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TexasHoldem版 - Making 1k a month live is so god damn hard...
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621
1
Even for NL 2/5. If you can only play 5-6 hours per session, and play 3-4
days per month.
Not being able to put long hour sessions is a big factor I am just trending
water these days.
Usually I take casino bus 9:30 in the morning, 2 1/2 hours to get casino, so
it is already 12:00 pm or so if no traffic delay. Has to leave like 4:45 pm
to catch returning bus and get home like 7:15 pm at night. That is already
very generous of my LD for allowing me away from home for a full day at
weekend. I won't dare to take a longer session and otherwise I will return
home like midnight. That will certainly upset important sb :)
So for this Dec, I played 4 sessions, averaged like 6 hours each. The first
there were all right, I don't have a lot big hand, use some one pair hand,
and bluffed a quite few, did some manuvuer and win a little here and a
little there. Manage to take home like 1.1 k. The last Sunday session was a
disaster. Bumped into flop quads (3, 2 ,3 rainbow flop) with big pair, JJ
raised 30 to go, got 2 callers, villian shipped his stack after I c-bet $60.
I didn't expect him has any big hand by playing this way. The board was so
damn dry. I put him on over pair but less than JJs. I invested $90 with $170
behind so I called, villian turned over 33s. I then went on tilt, dumped
another $150 or so by bluffing a flopped set.
Managed to double up once, then KK vs AA, I didn't even re-pop after villian
3-bet me to $120. Flop a A probably saved my stack. I folded and villian
showed AAs.
A couple hands later, everyone limp, QQs at sb so I raised to 40s. UTG then
pop to $110, a pretty standard way to play AAs in early position these days,
I used quite a few times myself. Shame, I knew what he had and still called
anyway, flop all low cards and he shipped remaining $150 and shamefully I
called anyway again. I guess I just don't want to fold. A clear sign I am on
tilt so I quitted with $600+ loss.
That is why I think winning 1k is very hard for recreational players like us
. No offense, Fryking. One bad session or even one bad decision can set us
back a lot further away from our profit goal. In a short session, anything can happen. Playing 24-25 hours a month is a lot for me these days, but it was used to be one session 2 years ago.
I am resetting the goal to win every month and trying to enjoy playing poker
. haha.
W********m
发帖数: 7793
2
的确不容易。 这两个星期打了3 个weekday 白天session(5-7 hours). $345->$275->
$75. 越赢越少, 看来照这个趋势,我4 session 1k 也要泡汤了。。 靠。。没劲。。
打live session action 太慢,有时候容易失去focus, 然后就make bad decision.
H****r
发帖数: 2801
3
At winning rate 5BB/100 hands that's about 4000 hands, 100 hrs?
Only when there's big fishes giving out money can it be possible to get 1k
much faster...
Really think that fishes play a big role in live games.

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【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Even for NL 2/5. If you can only play 5-6 hours per session, and play 3-4
: days per month.
: Not being able to put long hour sessions is a big factor I am just trending
: water these days.
: Usually I take casino bus 9:30 in the morning, 2 1/2 hours to get casino, so
: it is already 12:00 pm or so if no traffic delay. Has to leave like 4:45 pm
: to catch returning bus and get home like 7:15 pm at night. That is already
: very generous of my LD for allowing me away from home for a full day at
: weekend. I won't dare to take a longer session and otherwise I will return
: home like midnight. That will certainly upset important sb :)

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
4
同学们,不要泄气,不要放弃!
tilt这个问题是可以解决的,leaks还是有很多比较容易补救的,这两个搞好了,前途
是光明的。
swthreefour上周问了俺一个问题,说他在两小时内,up $400,换是俺回不回家?俺肯
定的说没问题。他有些不情愿,说自己来一趟来回就将近3小时,跑这只玩2小时,而且
好象还有余力...走似乎很不甘心。

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【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Even for NL 2/5. If you can only play 5-6 hours per session, and play 3-4
: days per month.
: Not being able to put long hour sessions is a big factor I am just trending
: water these days.
: Usually I take casino bus 9:30 in the morning, 2 1/2 hours to get casino, so
: it is already 12:00 pm or so if no traffic delay. Has to leave like 4:45 pm
: to catch returning bus and get home like 7:15 pm at night. That is already
: very generous of my LD for allowing me away from home for a full day at
: weekend. I won't dare to take a longer session and otherwise I will return
: home like midnight. That will certainly upset important sb :)

H****r
发帖数: 2801
5
Consecutive 3 winning sessions and complain... Lower lever player like me
can go and cry now...

