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Tennis版 - 黑导 play in “Slow motion” = You have more time than you
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m****z
发帖数: 978
1
"There are more time than you think."
I have heard this line from different people, but I never understand what
the heck it really means.
My vague understandings are:
A. There are more time than you think before the first bounce and second
bounce.
B. There are more time than you think between your current shot and next
shot.
C. If you prepare early, you have more time.
I replayed 黑导 NJ video many times. There is always something “odd” or
different about his strokes, actually timing of his strokes. It seems he
has way more time than most people. His swing, especially back swing, seems
in slow motion (not his feet). Do any of you feel that or is it just me?
He seems have a clear pause or “time” between most of his initial back
swings and forward swings. I know he waits for the ball instead of time the
ball. But where the heck did he get the extra time to wait the ball that
rest of us don’t have?
Before today, I thought he has quick feet and prepare early to gain time.
He does that, but I think there is something else, too. Today, I replayed
his videos again for the N’s time. I started to count between the ball
bounce and when he makes contact. 90% of the time, I can count “1… 2…
and 3…”. And he is playing really good player in a match! When I do the
same thing for my practice video against a weaker partner, most of time, I
can only count “1… and 2…” Some time, I cannot even count the 2, and
that is where I make most of the errors!!! I seem to be always hurried for
no good reasons. Actually, I do have reasons, “I am taking time away from
my opponent”! But the reality seems I am taking time away from my own
swing.
I hit a few ball with a weak 3.0 female out of shape Indian lady last week,
when I was watching my boys practice and she was waiting for her class to
start. I tried to return every ball gently as close as to the T as I can.
I made very few errors. Now I think back, I defiantly could count “1.. 2…
3…”, that day.
Could we talk about this “”You have more time than you think” and 黑导
Slow motion back swing?
b*e
发帖数: 3845
2
I recently hit with a lefty who hit a big flat deep forehand. The ball just
skids forward after bounce. I stayed not far from baseline and still have
enough time to hit back with my forehand without being late.
The rule of thumb is FINISH YOUR BACKSWING BEFORE OR AT THE TIME OF BOUNCE.
This is not just finish your UNIT TURN. It's both UNIT TURN and BACKSWING.
Milliseconds after ball bounce, you should be already in the process of
forward swing.
Most mistake from people is that they look, wait, think they have enough
time, and start backswing after the ball bounce, and find out they are late/
or in an awkward contact point. That's why their forehand are late.

【在 m****z 的大作中提到】
: "There are more time than you think."
: I have heard this line from different people, but I never understand what
: the heck it really means.
: My vague understandings are:
: A. There are more time than you think before the first bounce and second
: bounce.
: B. There are more time than you think between your current shot and next
: shot.
: C. If you prepare early, you have more time.
: I replayed 黑导 NJ video many times. There is always something “odd” or

m****z
发帖数: 978
3
That is great that you can FIRST stay not far from base line AND have enough
time especially against big hitter. I think that is Agassi method. Gain
time by prepare early. And take away time from the other guy by staying
close to baseline.
黑道 gain time in two ways. He not only prepare early, but also seem to let
the ball come to him a little more (1.. 2.. 3..) Maybe more Spanish style.
I seem to rush myself in two way. One, preparation is still late and I hit
too early (1..2..) aside from the preparation.
I totally agree on early preparation and back swing and I am working on it
this year. I think my problem is that when I prepare early I started to hit
a tad too early. Maybe the old timing is hard too break.
I will continue to work on early preparation like you listed out. Since my
timing is no where close to your level. I think I will let the ball come to
me a little more. (1... 2... 3...). I think this could be a easy fix to
gain time, at least easier than early preparation, which requires good
anticipation, foot work.
Goal 1: Gain time by let the ball come to me a little more, maybe stepping
back a little.
Goal 2: early preparation to gain even more time.
Goal 3: Step back on base time, like what you are doing and still have
enough time.

