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K****D
发帖数: 30533
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1) Use thrift store rackets.
2) Fly in private Vintage 747 ($2 million). Sell tickets to 200
other passenger traveling the same route, at 39% price of the
lowest fare from popular airlines. (No 空姐/snacks provided.)
Slogan: "Unique vintage flying experience at affordable price!"
Everybody needs to sign a form giving up all rights in case of
accidents. (The pilot, pro and coach will have parachutes.)
3) Brings a coach, who sells iPad2 in bulk.
4) Live in Motel 8. (Optional: live in the 747.)
5) Eat fast food, or frozen dumplings.
6) Drives to tournaments as long as on the same continent.
7) Train in public parks.
Except for the initial 747 expense, can probably make a living
ranking #500! (At retirement, remember to sell the 747 for $2
million.)
w******n
发帖数: 13172
2
what's 747's annual cost? including crew, maintenance, fuel, airport fee...
K****D
发帖数: 30533
3
Updated 2). Now definitely profitable.
2) Fly in private Vintage 747 ($2 million). Sell tickets to 200
other passenger traveling the same route, at 39% price of the
lowest fare from popular airlines.

【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: what's 747's annual cost? including crew, maintenance, fuel, airport fee...
c****h
发帖数: 590
4
Read this article about life of a low-ranked pro.
Highlights:
1. Lives in scary cheap motels.
2. Guys cramming in floors of a shared room.
3. Carry your own stringing machine to save money.
4. Hewitt is soon going to end up there.
Long, hard road to the top in tennis
January 14, 2006
While the top-ranked players live in opulence, for others on the way up life
is darkened by cheap hotels, tortuous bus rides and cheap air fares. World
No. 144 Peter Luczak tells what it takes to make it to the professional
tennis circuit.
NO. 144 is not a stratospheric world ranking, but it does mean that Peter
Luczak qualifies for more comfortable digs when he dances around a tennis
court. It was not always so.
The life of a tennis journeyman is one darkened by cheap hotels, tortuous
bus rides and — if he hits the jackpot — a cheap air fare as he takes his
first, tentative steps on the pro circuit. Luczak remembers his first six
months on the satellite tennis circuit during a break from college in the
United States — where he had a tennis scholarship.
Small towns were a speciality and there was a bonus if you got a billet with
a local family. Redding, California; Joplin, Missouri; Waco, Texas. "Yes,
they have a tournament there," he says. "I think it was quite well run.
"You'd get a little bit scared when you'd come in at night to those towns,
though. The Greyhound bus stations always used to be in the ghetto area. I
remember one place called the Nash Hotel. It was a nightmare, pretty much
everyone in there was a drug addict."
Scoring a bed for the night could turn out to be as competitive as playing a
tennis match. "About five or six guys usually shared a room. At night we'd
do the rock, paper scissors to see who would get a bed.
"The rules were, if you won (the tennis) that day you qualified to play. If
you lost that day, you were automatically sleeping on the floor — you could
not even qualify for the rock, paper, scissors game."
Five years on, Luczak, who has a wildcard to play in the Australian Open
next week, is in more salubrious quarters. It's not five-star, but he is
renting a comfortable apartment in Richmond with his friend, Stephen Huss,
the doubles specialist who won an unlikely Wimbledon title last year.
At 26, Luczak has yet to win any titles. He achieved his best result in
February last year, reaching the semi-final in an Association of Tennis
Professionals (ATP) tour event in Brazil. For that he achieved a lofty
ranking of 110.
"That was great — I was on top of the world," Luczak says. "Every year, I'
ve slowly got better. At the end of 2003, I was 170. Then in 2004, I was
about 150. At the start I made bigger leaps. Now, I'm slightly improving my
rankings … My goal is to be in the top 100 this year."
Twenty-six. For many people, that's the age you are getting started.
Finished university, first serious job. More than a few of your peers are
probably still living at home — you are part of a famously postponed
generation.
At 26 on the tennis circuit, you are entering the mature phase of your
career. Almost an old man of tennis: make or break time. World No. 1 Roger
Federer is 25. Australian Lleyton Hewitt is 24. American Andy Roddick is 23.
"I am a late bloomer," says Luczak, who started out hitting nets down the
street in suburban Mulgrave, where he grew up.
Luczak's route was the familiar Aussie one: McDonald's Cup, the state junior
squad in his early teens … Then he flunked out. Dropped from the state
team before his mid-teens after a slump.
He was sustained, however, by supportive parents — the opposite of the
pushy, tennis-parent kind, he says. His parents, Eva and Kris, left Warsaw
in 1980 when he was nine months old. They were determined to give their
children every opportunity, even if that meant his mother had to work for a
time as cleaner in a city hotel and his father, an engineer, took a job as a
