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TexasHoldem版 - 这NL100 还是比NL50 难打..
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W********m
发帖数: 7793
1
32k hand so far..2.5bb/100hand, 基本赢率只能在2bb-3bb/100hand 里徘徊.. 不过
感觉打得真有点累, 看来这NL200不好上啊...
goes, 你怎样? 感觉你比我打得凶多了...我就一super nit, weak tight.....
c**********o
发帖数: 213
2
32k hands花了多少小时达到?what's the hour rate?
g**s
发帖数: 1114
3
I only played about 10K hands in NL100. my winrate was about 8BB/100hand. two
days ago I had very very bad day and down 4 buy in, so I current winrate is
about 4BB/100hand.
I play more aggressive in higher level. I just feel I have to, otherwise
other aggressive players will keep pressure on you.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 32k hand so far..2.5bb/100hand, 基本赢率只能在2bb-3bb/100hand 里徘徊.. 不过
: 感觉打得真有点累, 看来这NL200不好上啊...
: goes, 你怎样? 感觉你比我打得凶多了...我就一super nit, weak tight.....

W********m
发帖数: 7793
4
话音刚落, 又回到2bb/100 hand 了...
我比NL50 凶一点点.. 3 bet squeeze 多了很多.. 效果还不错.
10k hand 有点少, 2-3个buy-in 一下就去2bb/100 hand 了..
我30k 这数据还变化很大...关键是我打的很累, 好象一不小心就会回0bb/100 hand 或更差, 最高我到过3.5bb/100hand 20k hand 左右, 不过一下就掉下来了..., 不象NL50比较轻松, 感觉赚钱很稳...
W********m
发帖数: 7793
5
600-800 hand per hour. 这可以自己算...

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: 32k hands花了多少小时达到?what's the hour rate?
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
6
请教练吧,呵呵。打到这个阶段,大漏洞可能不多了,但是可能固疾也很难意识到了。

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 32k hand so far..2.5bb/100hand, 基本赢率只能在2bb-3bb/100hand 里徘徊.. 不过
: 感觉打得真有点累, 看来这NL200不好上啊...
: goes, 你怎样? 感觉你比我打得凶多了...我就一super nit, weak tight.....

g**s
发帖数: 1114
7
I have same feeling. if you could not figure out what's wrong all by
yourself, then you have to pay someone to help you.

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 请教练吧,呵呵。打到这个阶段,大漏洞可能不多了,但是可能固疾也很难意识到了。
W********m
发帖数: 7793
8
Coaching is definitely a possibility. I also have cardrunner subscription
now(free by playing at ftp), i have watched 3 pieces of training video so far
. They are very helpful. But I just don't have the patience to watch more.
1 hour a piece is actually very long. I normally choose to just play to
improve. I might need to just step away from playing and watch all the video
there to improve...
my biggest leak i have noticed is c betting too much after flop and folding
to raise or check raise.
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
9
yeah, c-bet and get popped, one of my leaks too. i re-pop in some spots, but
it's 50:50, not really an EV+ situation.
if we follow dusty's advice, 80% of time playing, 20% learning, we should be
able to finish a lot of books/videos. it's a must for us to move up.
1 table rush = 4 regular tables, so if you're playing 2 tables or 8 regular,
you're about to hit the limit that a normal player can handle, also for the
stake (100NL).

far
.
video
folding
hud
so
but i really hate to check fold flop,

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Coaching is definitely a possibility. I also have cardrunner subscription
: now(free by playing at ftp), i have watched 3 pieces of training video so far
: . They are very helpful. But I just don't have the patience to watch more.
: 1 hour a piece is actually very long. I normally choose to just play to
: improve. I might need to just step away from playing and watch all the video
: there to improve...
: my biggest leak i have noticed is c betting too much after flop and folding
: to raise or check raise.

