p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 1 I have no idea what he cold called 3 bet with. his stat is quite loose. He is a redline pro from UK. I would not say my turn play is too bad anyway, but I think there could be better way to get more value from top set. I think if he got JJ, he would call anyway.Hard for anyother hand to continue even AA or AK unless he is
on the draw.
***** Hand History for Game 29898026044 ***** (Full Tilt)
$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, April 14
Table Electro (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: Kiriusss ( $448.00 USD )
Seat 2: Gunz1555 ( $616.50 USD )
Seat 3: kauZey ( $414.80 USD )
Seat 4: GoodSeo2 ( $400.00 USD )
Seat 5: bebevalorosu ( $944.70 USD )
Seat 6: Hero ( $717.90 USD )
Seat 7: 6highisgood ( $492.10 USD )
Seat 8: R Romanello ( $770.20 USD )
Seat 9: Om nom nom ( $724.00 USD )
Kiriusss posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
Gunz1555 posts big blind [$4.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kd Kh ]
kauZey raises [$10.00 USD]
GoodSeo2 folds
bebevalorosu folds
Hero raises [$46.00 USD]
6highisgood folds
R Romanello calls [$46.00 USD]
Om nom nom folds
Kiriusss folds
Gunz1555 folds
kauZey folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, Ks, Js ]
Hero bets [$78.00 USD]
R Romanello calls [$78.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]
Hero checks
R Romanello bets [$164.00 USD]
Hero raises [$593.90 USD]
R Romanello folds
Hero wins $429.90 USD
Hero wins $589.00 USD from main pot | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 2 actually if he has a read on you, I think folding 2 pair or set is not too
crazy vs you here. Have you ever played like this with AA AK at this spot?
if you want to play tricky, call, and jam river, you might get looked up
lighter. I don't think he is on a strong draw, because he would probably
have raised flop. but even if he is on a draw, he probably bluff river
anyway just because you flat turn. When you are unwilling to put the stack
in on the turn on a drawy board, he will think he can bluff you off your pot. And you know his only option to bluff river is to shove right? because nothing else can move you off AA or AK obviously. On the other hand, any other made hand is drawing dead. so I think you look weak by flatting turn, so it could increase his chance of of calling a river raise or a big river bomb if he decide to check. if you want to stack AK or AA, i think flatting turn give you the best shot. there is no point to worry about JJ, because all the money is going in anyway no matter you jam turn or river.
When you play too aggressive with nuts and pot controlling everything else,
you are too easy to play against. Depolarizing yourself a little, it will
make you hard to read. if you flat here on the turn i think you can also jam AA,
maybe AK here on the river if checked to. then they would not know how to
play against you. I think your line works best vs loose/passive random fish. Vs good players, we should try to keep our range wide at all time.
With that being said, I probably shove turn myself anyway. | p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 3 Thanks. this is my very first time to play big pot with him and we have no
history before. I jam a lot with strong strong draw on the turn as
well, I would jam AsQs ,9sTs at that spot as well to get him fold anything but set.
I do not think he would fold any set, there is almost no 2 pair possiblity with 3 betting. He is a redline pro, can not expect him cold call 3 bet with KJ.
A big factor there is that I am OOP. I would not jam turn if I am in
position.
Anyway, jaming is not a perfect play, but would not be a big mistake either
.
stack
pot. And you know his only option to bluff river is to shove right? because
nothing else can move you off AA or AK obviously. On the other hand, any
other made hand is drawing dead. so I think you look weak by flatting turn,
so it could increase his chance of of calling a river raise or a big river
bomb if he decide to check. if you want to stack AK or AA, i think flatting
turn give you the best shot. there is no point to: worry about JJ, because
all the money is going in anyway no matter you jam turn or river.
,
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: actually if he has a read on you, I think folding 2 pair or set is not too
: crazy vs you here. Have you ever played like this with AA AK at this spot?
: if you want to play tricky, call, and jam river, you might get looked up
: lighter. I don't think he is on a strong draw, because he would probably
: have raised flop. but even if he is on a draw, he probably bluff river
: anyway just because you flat turn. When you are unwilling to put the stack
: in on the turn on a drawy board, he will think he can bluff you off your pot. And you know his only option to bluff river is to shove right? because nothing else can move you off AA or AK obviously. On the other hand, any other made hand is drawing dead. so I think you look weak by flatting turn, so it could increase his chance of of calling a river raise or a big river bomb if he decide to check. if you want to stack AK or AA, i think flatting turn give you the best shot. there is no point to worry about JJ, because all the money is going in anyway no matter you jam turn or river.
: When you play too aggressive with nuts and pot controlling everything else,
: you are too easy to play against. Depolarizing yourself a little, it will
: make you hard to read. if you flat here on the turn i think you can also jam AA,
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 my bad. I missed you are out of position. I guess no matter how you play you
look strong with this hand. might as well bet bet bet. He might just get creative to raise you somewhere or call you down light. who knows... (or bet bet check raise river?) check raise turn here pretty much blow away all of his hands. Like you said AK AA is not even going to pay off more. even check call and lead shove river looks super strong to me, but he might think otherwise.
or you can check call turn and blocking bet river (He might even shove AA on you for value. I know I might) or just jam river to get cute and confuse him.. ~~~ You can also check call turn and try to check raise river. if he is super aggressive with a lot of air here or something like Qs, he might just turn it into a bluff after you check call turn. There are so many lines that would work but all depend on what he chose to do with his hand. any line works but you can't have a super nit passive image, otherwise 2 street value is probably the most you can get from him. No matter how you play it, you look strong with the action + that board.. | T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 5 i played with fish most of the time and i don't know how pros play most of
the time. lol.
but normally his range for calling your 3-bet will include most of the poket
pairs, a small pct of SCs. the poket pair should excluding QQs+, and i dont
think he will call u with AK as any decent players will know cold call 3
bet with AK aganst a tight player like u is a bad deal.
looks like his flop and turn play is just trying to force you to laydown a
QQs cause that is the only strong hand looks weak on this board.
dont think you can make anymore money if he is a pro. call or jam the turn
has very little difference. the board just so good for a nit that hr know
the chance for you to laydown is slim. even you just called turn, he will
know the hand is over.
He is a redline pro from UK. I would not say my turn play is too bad anyway,
but I think there could be better way to get more value from top set. I
think if he got JJ, he would call anyway.Hard for anyother hand to continue
even AA or AK unless he is
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: Thanks. this is my very first time to play big pot with him and we have no
: history before. I jam a lot with strong strong draw on the turn as
: well, I would jam AsQs ,9sTs at that spot as well to get him fold anything but set.
: I do not think he would fold any set, there is almost no 2 pair possiblity with 3 betting. He is a redline pro, can not expect him cold call 3 bet with KJ.
:
: A big factor there is that I am OOP. I would not jam turn if I am in
: position.
: Anyway, jaming is not a perfect play, but would not be a big mistake either
: .
:
| s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 6 This is good results already. Get 50% of his stack w/ KK. You can only get
his whole stack if he hits set also (and he does not lay down, I bet 80% if
that happens). |
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