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TexasHoldem版 - QQ lay down
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873
1
accidently play PL 400 in FTP.
one guy raised 14$ under the gun( 2/4 is blind) ,
I can only reraise to 31$ for the pot limitation. to my surprise, 3 guys
behind me call and there are 5 people in the pot.(150$)
flop is good J83 there is no flush draw.
3 guys checked to me I bet 84$, botton cold called, small blind checked
raise all in 250$ more!!
what can I do here, there is no obvious straight draw there , why he push if
he really have good hands?!, what can he has( since this is the first hand
i********r
发帖数: 1153
2
i wouldn't worry about the button here, and i go broke with this hand, pot
is massive, you can't fold QQ here.

if
hand
button

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: accidently play PL 400 in FTP.
: one guy raised 14$ under the gun( 2/4 is blind) ,
: I can only reraise to 31$ for the pot limitation. to my surprise, 3 guys
: behind me call and there are 5 people in the pot.(150$)
: flop is good J83 there is no flush draw.
: 3 guys checked to me I bet 84$, botton cold called, small blind checked
: raise all in 250$ more!!
: what can I do here, there is no obvious straight draw there , why he push if
: he really have good hands?!, what can he has( since this is the first hand

p*****l
发帖数: 399
3
How much you have left? If you are not pot committed and both SB and you
have deep stack, i'll tend to lay down this hand because you will face
another big bet on the turn. Button cold call should not be a problem, i
think you have him beat. If you are pot commited, then that's a no-brainer
call.

if
hand
button

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: accidently play PL 400 in FTP.
: one guy raised 14$ under the gun( 2/4 is blind) ,
: I can only reraise to 31$ for the pot limitation. to my surprise, 3 guys
: behind me call and there are 5 people in the pot.(150$)
: flop is good J83 there is no flush draw.
: 3 guys checked to me I bet 84$, botton cold called, small blind checked
: raise all in 250$ more!!
: what can I do here, there is no obvious straight draw there , why he push if
: he really have good hands?!, what can he has( since this is the first hand

p*****l
发帖数: 399
4
didn't notice you said SB is all in, then I'll call. 150+ 86*2 + 200 = 500+,
for a 500$ pot, you pay 150 or 160, it's 3:1 odds to you. I think you have
at least 25% chance to win here. Call.
He didn't reraise preflop, so it's unlikely he have KK,AA. The only logical
hands to have beat you is JJ, 88. I don't think 33 is very likely, since he
raised first in. Your half pot bet is a sign of weakness, so that can induce
him to go crazy with hands like AJ or bluff.

【在 p*****l 的大作中提到】
: How much you have left? If you are not pot committed and both SB and you
: have deep stack, i'll tend to lay down this hand because you will face
: another big bet on the turn. Button cold call should not be a problem, i
: think you have him beat. If you are pot commited, then that's a no-brainer
: call.
:
: if
: hand
: button

w***w
发帖数: 6301
5
If I were that guy, what I would expect you(melonli )to have?
You reraised pot limit preflop, and bet $84 on flop.I would expect you to at
least beat JJ( you were not afraid someone hit pair J on flop), so you
could have JJ,QQ,KK,AA.He went allin, at least he should be able to beat JJ
.Since you had QQ, he was likely to beat QQ too.
I would guess small chance he had AJ, more likely above QQ.
It still depends on player.
If he play loose, he could allin with AJ.
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
6
nod, i tend to fold here.

at
JJ

【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: If I were that guy, what I would expect you(melonli )to have?
: You reraised pot limit preflop, and bet $84 on flop.I would expect you to at
: least beat JJ( you were not afraid someone hit pair J on flop), so you
: could have JJ,QQ,KK,AA.He went allin, at least he should be able to beat JJ
: .Since you had QQ, he was likely to beat QQ too.
: I would guess small chance he had AJ, more likely above QQ.
: It still depends on player.
: If he play loose, he could allin with AJ.

l*******o
发帖数: 78
7
No brainer - fold.
The calculation of return ratio is nonsense, you cannot do the wishful
thinking on the oppo's strength. He has to be a maniac to bluff with 5
people in the pot.
A**U
发帖数: 1116
8
when UTG raised to $14, you can re-raise to $48 if it was pot limit.

if
hand
button

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: accidently play PL 400 in FTP.
: one guy raised 14$ under the gun( 2/4 is blind) ,
: I can only reraise to 31$ for the pot limitation. to my surprise, 3 guys
: behind me call and there are 5 people in the pot.(150$)
: flop is good J83 there is no flush draw.
: 3 guys checked to me I bet 84$, botton cold called, small blind checked
: raise all in 250$ more!!
: what can I do here, there is no obvious straight draw there , why he push if
: he really have good hands?!, what can he has( since this is the first hand

m*****i
发帖数: 1873
9
I have to call 300$ more for the pot which I only put 120$ around!
c****u
发帖数: 3277
10
You are a huge underdog against JJ, 88 33, and a favorate against AJ
or T9, so it seems a call if you don't know his style, cause
this all in raise can easily be made from a straight draw for some
aggressive players or from AJ, KJ by some maniacs which are
still very common in low stake games. Your QQ plays especially well
against a straight draws here actually cause you hold his outs.
Also, it's very possible that his all in move can be just based on
a pure bluff if he reads your half pot bet

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: accidently play PL 400 in FTP.
: one guy raised 14$ under the gun( 2/4 is blind) ,
: I can only reraise to 31$ for the pot limitation. to my surprise, 3 guys
: behind me call and there are 5 people in the pot.(150$)
: flop is good J83 there is no flush draw.
: 3 guys checked to me I bet 84$, botton cold called, small blind checked
: raise all in 250$ more!!
: what can I do here, there is no obvious straight draw there , why he push if
: he really have good hands?!, what can he has( since this is the first hand

m*****i
发帖数: 1873
11
I am not only afraid of the all in guy, but also afraid the guy cold called
on the button, that is very dangerous ,
m*****i
发帖数: 1873
12
if only one guy , I may think about call all in, but two guys , I instantly
fold my QQ.

if
hand
button

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: accidently play PL 400 in FTP.
: one guy raised 14$ under the gun( 2/4 is blind) ,
: I can only reraise to 31$ for the pot limitation. to my surprise, 3 guys
: behind me call and there are 5 people in the pot.(150$)
: flop is good J83 there is no flush draw.
: 3 guys checked to me I bet 84$, botton cold called, small blind checked
: raise all in 250$ more!!
: what can I do here, there is no obvious straight draw there , why he push if
: he really have good hands?!, what can he has( since this is the first hand

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