W********m
发帖数: 7793
10
Very good suggestion.
I am going to reduce the playing time and trying to get 1 video in at least
every other day. I have learned everything by playing the game itself mostly
all year going from NL10 to NL100. I have a feeling that I am getting close
to hitting the bottle neck. I can probably still win marginal profit or at least break even at NL100 or NL200, but i need more improvement to reach 3-5bb/100 hand profit consistently..
Coaching is still too expensive for me. I will start with the t

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: yeah, c-bet and get popped, one of my leaks too. i re-pop in some spots, but
: it's 50:50, not really an EV+ situation.
: if we follow dusty's advice, 80% of time playing, 20% learning, we should be
: able to finish a lot of books/videos. it's a must for us to move up.
: 1 table rush = 4 regular tables, so if you're playing 2 tables or 8 regular,
: you're about to hit the limit that a normal player can handle, also for the
: stake (100NL).
:
: far
: .

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g**s
发帖数: 1114
11
what's the video name you think it is the best? Any rush game video?

least
mostly
close
at least break even at NL100 or NL200, but i need more improvement to reach
3-5bb/100 hand profit consistently..
can
.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Very good suggestion.
: I am going to reduce the playing time and trying to get 1 video in at least
: every other day. I have learned everything by playing the game itself mostly
: all year going from NL10 to NL100. I have a feeling that I am getting close
: to hitting the bottle neck. I can probably still win marginal profit or at least break even at NL100 or NL200, but i need more improvement to reach 3-5bb/100 hand profit consistently..
: Coaching is still too expensive for me. I will start with the t

W********m
发帖数: 7793
12
I do not see enough rush poker videos. But any FR video should be helpful
NL50 and above. Some 6 max videos should be good too if you run our of FR
ones.. There are plenty of them there.

reach

【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: what's the video name you think it is the best? Any rush game video?
:
: least
: mostly
: close
: at least break even at NL100 or NL200, but i need more improvement to reach
: 3-5bb/100 hand profit consistently..
: can
: .

a*****h
发帖数: 2182
13
你能把cardrunner上面的录像当些下来给咱们版面共享吗;)

least
mostly
close
at least break even at NL100 or NL200, but i need more improvement to reach
3-5bb/100 hand profit consistently..
can
.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Very good suggestion.
: I am going to reduce the playing time and trying to get 1 video in at least
: every other day. I have learned everything by playing the game itself mostly
: all year going from NL10 to NL100. I have a feeling that I am getting close
: to hitting the bottle neck. I can probably still win marginal profit or at least break even at NL100 or NL200, but i need more improvement to reach 3-5bb/100 hand profit consistently..
: Coaching is still too expensive for me. I will start with the t

W********m
发帖数: 7793
14
100mb file.. how to pass that along?
L****n
发帖数: 490
15
Even you save it, you still need the password to watch it. It's encrypted.
L****n
发帖数: 490
16
NL 100 俺还是很怀念的。
刚开始玩的时候,才在网上玩了两三天,就开始玩 NL 100 了。第一个周末就从 $40
赢到 $700。 后来陆陆续续还是输光了。
最近,在NL 100 玩了2.2K hand。开局也不错,有 27BB/100。主要是运气好。在NL 50
里却连 4bb/100 也没打到,还是不太敢 move up。
W********m
发帖数: 7793
17
难打啊难打, 每天先给自己挖个坑添... down 4buy in early today.. fortunate to
be able to crawl back to just down 67$... one table played to 400$.
好难打... 才1.5bb 了.... 我越来越没信心了...
y********n
发帖数: 2063
18
Normal.
I play super aggro. I have one day down 17 buyins record.
Guess you play very cautiously, and those huge downswings will not hit you.

to

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 难打啊难打, 每天先给自己挖个坑添... down 4buy in early today.. fortunate to
: be able to crawl back to just down 67$... one table played to 400$.
: 好难打... 才1.5bb 了.... 我越来越没信心了...