just
.
late/

【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: I recently hit with a lefty who hit a big flat deep forehand. The ball just
: skids forward after bounce. I stayed not far from baseline and still have
: enough time to hit back with my forehand without being late.
: The rule of thumb is FINISH YOUR BACKSWING BEFORE OR AT THE TIME OF BOUNCE.
: This is not just finish your UNIT TURN. It's both UNIT TURN and BACKSWING.
: Milliseconds after ball bounce, you should be already in the process of
: forward swing.
: Most mistake from people is that they look, wait, think they have enough
: time, and start backswing after the ball bounce, and find out they are late/
: or in an awkward contact point. That's why their forehand are late.

K****D
发帖数: 30533
4
这个原理非常简单。你和比你低0.5的人打,立刻会觉得有满世界的时间。
黑导和5.0打,立刻觉得没时间了。
一切都是相对,并且没有workaround. I.e., 你遇到比你高0.5的,无论你怎么努力,
也是没有时间。

second
next

【在 m****z 的大作中提到】
: "There are more time than you think."
: I have heard this line from different people, but I never understand what
: the heck it really means.
: My vague understandings are:
: A. There are more time than you think before the first bounce and second
: bounce.
: B. There are more time than you think between your current shot and next
: shot.
: C. If you prepare early, you have more time.
: I replayed 黑导 NJ video many times. There is always something “odd” or

m****z
发帖数: 978
5
Best Tennis tip: Find a weaker partner in signal and find a stronger
partner in double! haha!

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 这个原理非常简单。你和比你低0.5的人打,立刻会觉得有满世界的时间。
: 黑导和5.0打,立刻觉得没时间了。
: 一切都是相对,并且没有workaround. I.e., 你遇到比你高0.5的,无论你怎么努力,
: 也是没有时间。
:
: second
: next

K****D
发帖数: 30533
6
Early preparation也有坏处。偶从1.5开始就一直是早准备派,对此深有体会。
坏处就是一旦你发现球的落点或者旋转和你的判断有差异的时候,就没办法调整步子
了。这个时候需要靠手感随机应变,比如临时决定lob, block, half volley, slice
等等。否则就是失误。对付junk baller这种情况很多。
总体来说早准备是建立在footwork基础上的。

enough
let
.
hit
hit

【在 m****z 的大作中提到】
: That is great that you can FIRST stay not far from base line AND have enough
: time especially against big hitter. I think that is Agassi method. Gain
: time by prepare early. And take away time from the other guy by staying
: close to baseline.
: 黑道 gain time in two ways. He not only prepare early, but also seem to let
: the ball come to him a little more (1.. 2.. 3..) Maybe more Spanish style.
: I seem to rush myself in two way. One, preparation is still late and I hit
: too early (1..2..) aside from the preparation.
: I totally agree on early preparation and back swing and I am working on it
: this year. I think my problem is that when I prepare early I started to hit

b*e
发帖数: 3845
7
A). I may only count 1-2 (if I count 1-2-3, I'm late). To me there is just
backswing and forward swing. (everything else such as unit turn is
incorporated within backswing or forward swing)
B) "let the ball come to him a little more" is only used for topspin
incoming shot, and you want to topspin it back. If the incoming ball is flat
, or you want to hit on the rise, in most cases you don't have luxury to let
the ball come to you a little more.

let : the ball come to him a little more (1.. 2.. 3..) Maybe more Spanish
style.

