t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 1 拿到AA, 被人先3 bet, 再4bet,我flat call 先， 不信每次都能被人bad beat, flop donkey bet all in, 敌人忍不住还是call 了。
真实的思路： 我有AA， 旁边有人3bet, 如果是AK,那么big blinds基本也拿AA的可能为0。
Then:
1. 他如果KK/QQ, 并且稍微tight, 我5bet all in他可能fold, 如果我flat call, flop 只要没有Ace, 他必然all in, 我赢
2. 他如果4bet bluff，如果我5 bet,肯定fold了，如果我flat call,这种4 bet bluff的人应该是胆子贼大贼大的那种， flop 多半会c-bet, 一旦c-bet, 基本就pot committed, 我all in他多半call,我赢。
3. post-flop 如果被bad beat,就认了， 这年头， AA不被bad beat都不好意思发文章。 | p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 2 这个openclubface是个donk, 3bet very light
flop
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 拿到AA, 被人先3 bet, 再4bet,我flat call 先， 不信每次都能被人bad beat, flop donkey bet all in, 敌人忍不住还是call 了。
: 真实的思路： 我有AA， 旁边有人3bet, 如果是AK,那么big blinds基本也拿AA的可能为0。
: Then:
: 1. 他如果KK/QQ, 并且稍微tight, 我5bet all in他可能fold, 如果我flat call, flop 只要没有Ace, 他必然all in, 我赢
: 2. 他如果4bet bluff，如果我5 bet,肯定fold了，如果我flat call,这种4 bet bluff的人应该是胆子贼大贼大的那种， flop 多半会c-bet, 一旦c-bet, 基本就pot committed, 我all in他多半call,我赢。
: 3. post-flop 如果被bad beat,就认了， 这年头， AA不被bad beat都不好意思发文章。
| t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 3 有趣的是丫几天前 AA flat call 我的AK 3bet 赢了我一次，不过只有40bb, 这次算是
报仇了。
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 这个openclubface是个donk, 3bet very light
:
: flop
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 This is not catching bluff..There is no bluff from him. He is just raising light. you have half of your stack in the pot already
preflop.. no one is going anywhere after flop. and your goal is to make him put all the chips in the pot not try to scare him away which you almost did. | t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 5 I do think 4bet 37bb in a 4-way pot with TT is a bluffing.
light. you have half of your stack in the pot already
him put all the chips in the pot not try to scare him away which you almost
did.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: This is not catching bluff..There is no bluff from him. He is just raising light. you have half of your stack in the pot already
: preflop.. no one is going anywhere after flop. and your goal is to make him put all the chips in the pot not try to scare him away which you almost did.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 6 If you think he is bluffing then it is even worse to all in before him. Do
you ever catch bluff by all in before the bluffer to react? I would do that
with 27o to make him fold not with pocket As with that board when you are probably way ahead
. I think you are very confused with what you are trying to achieve here.
You either check raise all in here or half pot to make him commit and all in
turn. Just don't try to scare him away like you did. Preflop flat is great move.. but the all in aft | t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 7 这样说吧， 我觉得不是KK/AA而用37bb来4 bet 有4个人的pot， 都是bluff.
我flop all in是怕turn/river出现high cards把它吓走，或者把我吓住， turn/river出现任何一张J/Q/K， 我都不敢再all in, 因为JJ/QQ/KK在他的range里面， 如果turn/river出现Ace, 同样也是scare card, 他会fold， 我flop all in 装AK bluff,或者装small pocket pair装着赌他AK.
我的思路很明确， preflop flat call的时候就已经想好了。
Do
that
probably way ahead
in
great move.. but the all in after flop is completely opposite of what you
are trying to achieve.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: If you think he is bluffing then it is even worse to all in before him. Do
: you ever catch bluff by all in before the bluffer to react? I would do that
: with 27o to make him fold not with pocket As with that board when you are probably way ahead
: . I think you are very confused with what you are trying to achieve here.
: You either check raise all in here or half pot to make him commit and all in
: turn. Just don't try to scare him away like you did. Preflop flat is great move.. but the all in aft
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 if you play like this vs a bluffer (arguably), you are losing a lot of value
over time. but whatever floats your boat man. I would refer to Patrikcp's thread of AA hand for example of a true bluffer catcher...
river出现任何一张J/Q/K， 我都不敢再all in, 因为JJ/QQ/KK在他的range里面， 如
果turn/river出现Ace, 同样也是scare card, 他会fold， 我flop all in 装AK bluff
,或者装small pocket pair装着赌他AK.
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 这样说吧， 我觉得不是KK/AA而用37bb来4 bet 有4个人的pot， 都是bluff.
: 我flop all in是怕turn/river出现high cards把它吓走，或者把我吓住， turn/river出现任何一张J/Q/K， 我都不敢再all in, 因为JJ/QQ/KK在他的range里面， 如果turn/river出现Ace, 同样也是scare card, 他会fold， 我flop all in 装AK bluff,或者装small pocket pair装着赌他AK.
: 我的思路很明确， preflop flat call的时候就已经想好了。
:
: Do
: that
: probably way ahead
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: in
: great move.. but the all in after flop is completely opposite of what you
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