W********m
发帖数: 7793
19
4个buy in 对我来说己经很大了, 打NL100以前最多也只有4个buy in 。 NL100 37k
hand 就已经有两次了。。都是一天里。。 上次打回到up200. 这次打倒1am也没能扳回来。。。
这两次都打得我想降级了when i was at the bottom..。。 lol
有时候没办法.. 倒霉的时候,没牌 2 barrel 都打不走一small pocket pair.. 有强牌丫一c bet 就跑了. 有一medium strength top pair 的牌,又被人raise flop big, and pot turn.. KK slow play flat preflop.. raise flop call reraise all in on 223 board, 对方15% preflop raise short stack fish, 丫是AA.. lol
每一手牌都被抓得死死的..
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
20
bottleneck, although 4 buy-ins down is too normal, lol.
at current skill/stress level, if you can build a bigger roll from 50NL,
just do it, then take some small shots at NL100 (say, set aside $500), this
is how most pros grow up.
we have to feel like nothing for 4 buy-ins at a certain level, or we're
playing way beyond our capabilites.

37k
回来。。。
牌丫一c bet 就跑了. 有一medium strength top pair 的牌,又被人raise flop big,
and pot turn.. KK slow play flat preflop.. raise flop call reraise all in on
223 board,

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 4个buy in 对我来说己经很大了, 打NL100以前最多也只有4个buy in 。 NL100 37k
: hand 就已经有两次了。。都是一天里。。 上次打回到up200. 这次打倒1am也没能扳回来。。。
: 这两次都打得我想降级了when i was at the bottom..。。 lol
: 有时候没办法.. 倒霉的时候,没牌 2 barrel 都打不走一small pocket pair.. 有强牌丫一c bet 就跑了. 有一medium strength top pair 的牌,又被人raise flop big, and pot turn.. KK slow play flat preflop.. raise flop call reraise all in on 223 board, 对方15% preflop raise short stack fish, 丫是AA.. lol
: 每一手牌都被抓得死死的..

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大家都加slickwille那个homegame高手们从开始接触poker到开始赢钱都经历了多长时间啊?
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g**s
发帖数: 1114
21
When I was down 4 buy-in in NL100 several days ago, I felt that I dont know
how to play poker. No matter how I play, I lose the pot. And I did like you
did-- try to catch up by playing more and ended to lose more. the only bonus
I got on that day is I earned 2000+ ftp points... LOL...usually I only play
100-150 points per day...

37k
回来。。。
牌丫一c bet 就跑了. 有一medium strength top pair 的牌,又被人raise flop big,
and pot turn.. KK slow play flat preflop.. raise flop call reraise all in on
223 board, 对方15% p

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 4个buy in 对我来说己经很大了, 打NL100以前最多也只有4个buy in 。 NL100 37k
: hand 就已经有两次了。。都是一天里。。 上次打回到up200. 这次打倒1am也没能扳回来。。。
: 这两次都打得我想降级了when i was at the bottom..。。 lol
: 有时候没办法.. 倒霉的时候,没牌 2 barrel 都打不走一small pocket pair.. 有强牌丫一c bet 就跑了. 有一medium strength top pair 的牌,又被人raise flop big, and pot turn.. KK slow play flat preflop.. raise flop call reraise all in on 223 board, 对方15% preflop raise short stack fish, 丫是AA.. lol
: 每一手牌都被抓得死死的..

W********m
发帖数: 7793
22
我不是说4 buy-in 这个amount 很大, 我的bank roll 还是够的。。。 我是说这种
down swing对我来说很大,我的打法swing 是很小的。。其实这也是我打法里的
biggest strength and biggest weakness. 我这weakness 是靠我的读牌能力来弥补的
。pot size control 的strength 我就不多说了。。。
我一般不会用输赢来表示一个session 打得好还是不好。。 不过我上一贴说得都同时
发生你会感觉自己是不是被completely outplayed 和 outread 了.. 希望只是运气不
好。。。 lol
g**s
发帖数: 1114
23
what? pro does this like me??? LOL...
The first 4 buy-in down always make people frustrated and upset. I think we
just need get used to it when we move up. higher stake, much much more
variance...Now I calm down and get those lost from NL 50 back and will test
water in NL100 more.