【在 m****z 的大作中提到】
: Best Tennis tip: Find a weaker partner in signal and find a stronger
: partner in double! haha!

m****z
发帖数: 978
8
I feel the same. Especially, when I thought Early preparation = Early back
swing. It is very hard to run and adjust when the racquet already point to
the back fence. Even you do, you lost the feel of the location of racquet.
I think the shoulder turn should be early. I can still make adjustment steps
with my racquet on my side and pointing up (Set racquet). Then, when I
think I am all set, then do a continue back swing and forward swing to trace
the letter C.
Once again, 黑导,does this so well. You can see he point his racquet up
and pause there to wait the ball. He is not point his racquet to the back
fence then wait for the ball.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Early preparation也有坏处。偶从1.5开始就一直是早准备派,对此深有体会。
: 坏处就是一旦你发现球的落点或者旋转和你的判断有差异的时候,就没办法调整步子
: 了。这个时候需要靠手感随机应变,比如临时决定lob, block, half volley, slice
: 等等。否则就是失误。对付junk baller这种情况很多。
: 总体来说早准备是建立在footwork基础上的。
:
: enough
: let
: .
: hit

m****z
发帖数: 978
9
Did you count 黑导 swing? Do you or anyone else feel he plays in slow motion
and has tons of time?

just
flat
let

【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: A). I may only count 1-2 (if I count 1-2-3, I'm late). To me there is just
: backswing and forward swing. (everything else such as unit turn is
: incorporated within backswing or forward swing)
: B) "let the ball come to him a little more" is only used for topspin
: incoming shot, and you want to topspin it back. If the incoming ball is flat
: , or you want to hit on the rise, in most cases you don't have luxury to let
: the ball come to you a little more.
:
: let : the ball come to him a little more (1.. 2.. 3..) Maybe more Spanish
: style.

m****z
发帖数: 978
10
His Serve motion seems to be in Slow motion as well. So relaxed and have
tons of time. I fxxing rush my own serves, too.
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m****z
发帖数: 978
11
Picture worth a thousand words, video probably worth even more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re6rDiYr1PQ
K****D
发帖数: 30533
12
Yes, racket should point up. I did that as a 1.5.
问题是这个解决不了问题。最难办的就是你打了个好球冲上去举着拍子准备finish
short ball的时候,对方junk baller出色的防守了一下,一个深球嗖得朝你飞过来。
这种球基本上没辙了,只能靠手感搞过去。
相反情况也有,你呆在底线端着拍子等,对方dropshot了。端着拍子跑肯定不如
拖着拍子跑快。

back
.
steps
trace

【在 m****z 的大作中提到】
: I feel the same. Especially, when I thought Early preparation = Early back
: swing. It is very hard to run and adjust when the racquet already point to
: the back fence. Even you do, you lost the feel of the location of racquet.
: I think the shoulder turn should be early. I can still make adjustment steps
: with my racquet on my side and pointing up (Set racquet). Then, when I
: think I am all set, then do a continue back swing and forward swing to trace
: the letter C.
: Once again, 黑导,does this so well. You can see he point his racquet up
: and pause there to wait the ball. He is not point his racquet to the back
: fence then wait for the ball.

m****z
发帖数: 978
13
I think it should be this. Key word is should be. I am no where close to
this.
1. Split Step (do that in practice, when I am not tired)
2. Upon landing, should know forehand or back hand. Turn.
3. Step to the ball.
4. in the general area, set the racquet (poining up)
5. fine tune by adjustment steps if needed, with the racquet on the side
point up.
6. Finish Back swing and hit.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Yes, racket should point up. I did that as a 1.5.
: 问题是这个解决不了问题。最难办的就是你打了个好球冲上去举着拍子准备finish
: short ball的时候,对方junk baller出色的防守了一下,一个深球嗖得朝你飞过来。
: 这种球基本上没辙了,只能靠手感搞过去。
: 相反情况也有,你呆在底线端着拍子等,对方dropshot了。端着拍子跑肯定不如
: 拖着拍子跑快。
:
: back
: .
: steps

K****D
发帖数: 30533
14
My impression was that early prepration wasn't your main problem. You were
already doing OK in that aspect. It's above average at your level on this
board.
Again, early prepration means you will need to develop hand touch and
hit-on-rise capability. You need to make no error in awkward positions.
You will meet those situations a lot against pushers once you select
the early prepration path.

