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发帖数: 5870 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Olympics 讨论区 】
发信人: cashback (bing), 信区: Olympics
标 题: Nature这事很严重，必须有点行动
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 2 11:18:10 2012, 美东)
http://www.nature.com/news/why-great-olympic-feats-raise-suspic
Nature发这种垃圾，不仅是侮辱中国人，也是侮辱整个science community。
这个作者学了个MS学位，完全没有一丁点科学素养。
Ewen Callaway, Reporter, London
Ewen joined Nature in August 2010, after 2 years at New Scientist as Boston-
based biomedical reporter. He attended the science writing program at the
University of California, Santa Cruz and earned a masters degree in
microbiology at the University of Washington. He spends his free time
learning to bicycle on the left side of the road.
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大家应该发信给Nature Editor-in-Chief Philip Campbell (p********[email protected])
，让这个垃圾滚蛋。
还有这个Chief Online Editor，也应该一起滚蛋
Ananyo Bhattacharya, Chief Online Editor, London
Ananyo joined Nature in November 2008 as online news editor after stints as
deputy editor of Chemistry World and news editor at Research Fortnight. He
has a degree in physics and a PhD in protein crystallography. Ananyo was a
finalist in the online editor of the year category of the 2012 Online Media
Awards.
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发帖数: 18394 | | y****e
发帖数: 23939 | 3 下面有人反驳了，有理有据的，写得很好啊。
Zhenxi Zhang said:
I just want to add this: Phelps improved 4+ seconds in his 200 fly between
14-15 years old. Ian Thorpe also had a similar performance improvement. Ye
is now 16. She was 160 cm in height and now 170 cm. Human biology also play
a role – she gets stronger and bigger naturally. Yes she can make up 5
seconds (NOT 7 seconds in the article) in a 400 IM that has more room for
improvement, with good training she got in Australia.
In both the 400 IM and 200 IM finals, Ye were behind until freestyle. Well I
guess there is "drug" that just enhances freestyle, but not the backstroke,
breast, and fly. Does that make sense? Also, it is not professional to only
mention that 'her showing in the last 50 metres, which she swam faster than
US swimmer Ryan Lochte did when he won gold in the mena#8482;s 400 IM'.
The whole fact is that Ye is more than 23 second slower than Lochte in 400
IM. Plus, Freestyle isn't Lochte's best leg, but it is Shiwen's best leg.
Lochte had a huge lead on the field, and almost coasted to the finish. He
wasn't pressured by the field to go all out that last few meters.
And before we get into the fact there's no way a woman should be able to
come close to man's time for a final leg of 50m. May I present the following
she had a split of 29.27, which is ONLY 0.17s slower than Lochte final 50m.
This was after she swam for 1100m longer than Lochte!
I feel the author would probably not write such a piece if Ye is an American
or British. Neither country is clean from athletes caught by doping (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_performance-enhancing_drugs_in_the_Olympic_Games). Let's try not to use double standards on the great performance from countries other than US and European countries. | y****e
发帖数: 23939 | 4 不仅仅是中国人，老外也看不过去
John Bigman said:
What a shame to see Nature publishes this in which there are so many
mistakes in citing and analyzing data by the author (intentionally or not as
pointed out by Lai Jiang). It is just using science's name to express their
prejudice and discrimination (this UK-based journal and the author, editors
). What a bunch of losers! You lose my respect from today, Nature! |
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