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TexasHoldem版 - can i call this river?
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r****r
发帖数: 1394
1
感觉他的线路里边基本就是33,98,JJ和AcQc,6c7c,TJ,T7。
deep stack增加了对手bluff的动机。
这个river顶对实在尴尬。
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1165734
The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
CO: $53.57
BTN: $28.00
SB: $41.84
BB: $23.25
Hero (UTG): $51.91
Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Tc Jc
Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold
Flop: ($1.75) 3d 9c 8c (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB raises to $4.75, Hero raises to $14.75, SB
calls $10
Turn: ($31.25) 8d (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
River: ($31.25) Js (2 players)
SB bets $19.00, Hero folds
Final Pot: $31.25
SB wins $29.70
(Rake: $1.55)
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
2
bluff catcher at best, let it go.
flop raise was a little too big, you left him not enough chips/pot to fold
on turn/river, which could hurt you too (like this river situation) when you
missed.
fcf said, plan ahead for the pot size.

【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: 感觉他的线路里边基本就是33,98,JJ和AcQc,6c7c,TJ,T7。
: deep stack增加了对手bluff的动机。
: 这个river顶对实在尴尬。
: Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1165734
: The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
: CO: $53.57
: BTN: $28.00
: SB: $41.84
: BB: $23.25
: Hero (UTG): $51.91

W********m
发帖数: 7793
3
I think this is a call. what do you think he is representing here? 99 88 89 33 should all be down weighted. Hard to imagine that he would not go all in on the flop on a short handed table. JJ-AA are possible but are unlikely depending on his preflop 3 bet rate. J should not helped him except 10 7 and JJ. So,i think he has a draw a lot of the time trying to steal the pot. On the other hand if he check to you on river i think you should bet this J for value.
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
4
short handed is a good point.

89 33 should all be down weighted. Hard to imagine that he would not go all
in on the flop on a short handed table. JJ-AA are possible but are unlikely
depending on his preflop 3 bet rate. J should not helped him except 10 7
and JJ. So,i think he has a draw a lot of the time trying to steal the pot.
On the other hand if he check to you on river i think you should bet this J
for value.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I think this is a call. what do you think he is representing here? 99 88 89 33 should all be down weighted. Hard to imagine that he would not go all in on the flop on a short handed table. JJ-AA are possible but are unlikely depending on his preflop 3 bet rate. J should not helped him except 10 7 and JJ. So,i think he has a draw a lot of the time trying to steal the pot. On the other hand if he check to you on river i think you should bet this J for value.
W********m
发帖数: 7793
5
even if it is not short handed i think he is going all in on the flop with all the hand I listed with a drawy board.
W********m
发帖数: 7793
6
其实这牌如果board 不pair可以考虑shove turn. paired board shove look bluffy, 因为你full house 应该不会shove turn,可以考虑smallish bet like 1/3 pot and reevaluate river shove or check behind.
the following hand villian tanked until last sec to fold i think he has top pair at least
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Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
UTG: $54.55
UTG+1: $38.00
UTG+2: $120.10
MP1: $165.70
MP2: $80.80
Hero (CO): $100.00
BTN: $113.80
SB: $73.50
BB: $40.00
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 8c 9c
5 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $3, 2 folds
Flop: ($7.50) 7d 5c Kc (2 players)
Hero bets $4.40, BTN raises to $8.80, Hero raises to $24, BTN calls $15.20
Turn: ($55.50) 8d (2 players)
Hero bets $73 all in, BTN requests TIME, BTN folds
Final Pot: $55.50
Hero wins $52.75
(Rake: $2.75)
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
7
of course a shove turn if not paired, given the flop action, monster draw,
and remaining stack.
but paired turn made both hands polarized in the other's eyes (and on river
too), many medium strength hands would love to check or small blocking bet
river. this left only busted draws or best hands to have strong river action.

bluffy, 因为你full house 应该不会shove turn,可以考虑smallish bet like 1/3
pot and reevaluate river shove or check behind.
top pair at least

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 其实这牌如果board 不pair可以考虑shove turn. paired board shove look bluffy, 因为你full house 应该不会shove turn,可以考虑smallish bet like 1/3 pot and reevaluate river shove or check behind.
: the following hand villian tanked until last sec to fold i think he has top pair at least
: ===========================
: Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
: UTG: $54.55
: UTG+1: $38.00
: UTG+2: $120.10
: MP1: $165.70
: MP2: $80.80
: Hero (CO): $100.00

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
8
well, not to disagree but this play is only one possible kind, some other
players don't really want to kick you out or commit right away with a set
like hand.

all the hand I listed with a drawy board.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: even if it is not short handed i think he is going all in on the flop with all the hand I listed with a drawy board.
W********m
发帖数: 7793
9
you are right. Some people will play some hands very strangely. Therefore those hands are downweighted but not eliminated. To me if I call this river and he flip over full house. I would be very happy because his play saved me money + a note on a fish. But either way i am seeing the showdown.

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: well, not to disagree but this play is only one possible kind, some other
: players don't really want to kick you out or commit right away with a set
: like hand.
:
: all the hand I listed with a drawy board.

r****r
发帖数: 1394
10
dont think he would call flop..
right, proly shove any non pair turn.

you

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: bluff catcher at best, let it go.
: flop raise was a little too big, you left him not enough chips/pot to fold
: on turn/river, which could hurt you too (like this river situation) when you
: missed.
: fcf said, plan ahead for the pot size.

r****r
发帖数: 1394
11
do feel a +ev call..

89 33 should all be down weighted. Hard to imagine that he would not go all
in on the flop on a short handed table. JJ-AA are possible but are unlikely
depending on his preflop

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I think this is a call. what do you think he is representing here? 99 88 89 33 should all be down weighted. Hard to imagine that he would not go all in on the flop on a short handed table. JJ-AA are possible but are unlikely depending on his preflop 3 bet rate. J should not helped him except 10 7 and JJ. So,i think he has a draw a lot of the time trying to steal the pot. On the other hand if he check to you on river i think you should bet this J for value.
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