【在 m****z 的大作中提到】
: I think it should be this. Key word is should be. I am no where close to
: this.
: 1. Split Step (do that in practice, when I am not tired)
: 2. Upon landing, should know forehand or back hand. Turn.
: 3. Step to the ball.
: 4. in the general area, set the racquet (poining up)
: 5. fine tune by adjustment steps if needed, with the racquet on the side
: point up.
: 6. Finish Back swing and hit.

m****z
发帖数: 978
15
Since we are on the timing subject.
Do you hit on the rise and more importantly when do you hit on the rise?
I hit on the rise, too. But most of time, I hit on the rise, when the other
guy hit a deep ball to me, I am on defense, and too lazy to step back, then
I "hit on the rise". I think that is NOT hit on the rise and that is the
worst time to hit on the rise. I think I should take one more step back to
buy myself some time and hit the ball cleanly back with height to buy more
time to recover, since I am on defense.
The Agassi hit on the rise, is when he is in total control and want to
further take away time from the other dude to step in and hit on the rise.
Not got surprised by deep ball and had to hit on the rise.
But I am so lazy, and not very good at stepping back then forward. So I
think with my shitty footwork I should stopping park on the baseline and
think I am hitting on the rise. I am better to stay 2-3 feet behind
baseline and hit from there, so I don't have to either step back or return a
deep ball on the rise. When the other guy do hit a short ball, then I step
in and hit.
m****z
发帖数: 978
16
Totally agree. I used to think my main problem is early preparation. Now,
I think my main problem is I am too rushed, swing is not relaxed and don't
hit the ball cleanly. I think with my shitty footwork and 210 pound weight,
I need stop parking on the baseline hit most of the shots on the rise. I
need to stay couple feet behind baseline to rally most the ball cleanly
first. Once there is a short ball, then step in.
I need to understand DNA. Defense, Neutral, and Attack. Position myself
accordingly. Instead of stand on baseline all day long, and think I am
Agassi. Once again, I am just lazy. Is there a cure for laziness?


【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: My impression was that early prepration wasn't your main problem. You were
: already doing OK in that aspect. It's above average at your level on this
: board.
: Again, early prepration means you will need to develop hand touch and
: hit-on-rise capability. You need to make no error in awkward positions.
: You will meet those situations a lot against pushers once you select
: the early prepration path.

K****D
发帖数: 30533
17
Hit on rise的目的主要是降低junk ball的不确定性的影响。你等junk ball跳起来后,
位置可能就完全不可预料了。
Early prepration和hit on rise基本上是同时进行时。Early prepration了,就代表
你提前到位了,击球追求的是顿一下的感觉。这个时候最致命的就是被junk ball搞得
失去重心。顿一下后stretch着打。You can't afford it.
当然,对手是hard hitter的时候没有这个问题,你会很舒服。
你所说的步伐不到位的情况是普遍问题,通用与early prepration与否。大家都知道
最佳方案是步法到位。做得到做不到就未知了。

other
then
to


【在 m****z 的大作中提到】
: Since we are on the timing subject.
: Do you hit on the rise and more importantly when do you hit on the rise?
: I hit on the rise, too. But most of time, I hit on the rise, when the other
: guy hit a deep ball to me, I am on defense, and too lazy to step back, then
: I "hit on the rise". I think that is NOT hit on the rise and that is the
: worst time to hit on the rise. I think I should take one more step back to
: buy myself some time and hit the ball cleanly back with height to buy more
: time to recover, since I am on defense.
: The Agassi hit on the rise, is when he is in total control and want to
: further take away time from the other dude to step in and hit on the rise.

m****z
发帖数: 978
18
"这个时候最致命的就是被junk ball搞得: 失去重心。顿一下后stretch着打。You can
't afford it."
一针见血,最近经常遇到。
I am on offense, hit a good ball to the corner. Then the other dude junk it
back.
1. I am too chicken to charge the net after hit a good offensive ball to the
corner. I see many of you guys do that. so that option is off the table
for me for now.
2. Let the junk bounce, I tend to return a shoulder height ball while
falling backward, I tend to hit that ball short. Before I know it, the
other guy step into the court and go on offense or even volley!
3. Hit the junk ball on the rise, I tend to make mistakes.