this
,
on

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: bottleneck, although 4 buy-ins down is too normal, lol.
: at current skill/stress level, if you can build a bigger roll from 50NL,
: just do it, then take some small shots at NL100 (say, set aside $500), this
: is how most pros grow up.
: we have to feel like nothing for 4 buy-ins at a certain level, or we're
: playing way beyond our capabilites.
:
: 37k
: 回来。。。
: 牌丫一c bet 就跑了. 有一medium strength top pair 的牌,又被人raise flop big,

W********m
发帖数: 7793
24
不过上次我追回600$, 这次追回大部分,我对自己making profit 的ability 还是有信
心的。。 鱼和驴。NL100 还是不少的。。。
W********m
发帖数: 7793
25
这和我7月份时一样。。不过我玩得多, 并不tilt, 所以一般可以赢回不少。。

know
you
bonus
play
,
on

【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: When I was down 4 buy-in in NL100 several days ago, I felt that I dont know
: how to play poker. No matter how I play, I lose the pot. And I did like you
: did-- try to catch up by playing more and ended to lose more. the only bonus
: I got on that day is I earned 2000+ ftp points... LOL...usually I only play
: 100-150 points per day...
:
: 37k
: 回来。。。
: 牌丫一c bet 就跑了. 有一medium strength top pair 的牌,又被人raise flop big,
: and pot turn.. KK slow play flat preflop.. raise flop call reraise all in on

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
26
lol, yeah, Alan in his book "poker winners are different", calls this as "
pain threshold", once you pass it, you don't feel as much pain even you may
lose more.
you guys are already way ahead of me. i'm still struggling with 50NL rush,
almost 120K hands now, relying on bonus and rakeback, shameless.
confused about how to play poker? lol, you're not alone. the only thing
comforting me now is that i haven't lost a penny in any month for the last 2
years! even as low as $40 "profit" for this jan.,

【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: what? pro does this like me??? LOL...
: The first 4 buy-in down always make people frustrated and upset. I think we
: just need get used to it when we move up. higher stake, much much more
: variance...Now I calm down and get those lost from NL 50 back and will test
: water in NL100 more.
:
: this
: ,
: on

W********m
发帖数: 7793
27
fryking 太谦虚了。。。
你那"poker winners are different" 有没有electronic version? ^_^
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
28
谦虚 ge head, lol, i represent a group of sucking players who don't improve
as much and have to rely on small bonuses.
no, paper book.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: fryking 太谦虚了。。。
: 你那"poker winners are different" 有没有electronic version? ^_^

W********m
发帖数: 7793
29
咱们除了去年五月玩牌第一个月down 130$, 也一个月没输过钱。。 我们握握手吧。。 希望说
这话不要伤咱自己的人品。。 knock on the wood.. i knock knock knock....
我现在很怕说伤人品的话。。。 lol.. edge 越来越小。。 运气的影响力就越来越大。。
g**s
发帖数: 1114
30
fryking 太谦虚了。。。
too much 谦虚 is not good...

improve

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 谦虚 ge head, lol, i represent a group of sucking players who don't improve
: as much and have to rely on small bonuses.
: no, paper book.

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g**s
发帖数: 1114
31
I seldom tilt as I am really used to be bad beat. in live game or online...
Even I am not on tilt and I still lose is really making me frustrated...lol

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这和我7月份时一样。。不过我玩得多, 并不tilt, 所以一般可以赢回不少。。
:
: know
: you
: bonus
: play
: ,
: on

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
32
no, i don't want to be at all, but pls transfer $xxxxx to my account first
to make me feel like somebody.

【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: fryking 太谦虚了。。。
: too much 谦虚 is not good...
:
: improve

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