courier driver. "Dad was always driving me to tournaments and encouraging
me, but if I didn't want to play he was fine. Both my parents were pretty
sporty. My older sister and I were pretty competitive with each other, and
we'd go and play tennis after school."
An inner calm, perhaps modelled on his childhood tennis hero Mats Wilander,
also helped shape Luczak's attitudes to life and sport. Early failure was
not a setback. "I just loved the way Wilander played. He was always very
calm on the court. I just liked his attitude."
His Swedish partner, Katarina, is expecting their first child and he is
feeling buoyant as he approaches another Open campaign. It will be his sixth
go. In the last two attempts he did not get past the first round. In 2003,
he went as far as the third — a career highlight.
Last year, despite, his best-ever ranking, he did not progress much in the
US or French opens either. As a clay court specialist, he did not qualify
for Wimbledon. Grass remains anathema — but despite the tennis nay-sayers,
his age is not a problem.
"Age is almost irrelevant," Luczak says. "It's how you are feeling, how you
are enjoying it and how you are motivated. I know I am 26, but I still feel
like I am new and young and eager to get out there.
"I have a baby on the way, and I am really motivated now. I am working extra
hard in the gym and in the tennis court."
At 6-7, 7-6, 7-6 on Wednesday, it was universally acknowledged that Luczak
had fluffed it. He seemed poised to claim a quarter-final berth in the
Sydney International — indeed, there were two match points his way — but
he was vanquished by Igor Andreev, ranked 26th in the world.
He lacks the killer instinct, some of his critics — and even friends — say
. "A lot of guys say I'm too nice, 'you need to get a bit of aggro in you'."
Whether it's world rankings or scores at the end of hard-fought matches,
Luczak always inhabits a numbers game. He picks a mix of satellite and more
senior tournaments year-round to get the right calculus of earnings — to
make a living — and ATP points — to advance in the tennis rankings.
"It's a strategic game, you need to mix up challengers (lesser matches) and
ATP tournaments. In challengers there is less money but it's easier to win
points to inch up the rankings," he says.
"Right now I've got about 300 ATP points. Lleyton probably has about 3000 or
4000 and Federer has got about 5000 points."
Although he is a regular practice partner for Hewitt and played the Davis
Cup last year (another close loss), Luczak is a pragmatist. He does not cast
himself as a giant killer on the tennis circuit. He knows the depth of the
talent.
"You'd obviously love to be No. 1. Realistically, I don't see myself as No.
1.
"I'd say guys in the top 10 are in a class of their own — especially Roger
Federer and Lleyton. But between the ranking of 10 and 150, there can be
upsets."
With his wildcard, he will be looking for that upset now.
Back in January 2001, he was fighting for his tennis credentials at the
Australian Open qualifying round — his debut at a Grand Slam. "I remember I
started off well," recalls Luczak. "I won the first set, lost the second
one and it was starting to get dark — it was 9pm or 9.30pm but it was a
good atmosphere as I had a lot of friends and family there. I ended up
losing 8-6 in the third set."
It was the first taste of a big tournament. This time, he was not staying in
a cheap hotel but with his parents at the family home.
At the tennis, everything was a revelation, including the camaraderie of the
locker room."You could get free deodorants and shampoos. You could get free
drinks out of the fridge and you could get massages and there were cars
picking you up, dropping you to and from the courts.
"My parents were driving me in. People were telling me 'why are you driving
in, you can get a lift'. I don't think I found that out until after I lost.
But I learnt quite quickly after that."
The next year, after deferring his studies in finance (there are still two
semesters to go before he gets a degree), there was a summons to be a
practice partner for the David Cup round played in Argentina.
"The first day I go there, we went to this expensive restaurant and Davis
Cup captain John Fitzgerald said: 'Have whatever you want.' I was ordering
the cheapest thing on the menu, though. I didn't realise at the end of the
night they pay for it. After that, I was getting the steaks."
To date, Luczak's career earnings are $US250,000 ($A333,000). It's not
enough to have the mansions and expensive sports cars his friend Lleyton
commands, but it's enough for steak dinners, decent digs and the general
expenses of life on the circuit. For the past two years, Luczak has also
employed a personal coach, although that relationship recently ended
amicably. He also has sponsors who help him out by providing tennis attire
— he goes through a pair of shoes a week — and equipment.
While his family and friends will come to cheer him next week, there are no
tennis groupies who will flock to his court. "Guys around my ranking wouldn'
t see too many groupies," laughs Luczak. "I think in Japan there was one
lady who was a bit keen on me. When I was catching the bus to the airport,
she was trying to give me a box of chocolates."