后,

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Hit on rise的目的主要是降低junk ball的不确定性的影响。你等junk ball跳起来后,
: 位置可能就完全不可预料了。
: Early prepration和hit on rise基本上是同时进行时。Early prepration了,就代表
: 你提前到位了,击球追求的是顿一下的感觉。这个时候最致命的就是被junk ball搞得
: 失去重心。顿一下后stretch着打。You can't afford it.
: 当然,对手是hard hitter的时候没有这个问题,你会很舒服。
: 你所说的步伐不到位的情况是普遍问题,通用与early prepration与否。大家都知道
: 最佳方案是步法到位。做得到做不到就未知了。
:
: other

b*********s
发帖数: 6757
19
lol thanks for your kind words. I actually still trying to clean up some of
my glitch in my preparation... (trying to make more time ^_^)
My take on "you have more time than you think" is, in a neutral rally, once
you know if it's to your FH or BH, you should initiate the shoulder/hip turn
and racquet take back. Most WSN has a tendency of gauge where the ball will
land first then start the preparation. You can gauge the ball while turn
your shoulder/hip take the racquet back a the same time. Some ppl may argue
if you take the racquet back, you won't be able to move to the ball as fast.
This is where "you have more time than you think" comes in. Most of time
you do have the time, you don't need to rush to the ball. More often than
not, I see WSN over run the ball get jammed, or get to the ball but not
ready to hit...
One key element is "hold". Basically, you get your preparation setup, you'
ll need to be able to hold that setup (upper body, feet should still be
moving or adjusting). Often ppl setup the prepare, and initial their swing
quickly, this is more evident on floating sitters, aggressor often end up
swing too early, this is result of not able to hold the prep. I find to be
able to "hold" is very important, and it has a lot to do with mental. If you
are tight, and nervous, it's harder to hold. Another example of not able to
hold is you get your racquet up, as you are moving, your racquet drops a
little and pauses there, then swing (I do this sometimes, need to correct it
). In this case you don't get the proper racquet drop, you'll lose some
racquet head speed,
often you'll end up muscle the ball a little,
One issue with my prep is although I do take the racquet back early, but I
don't take it to the proper spot in one take back. I take it say 90~95%,
then I actually slow down on the last 5~10%.... in this case I'm still time
the ball a little. I can get away with it with most 4.5s, or even some 5.0s.
But when I get tight, or when play against solid 5.0s, this glitch become a
lot more evident.

second
next

【在 m****z 的大作中提到】
: "There are more time than you think."
: I have heard this line from different people, but I never understand what
: the heck it really means.
: My vague understandings are:
: A. There are more time than you think before the first bounce and second
: bounce.
: B. There are more time than you think between your current shot and next
: shot.
: C. If you prepare early, you have more time.
: I replayed 黑导 NJ video many times. There is always something “odd” or

b*********s
发帖数: 6757
20
nah, you underestimate me lol. Some solid 5.0s can rush me a little. Most of
time, i don't have issue rally with 5.0s, or at least against the 5.0s I
hit with. When I do get rushed, it's because a glitch in my take back, if I
remember to correct that, I don't feel rushed neither.
Here, the rush LZ is talking about is more of rush through the stroke.
Against higher level, one will get rushed because the incoming ball lands
deeper, have better angle, more pace/spin. If you have good early prep,
this will just take some time to get adjust to, not a huge issue.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 这个原理非常简单。你和比你低0.5的人打,立刻会觉得有满世界的时间。
: 黑导和5.0打,立刻觉得没时间了。
: 一切都是相对,并且没有workaround. I.e., 你遇到比你高0.5的,无论你怎么努力,
: 也是没有时间。
:
: second
: next

