开这位八次大满贯得主
: 的秘密，书中阿加西还提到了网球，其中包括昔日赛场一起征战的对手，还有一些特别
: 的时刻，只是美国人的说法着实有些让人意外。
: 关于桑普拉斯：阿加西称桑普拉斯听上去比鹦鹉还呆，他还说：“我羡慕皮特的迟
: 钝，我希望也能像他一样缺乏灵感，并且可以像他一样根本不需要灵感。”这显然是在
: 讽刺，阿加西透露他曾经与昔日恩师吉尔伯特一起打赌，猜桑普拉斯会给泊车小弟多少
: 小费，后来他们在当事人那里得到的答案是一美元。提到桑普拉斯和自己，阿加西总结
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h*******e
发帖数: 1171 | 15 Why you are so mean?
【在 J****0 的大作中提到】
: 自作聪明的无胆鼠类。
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a*i
发帖数: 1652 | 16 Your point of view doesn't make sense.
The only criterion whether he should return the money is if he broke the
rule. he did.
For example, no professional would uses foot fault intentionally to serve
better. Now you get the idea.
Years ago I plotted a story. An old man has lots of money. The old man has a
son and a very close friend. His friend murdured his son so the old man
could only rely on this friend. This friend is so good to the old man that
the old man decides to give all his money to
【在 R*****n 的大作中提到】
: Whether he should return the money, from my point of view, depends on
: whether he gained benefit and perform better to win. i doubt it...
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 17 Your story does not support your argument. The old man's friend murdered old
man's son to get himself a chance to inherit the money. Otherwise, he has
no chance. This is exactly what RealFan's point.
To support your point, you should change the story to:
The old man has two sons, each one will get 50% of the money. One son
confessed to the dieing father that he used Heroin or so on for pleasure or
whatever (not to gain advantages in inheritance). Should the old man give
all his money to the othe
【在 a*i 的大作中提到】
: Your point of view doesn't make sense.
: The only criterion whether he should return the money is if he broke the
: rule. he did.
: For example, no professional would uses foot fault intentionally to serve
: better. Now you get the idea.
: Years ago I plotted a story. An old man has lots of money. The old man has a
: son and a very close friend. His friend murdured his son so the old man
: could only rely on this friend. This friend is so good to the old man that
: the old man decides to give all his money to
|
R*****n
发帖数: 610 | 18 Agree on Agi, rules are rules, no matter what drug was used, although your
story has no similarity to Agassi's case.
However, the WADA has 8 year limitation. so it will up-to ATP for its own
decision. maybe some fine but hopefully, not the "Tennis Hall of Fame"...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2009-10-28-3128314706_x.htm |
a*i
发帖数: 1652 | 19 I used the story to discuss this:
is a liar considered an honest man if he confesses?
The story is not an exact analogy - actually no analogy is perfect. so just
get my point and don't be picky.
As to Agassi, my standpoint is clear. He broke the rule to get some prize
money, so he should return the money. So you think the foot fault rule
should be revisited?
As to your first story, the old man is the rule maker. Whatever decision he
makes is reasonable, because he can make rules any time. I didn
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: Your story does not support your argument. The old man's friend murdered old
: man's son to get himself a chance to inherit the money. Otherwise, he has
: no chance. This is exactly what RealFan's point.
: To support your point, you should change the story to:
: The old man has two sons, each one will get 50% of the money. One son
: confessed to the dieing father that he used Heroin or so on for pleasure or
: whatever (not to gain advantages in inheritance). Should the old man give
: all his money to the othe
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 20
I don't think anyone will think this man is a "good" man or should inherit
everything just because he confessed. But he is indeed more honest on this
matter than another murderer who never confessed.
In Agassi's case, he was a "bad boy" in his young ages anyway. What do you
expect from an "Open" bio ? A 活雷锋 under disguise ?
just
he
【在 a*i 的大作中提到】
: I used the story to discuss this:
: is a liar considered an honest man if he confesses?
: The story is not an exact analogy - actually no analogy is perfect. so just
: get my point and don't be picky.
: As to Agassi, my standpoint is clear. He broke the rule to get some prize
: money, so he should return the money. So you think the foot fault rule
: should be revisited?
: As to your first story, the old man is the rule maker. Whatever decision he
: makes is reasonable, because he can make rules any time. I didn
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