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 1) Use thrift store rackets.
: 2) Fly in private Vintage 747 ($2 million). Sell tickets to 200
: other passenger traveling the same route, at 39% price of the
: lowest fare from popular airlines. (No 空姐/snacks provided.)
: Slogan: "Unique vintage flying experience at affordable price!"
: Everybody needs to sign a form giving up all rights in case of
: accidents. (The pilot, pro and coach will have parachutes.)
: 3) Brings a coach, who sells iPad2 in bulk.
: 4) Live in Motel 8. (Optional: live in the 747.)
: 5) Eat fast food, or frozen dumplings.

d*g
发帖数: 16592
5
唉,我的coach之一就是这样的,turn pro三年了,打了7个tournament,
现在排名将近500,最高排名370多。
就在public park训练,教练是她husband,who is not a tennis player at all。
当年UF第一单打,最辉煌赛季作为第一单打17胜3负。
好在有两个可爱的孩子了。
t****i
发帖数: 4225
6
单反mm的世界最高排名曾到过380多,不过是很久之前的事情了,呵呵。

【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 唉,我的coach之一就是这样的,turn pro三年了,打了7个tournament,
: 现在排名将近500,最高排名370多。
: 就在public park训练,教练是她husband,who is not a tennis player at all。
: 当年UF第一单打,最辉煌赛季作为第一单打17胜3负。
: 好在有两个可爱的孩子了。

d*g
发帖数: 16592
7
BSO啊,
我要交钱和370多名的pro练,
你有380多名的前pro player倒贴。
帅哥就是吃香。

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 单反mm的世界最高排名曾到过380多,不过是很久之前的事情了,呵呵。
f*****n
发帖数: 18176
8
如果你是他,你肯定就从啦单反mm,你就想要个pro LD!

【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: BSO啊,
: 我要交钱和370多名的pro练,
: 你有380多名的前pro player倒贴。
: 帅哥就是吃香。

d****y
发帖数: 1671
9
过去几年美国,女子,单反选手排名380多的应该不多吧,呵呵,这下会有人有事情干了

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 单反mm的世界最高排名曾到过380多,不过是很久之前的事情了,呵呵。
f*****n
发帖数: 18176
10
hehe.你的脑子转的太快。
把她人肉出来吧,要有照片哦,孢子都归你。

干了

【在 d****y 的大作中提到】
: 过去几年美国,女子,单反选手排名380多的应该不多吧,呵呵,这下会有人有事情干了
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b*e
发帖数: 3845
11
You're so lucky. In my place, I couldn't even find any 4.5 who is willing to
hit with me.