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b*********s
发帖数: 6757
21
couple things, early preparation does not mean you freeze you feet. You
should still be consistently adjust your position with your feet. So I
disagree with "办法调整步子". Most time, this type of issue is not because
of early preparation, it's more about you being nervous, get tight, thinking
about hitting winners. If you treat it just like another shot, I do not
think this will be an issue.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Early preparation也有坏处。偶从1.5开始就一直是早准备派,对此深有体会。
: 坏处就是一旦你发现球的落点或者旋转和你的判断有差异的时候,就没办法调整步子
: 了。这个时候需要靠手感随机应变,比如临时决定lob, block, half volley, slice
: 等等。否则就是失误。对付junk baller这种情况很多。
: 总体来说早准备是建立在footwork基础上的。
:
: enough
: let
: .
: hit

K****D
发帖数: 30533
22
调整步子不是问题,问题在于你无法再享受顿一下再打的节奏了。你的节奏被打乱了。
偶这种情况经常为了继续顿,就stretch着够球打。

thinking

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: couple things, early preparation does not mean you freeze you feet. You
: should still be consistently adjust your position with your feet. So I
: disagree with "办法调整步子". Most time, this type of issue is not because
: of early preparation, it's more about you being nervous, get tight, thinking
: about hitting winners. If you treat it just like another shot, I do not
: think this will be an issue.

b*********s
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This is what i mention earlier on a different post, here you rush in then
run backwards. You hit a nice offensive ball, you anticipate a weak return
or junk ball, but before opponent even hit the ball or before you have a
clear sense of where the ball will land, you step into the court. When
opponent's junk ball floats deep, you end up backing up and hit a defensive
shot. Basically you went from offense to defense without opponent doing
anything. This is one of my biggest problem as well.... The right thing to
do, you hit a good shot, you step toward the baseline, and be ready to
either move in further or back up a step. Or if you see the opponent get
stretched out, you rush straight forward more and look for volleys. Often
you get caught in no-man's land.... This is not because of early preparation
, it's more about court positioning and anticipation... or should I say over
anticipation o.O

back
.
steps
trace

【在 m****z 的大作中提到】
: I feel the same. Especially, when I thought Early preparation = Early back
: swing. It is very hard to run and adjust when the racquet already point to
: the back fence. Even you do, you lost the feel of the location of racquet.
: I think the shoulder turn should be early. I can still make adjustment steps
: with my racquet on my side and pointing up (Set racquet). Then, when I
: think I am all set, then do a continue back swing and forward swing to trace
: the letter C.
: Once again, 黑导,does this so well. You can see he point his racquet up
: and pause there to wait the ball. He is not point his racquet to the back
: fence then wait for the ball.

K****D
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Exactly the same problem as I described in another post. So it is indeed
a common problem with early preparation, :-)

defensive

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: This is what i mention earlier on a different post, here you rush in then
: run backwards. You hit a nice offensive ball, you anticipate a weak return
: or junk ball, but before opponent even hit the ball or before you have a
: clear sense of where the ball will land, you step into the court. When
: opponent's junk ball floats deep, you end up backing up and hit a defensive
: shot. Basically you went from offense to defense without opponent doing
: anything. This is one of my biggest problem as well.... The right thing to
: do, you hit a good shot, you step toward the baseline, and be ready to
: either move in further or back up a step. Or if you see the opponent get
: stretched out, you rush straight forward more and look for volleys. Often

b*********s
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if you hit a "good" shot, and opponent hit a perfect dropshot...then it's
either he got lucky or your "good" shot is not really that good...
If the opponent hit a good dropshot, sure it will be faster if you run
without taking the racquet back. But the the focus shouldn't be how to fast
you can run to get to the drop shot. The focus should be what did he do or
you not do allowed him to set up that perfect dropshot....

