s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 1 There are plenty of Online Odds Calculators.
HOWEVER, I find none offer odds calculator, say, 55 VS AKo when one 5 is
stripped from the deck? Well I can set to the third player with 5To to
estimate. But
that is still not the best.
Anyone knows Online Odds Calculators which offers information conditional on
certain things(such as one/two cards are stripped from the deck)? | L****n
发帖数: 490 | 2 what's the use of it? How can you know if a 5 is stripped | s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 3 No, I surely do not know. But I shuold estimate.
Say, 9-handed. I have 55. I bet 3.5BB at MP and one 3X from BTN with AK.
What am I to do? I need odds.
I can estimate the possiblity that one 5 is dealt out already(based on
distribution). And the other guy have AK(or AQ, same). There is possibility
that one/more A/K is dealt out also.
With that information and THE ONLINE CALCULATOR WHICH CAN GIVE CONDITIONAL
ODDS, I would have better odds information. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 i don't know, but i guess the calculators should already take this into
account.
for example, when they say AA vs. 55 is about 80:20, do they assume both
remaining As and 5s are still live in the deck? or could it be as
complicated as if it's HU, 6-max, full ring (more likely A or 5 mucked by
someone)... or even more complex, in live games, burn cards...
in the end, if it's not the case or conditional odds do exist, i don't think
it'll change the whole 80:20 picture at all, in another word, you
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】
: No, I surely do not know. But I shuold estimate.
: Say, 9-handed. I have 55. I bet 3.5BB at MP and one 3X from BTN with AK.
: What am I to do? I need odds.
: I can estimate the possiblity that one 5 is dealt out already(based on
: distribution). And the other guy have AK(or AQ, same). There is possibility
: that one/more A/K is dealt out also.
: With that information and THE ONLINE CALCULATOR WHICH CAN GIVE CONDITIONAL
: ODDS, I would have better odds information.
| n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 5 看你们双方的钱数吧，deep可以call short<=20bb可以all in 。。
possibility
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】
: No, I surely do not know. But I shuold estimate.
: Say, 9-handed. I have 55. I bet 3.5BB at MP and one 3X from BTN with AK.
: What am I to do? I need odds.
: I can estimate the possiblity that one 5 is dealt out already(based on
: distribution). And the other guy have AK(or AQ, same). There is possibility
: that one/more A/K is dealt out also.
: With that information and THE ONLINE CALCULATOR WHICH CAN GIVE CONDITIONAL
: ODDS, I would have better odds information.
| s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 6 I am talking a general case. Not a hand.
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 看你们双方的钱数吧，deep可以call short<=20bb可以all in 。。
:
: possibility
| s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 7 I guess all the odds calculator is just simulation w/o any card stripped off
.
Or that is unconditional odds.
The conditional odds will be close and then it does not matter to know much
as CASH game. At tourney, it matters I believe. Because either 1 or 0 (
stripped
or not), that highly impact the outcome and your standing.
think
get
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i don't know, but i guess the calculators should already take this into
: account.
: for example, when they say AA vs. 55 is about 80:20, do they assume both
: remaining As and 5s are still live in the deck? or could it be as
: complicated as if it's HU, 6-max, full ring (more likely A or 5 mucked by
: someone)... or even more complex, in live games, burn cards...
: in the end, if it's not the case or conditional odds do exist, i don't think
: it'll change the whole 80:20 picture at all, in another word, you
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 how do you know which card is stripped? If it is no way to find out, then
just keep it unconditional. | n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 9 难道不是一样么
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】
: I am talking a general case. Not a hand.
| L****n
发帖数: 490 | 10 It's useful when you play two accounts in same tournament， then you know
what cards are stripped off. |
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