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 单反mm的世界最高排名曾到过380多,不过是很久之前的事情了,呵呵。
m*****r
发帖数: 3822
12
我觉得在欧洲打tournaments还是可以的,做火车即可。

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 1) Use thrift store rackets.
: 2) Fly in private Vintage 747 ($2 million). Sell tickets to 200
: other passenger traveling the same route, at 39% price of the
: lowest fare from popular airlines. (No 空姐/snacks provided.)
: Slogan: "Unique vintage flying experience at affordable price!"
: Everybody needs to sign a form giving up all rights in case of
: accidents. (The pilot, pro and coach will have parachutes.)
: 3) Brings a coach, who sells iPad2 in bulk.
: 4) Live in Motel 8. (Optional: live in the 747.)
: 5) Eat fast food, or frozen dumplings.

t****i
发帖数: 4225
13
她现在的水平下降了太多了,你要是跟她打,你都不会觉得她以前打的多好。不过,跟
我打还是绰绰有余了,按她的话说是她打网球打够了,现在只要能出出汗,起到运动的
效果就好了。

to

【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: You're so lucky. In my place, I couldn't even find any 4.5 who is willing to
: hit with me.

t****i
发帖数: 4225
14
ft,这么无聊的事情你也想去做,还不如花点心思在youtube上找几个好的录像帮助提
高网球实在。

【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: hehe.你的脑子转的太快。
: 把她人肉出来吧,要有照片哦,孢子都归你。
:
: 干了

f*****n
发帖数: 18176
15
生气了?
youtube上的已经看过10遍了。
正手看来看去,最好的是这个,推荐给你吧,你肯定看过。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X37qJfKoPVc

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: ft,这么无聊的事情你也想去做,还不如花点心思在youtube上找几个好的录像帮助提
: 高网球实在。

t****i
发帖数: 4225
16
哈哈,干嘛要生气。这个video里的教练还是很不错的,以前看过他的一些video。

【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: 生气了?
: youtube上的已经看过10遍了。
: 正手看来看去,最好的是这个,推荐给你吧,你肯定看过。
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X37qJfKoPVc

s*****k
发帖数: 1630
17
一旦WS, 就永远WS,貌似MM或者OCD.
t*****i
发帖数: 2249
18
真是让人嫉妒啊,hitting parnter竟然是排名300多的前pro
她要搁偶们这儿,肯定至少60$/小时

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 单反mm的世界最高排名曾到过380多,不过是很久之前的事情了,呵呵。
w******n
发帖数: 13172
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偶觉得tenfei可以做单反MM在网版的经纪人。每小时$60陪练/教练,tenfei提成$10。
偶作为主要商业策划,提成$5+免费被陪练

【在 t*****i 的大作中提到】
: 真是让人嫉妒啊,hitting parnter竟然是排名300多的前pro
: 她要搁偶们这儿,肯定至少60$/小时

f*****n
发帖数: 18176
20
tenfei提成10? 直接做LD不更好?

【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: 偶觉得tenfei可以做单反MM在网版的经纪人。每小时$60陪练/教练,tenfei提成$10。
: 偶作为主要商业策划,提成$5+免费被陪练

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d*g
发帖数: 16592
21
借机问下,我教练turn pro后,才打过7个tournament,没钱啊,
只能打本土的challenger,好像进过一次final。
现在28岁,你说中国有没有小的运动企业愿意赞助她呢?
要是有可能,我愿意帮她联系一下,我觉得她还是挺有实力的。
毕竟UF两年的女单一号。UF女网应该NCAA Div I的前几吧。
Senior 赛季17-3的成绩。
K****D
发帖数: 30533
22
She is just a solid 6.0.
Barte from Stanford, ranking #5 in NCAA consistently, was beaten 0 and 1
in WTA 250 event first round.

【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 借机问下,我教练turn pro后,才打过7个tournament,没钱啊,
: 只能打本土的challenger,好像进过一次final。
: 现在28岁,你说中国有没有小的运动企业愿意赞助她呢?
: 要是有可能,我愿意帮她联系一下,我觉得她还是挺有实力的。
: 毕竟UF两年的女单一号。UF女网应该NCAA Div I的前几吧。
: Senior 赛季17-3的成绩。

d*g
发帖数: 16592
23
可是我看她挺可惜的。。。
另外Barte不能说没有potential吧?多打是不是就可以上来一些?

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: She is just a solid 6.0.
: Barte from Stanford, ranking #5 in NCAA consistently, was beaten 0 and 1
: in WTA 250 event first round.

B******a
发帖数: 601
24
Graduate from college means she is about 22+, how much "potential" she has?
My answer is close to zero.

【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 可是我看她挺可惜的。。。
: 另外Barte不能说没有potential吧?多打是不是就可以上来一些?

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