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Yes, racket should point up. I did that as a 1.5.
: 问题是这个解决不了问题。最难办的就是你打了个好球冲上去举着拍子准备finish
: short ball的时候,对方junk baller出色的防守了一下,一个深球嗖得朝你飞过来。
: 这种球基本上没辙了,只能靠手感搞过去。
: 相反情况也有,你呆在底线端着拍子等,对方dropshot了。端着拍子跑肯定不如
: 拖着拍子跑快。
:
: back
: .
: steps

b*********s
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not sure what you mean by "顿一下再打的节奏", at times, when moving forward,
you can actually run through the ball.... but the key here is still have
the early preparation....

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 调整步子不是问题,问题在于你无法再享受顿一下再打的节奏了。你的节奏被打乱了。
: 偶这种情况经常为了继续顿,就stretch着够球打。
:
: thinking

b*********s
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lol ok sure, you can count positioning as part of early preparation. I was
under the impression of we are talking about early racquet take back as
early preparation.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Exactly the same problem as I described in another post. So it is indeed
: a common problem with early preparation, :-)
:
: defensive

K****D
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偶喜欢那种停在某地不动(不仅仅是脚,包括身体),然后再发力的感觉。跑动中
的发力,偶做的很差。偶的early preparation, 全都是为了这个停顿。

forward,

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: not sure what you mean by "顿一下再打的节奏", at times, when moving forward,
: you can actually run through the ball.... but the key here is still have
: the early preparation....

b*********s
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ic ic... at times even with early prep, you won't have the time to have this
停顿。。。 often if you can have this 停顿,then you should be on
offensive. So early preparation for me is just to hit the ball clean.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 偶喜欢那种停在某地不动(不仅仅是脚,包括身体),然后再发力的感觉。跑动中
: 的发力,偶做的很差。偶的early preparation, 全都是为了这个停顿。
:
: forward,

K****D
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偶不行啊。正常rally都得顿,否则就只能junk ball了,比如lob什么的。

this

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: ic ic... at times even with early prep, you won't have the time to have this
: 停顿。。。 often if you can have this 停顿,then you should be on
: offensive. So early preparation for me is just to hit the ball clean.

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m****z
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. Hold.. I think that is where you get "
1..2..3.." on most of your shots. I don't hold, similar to what you
describe as "aggressor often end up swing too early", so I could only count
"1..2.."
I think your "Hold" is similar to this video, when the coach want to have
time between initial back swing and forward swing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re6rDiYr1PQ
I will work on my "hold".
I think the hold or make sure I have a hold will help me to stay in balance.
It will be hard to hold if I over run and falling over. In that case, I
was probably forced to hit early, since I subconsciously "know" I am out of
balance so either hit too early or totally miss the ball all together. Then
, I tell myself, I am not hitting too early, I am Agassi, I am hitting on
the rise?!

When I have time, I think it is mental thing like you said. I think hold
will relax my swing and ensue I have a full swing instead of a hurried swing
. Hopefully, that is a low hanging fruit, but I doubt it. Mental things
tend be even harder to correct.
Backhand:
I used to feel I have more time on my 2HBH, when I always just push the ball
with very small back swing. Now, I am changing to a full swing 2HBH, where
I try to point the butt of the racquet to the incoming ball than swing.
Now, I feel I have even less time on my BH than my FH. Gosh. Not easy. All
my BH timing are gone. Hopefully, I can find it back with early
preparation, so I can wait the ball and swing the BH. I seem can only wait
for the ball when I push my 2HBH over.
m****z
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Well said.
One of my usual partner is a crafty double player. Even I hit a good shot.
Maybe I should not say good shot instead of a ball with pace to the corner.
He can hit the ball on the rise and return the ball high and deep with
almost continental grip like hitting a half volley.
I think I am on offense, but he really defended it well. I am really back
in neutral, but I assumed I am still on offense, and not ready to backup a
step or too lazy and cocky to backup a step to further develop the advantage
. Instead I hit even harder and even closer to the lines/corners on the
rise, since I am not ready to backup, and since my last good shot did not
finish him, so I have to produce a even better shot from a very difficult
position and balance. In reality, it is really too much for me to handle.

