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TexasHoldem版 - 3-bet pot, JJ over pair flop facing 3-bet all in
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B*********s
发帖数: 4158
1
对手比较tight,当时觉得一定要fold,后来想想pod odds大约是3.5:1,是不是应该cal
l呢
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Full Tilt)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em
Table Apollo (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $30.17 USD )
Seat 2: Player2 ( $14.39 USD )
Seat 3: Player3 ( $41.44 USD )
Seat 4: Player4 ( $28.32 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 14, AF: Infinity, Ha
nds: 26
Seat 5: Player5 ( $12.48 USD )
Seat 6: Player6 ( $25.56 USD )
Seat 7: Player7 ( $25.64 USD )
Seat 8: Player8 ( $32.26 USD )
Seat 9: Hero ( $21.85 USD )
Player3 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Player4 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Jd Jh ]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player7 raises [$0.85 USD]
Player8 folds
Hero calls [$0.85 USD]
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Player4 raises [$3.25 USD]
Player7 folds
Hero calls [$2.65 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 3d, 8c ]
Player4 bets [$3.85 USD]
Hero raises [$8.25 USD]
Player4 raises [$20.97 USD]
Hero folds
Player4 wins $16.57 USD
Player4 wins $23.23 USD from main pot
r****r
发帖数: 1394
2
这个flop raise应该是commit自己了吧。
i think your hand is too good to be a bluffing hand.
it's a wet board. he can have overpair, or sth like AhQh or TJ or he can put
you on those hands. so I'll go with 3.5:1.
i think it is all in flop, or fold to his cbet if you believes him.
我还不到这个级别。
有没有可能call然后有机会show down呢?不过这种想法也许太weak了。

cal
Ha

【在 B*********s 的大作中提到】
: 对手比较tight,当时觉得一定要fold,后来想想pod odds大约是3.5:1,是不是应该cal
: l呢
: ***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Full Tilt)
: $25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em
: Table Apollo (Real Money)
: Seat 2 is the button
: Seat 1: Player1 ( $30.17 USD )
: Seat 2: Player2 ( $14.39 USD )
: Seat 3: Player3 ( $41.44 USD )
: Seat 4: Player4 ( $28.32 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 14, AF: Infinity, Ha

L****n
发帖数: 490
3
fold preflop with your stack size. Not enough implied odds to setmine.
At 25/50 level, ppl don't really bluff much with 3 bet. JJ do very poorly
against villain's AA,KK,QQ,AK range.
Unless his 3 bet range is very wide, at least 6%+ with enough hand history.
B*********s
发帖数: 4158
4
nut flush draw是不是更倾向于call我的re-raise呢。就算考虑上nut flush draw, 不
过nut flush draw也只有2-3种情况,AA+KK+QQ有18种情况。
另外我觉得flat flop得不到任何信息,他接着bet turn我怎么办,所以我就在flop re
-raise了

put

【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: 这个flop raise应该是commit自己了吧。
: i think your hand is too good to be a bluffing hand.
: it's a wet board. he can have overpair, or sth like AhQh or TJ or he can put
: you on those hands. so I'll go with 3.5:1.
: i think it is all in flop, or fold to his cbet if you believes him.
: 我还不到这个级别。
: 有没有可能call然后有机会show down呢?不过这种想法也许太weak了。
:
: cal
: Ha

B*********s
发帖数: 4158
5
我算了一下,其实pot odds还是差不多够call的。当然如果对手range更tight就应该
fold了

.

【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: fold preflop with your stack size. Not enough implied odds to setmine.
: At 25/50 level, ppl don't really bluff much with 3 bet. JJ do very poorly
: against villain's AA,KK,QQ,AK range.
: Unless his 3 bet range is very wide, at least 6%+ with enough hand history.

r****r
发帖数: 1394
6
flush draw只看turn一张的话odds不好,turn要是miss了,在turn上价值就急剧下降了。
再加上oop,如果我有flush draw+2over一定会3bet shove。
flat flop是得不到信息,而且几乎没有good turn card可以等。不过raise flop for
info书上说是比较贵。
raise-fold flop,这种打法好像被提得不多。

re

【在 B*********s 的大作中提到】
: nut flush draw是不是更倾向于call我的re-raise呢。就算考虑上nut flush draw, 不
: 过nut flush draw也只有2-3种情况,AA+KK+QQ有18种情况。
: 另外我觉得flat flop得不到任何信息,他接着bet turn我怎么办,所以我就在flop re
: -raise了
:
: put

r****r
发帖数: 1394
7
NL50 ppl only 3bet squeeze with AK and QQ+?
I dont think so.
we have windstorm 4-bets J9s at NL100, and I just bust a guy who 5-bets 50bb
with 46s at NL10.
haven't played NL25 and NL50 for a while. :)

.

【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: fold preflop with your stack size. Not enough implied odds to setmine.
: At 25/50 level, ppl don't really bluff much with 3 bet. JJ do very poorly
: against villain's AA,KK,QQ,AK range.
: Unless his 3 bet range is very wide, at least 6%+ with enough hand history.

L****n
发帖数: 490
8

50bb
actually I mean 10/25, not much 3 bet bluff base on my experience. When the
stack get higher. Player tend to 3 bet much more often.
Also, it depends on situation. The initial raiser is at EP, not quite a good
spot to 3 bet bluff.

【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: NL50 ppl only 3bet squeeze with AK and QQ+?
: I dont think so.
: we have windstorm 4-bets J9s at NL100, and I just bust a guy who 5-bets 50bb
: with 46s at NL10.
: haven't played NL25 and NL50 for a while. :)
:
: .

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
9
no, fold.
or let's try this way, if you list 3 hands that your tight opponent would
play exactly the same way (this strongly) AND your hand can beat, then call.
here i don't think there'd be 3.

cal
Ha

【在 B*********s 的大作中提到】
: 对手比较tight,当时觉得一定要fold,后来想想pod odds大约是3.5:1,是不是应该cal
: l呢
: ***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Full Tilt)
: $25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em
: Table Apollo (Real Money)
: Seat 2 is the button
: Seat 1: Player1 ( $30.17 USD )
: Seat 2: Player2 ( $14.39 USD )
: Seat 3: Player3 ( $41.44 USD )
: Seat 4: Player4 ( $28.32 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 14, AF: Infinity, Ha

W********m
发帖数: 7793
10
If you do not believe that he has an over pair, just call. To raise and
fold at this spot, it is never good.
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