defensive

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: This is what i mention earlier on a different post, here you rush in then
: run backwards. You hit a nice offensive ball, you anticipate a weak return
: or junk ball, but before opponent even hit the ball or before you have a
: clear sense of where the ball will land, you step into the court. When
: opponent's junk ball floats deep, you end up backing up and hit a defensive
: shot. Basically you went from offense to defense without opponent doing
: anything. This is one of my biggest problem as well.... The right thing to
: do, you hit a good shot, you step toward the baseline, and be ready to
: either move in further or back up a step. Or if you see the opponent get
: stretched out, you rush straight forward more and look for volleys. Often

b*********s
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maybe this "hold" is what KennyD's 停顿。。。
on the BH, what you are changing is right. i think the issue maybe that you
been pushing with your BH, thus your contact point is bit late (you can't
really push if contact is way in the front). So your brain has this contact
zone already registered. Now with full swing, and racquet butt point at the
ball, you need that flick, it is very difficult to flick with contact so
close to you, thus you feel you are late and jam all the time. Try some easy
drop feet yourself, or have a friend toss the ball to you, to get your
brain adjust to the new contact zone first...

"
count
balance.

【在 m****z 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for the detailed explanation. Hold.. I think that is where you get "
: 1..2..3.." on most of your shots. I don't hold, similar to what you
: describe as "aggressor often end up swing too early", so I could only count
: "1..2.."
: I think your "Hold" is similar to this video, when the coach want to have
: time between initial back swing and forward swing.
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re6rDiYr1PQ
: I will work on my "hold".
: I think the hold or make sure I have a hold will help me to stay in balance.
: It will be hard to hold if I over run and falling over. In that case, I

b*********s
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oh one more thing, yes, you play like Agassi without Agassi's million dollar
hands.... lol
m****z
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I approve this message. I was probably always hit it too late, so I ended
up have to push my BH. Then I get pretty darn good with Pushing BH,
actually get away from most of my current partners. Since I push, I don't
make many mistakes at all and can really control the shot. I used to love my
BH!
Now, I am changing to full swing BH similar to my FH. All the issues showed
up. I feel my old BH shoulder turn is very small. I used to push my BH
with almost open shoulder. It is almost impossible to swing BH with open
shoulder. Now, I am going back to basic and working on bigger and fuller
unit turns.
And, I feel I am always rushed in order to have full shoulder turn, and full
swing to align the butt cap to the incoming ball. More practice with slow
ball for sure.
Maybe I am changing too much too quick all together.
FH: wait for the ball or Hold.
BH: full shoulder turn and swing, instead of Push.
Serve: bigger left arm extension and to hold at trophy position.
Slice: higher take back.
even Feed: Changing to continental grip from regular semi-western.


you
contact
the
easy

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: maybe this "hold" is what KennyD's 停顿。。。
: on the BH, what you are changing is right. i think the issue maybe that you
: been pushing with your BH, thus your contact point is bit late (you can't
: really push if contact is way in the front). So your brain has this contact
: zone already registered. Now with full swing, and racquet butt point at the
: ball, you need that flick, it is very difficult to flick with contact so
: close to you, thus you feel you are late and jam all the time. Try some easy
: drop feet yourself, or have a friend toss the ball to you, to get your
: brain adjust to the new contact zone first...
:

m****z
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I could not even beat his wife.... in tennis. LOL.

dollar

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: oh one more thing, yes, you play like Agassi without Agassi's million dollar
: hands.... lol

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