->


【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 的确不容易。 这两个星期打了3 个weekday 白天session(5-7 hours). $345->$275->
: $75. 越赢越少, 看来照这个趋势,我4 session 1k 也要泡汤了。。 靠。。没劲。。
: 打live session action 太慢,有时候容易失去focus, 然后就make bad decision.

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
6
FT,还是您老火眼金睛,俺都没看出是BSO贴,呵呵,瞟了一眼,以为是某个session,
本来赢300多,最后整回$75...

【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: Consecutive 3 winning sessions and complain... Lower lever player like me
: can go and cry now...
:
: ->
: 。

p****r
发帖数: 9164
7
AK兄,俺觉得打牌时, 不要给自己设硬指标。poker 这东西短期内运气成分很高,再
说, 我们也的确不能假设我们总打自己的Agame. 应该给自己适当留个buffer. 还首
先把打牌看作一个enjoy 的过程吧。
我打live full time时, 有一两个月是基本持平的, 有的月份赢得非常少,但也
有几个大的赢利月。毕竟打得牌少,variance就比较大。 online 还是好一些, 我
从来没有过losing month,赢利也相对较稳定。

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【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Even for NL 2/5. If you can only play 5-6 hours per session, and play 3-4
: days per month.
: Not being able to put long hour sessions is a big factor I am just trending
: water these days.
: Usually I take casino bus 9:30 in the morning, 2 1/2 hours to get casino, so
: it is already 12:00 pm or so if no traffic delay. Has to leave like 4:45 pm
: to catch returning bus and get home like 7:15 pm at night. That is already
: very generous of my LD for allowing me away from home for a full day at
: weekend. I won't dare to take a longer session and otherwise I will return
: home like midnight. That will certainly upset important sb :)

W********m
发帖数: 7793
8
咱不是要完成那个4 session 1k 的目标吗。 最后一个session 要赢3百, 不容易啊。
而且我的趋势是越赢越少。 第三个session 也打得很烂, 本来可以赢多点。 后悔。

Consecutive 3 winning sessions and complain... Lower lever player like me
can go and cry........
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【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: Consecutive 3 winning sessions and complain... Lower lever player like me
: can go and cry now...
:
: ->
: 。

W********m
发帖数: 7793
9
赢1/2 也要BSO? 我怕被人笑死。

FT,还是您老火眼金睛,俺都没看出是BSO贴,呵呵,瞟了一眼,以为是某个session,
本来赢300多,最后整回$75...
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: FT,还是您老火眼金睛,俺都没看出是BSO贴,呵呵,瞟了一眼,以为是某个session,
: 本来赢300多,最后整回$75...

p****t
发帖数: 292
10
I am shocked by the lack of understanding variance in poker on this board
unless you were just trying to show off.
Try www.evplusplus.com and run simulations by yourself.
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I really really hate those over-aggressive Europian Donk说到AA quads
做下来第一把share some hands
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W********m
发帖数: 7793
11
I am shocked too in fact at many other poker forums .. Hehe..

【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: I am shocked by the lack of understanding variance in poker on this board
: unless you were just trying to show off.
: Try www.evplusplus.com and run simulations by yourself.

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
12
完全可能,俺上个session要不是自己fancy play那把donk bluff,还有一把自己给自
己下套严重lose value,俺可能都$600+了,哈哈,还有Ks6s那把也是,胆子大一点
reshove,PLO的牌是明的,而whale有boat的可能只有1/3。
总结提高挖坑水平!

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 咱不是要完成那个4 session 1k 的目标吗。 最后一个session 要赢3百, 不容易啊。
: 而且我的趋势是越赢越少。 第三个session 也打得很烂, 本来可以赢多点。 后悔。
:
: Consecutive 3 winning sessions and complain... Lower lever player like me
: can go and cry........
: ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
13
咋了?靠自己能力挣钱,就是$5也是要出来亮相的,哈哈。

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 赢1/2 也要BSO? 我怕被人笑死。
:
: FT,还是您老火眼金睛,俺都没看出是BSO贴,呵呵,瞟了一眼,以为是某个session,
: 本来赢300多,最后整回$75...
: ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
14
这帮老黄瓜都是online磨炼出来的,哭爹叫妈的时候很多,哈哈,怕波动可能两年前就
不玩了。

【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: I am shocked by the lack of understanding variance in poker on this board
: unless you were just trying to show off.
: Try www.evplusplus.com and run simulations by yourself.

W********m
发帖数: 7793
15
个人感觉你那k6s的牌问题很大, 但问题不在于river没有3bet shove.

完全可能,俺上个session要不是自己fancy play那把donk bluff,还有一把自己给自
己下套严重lose value,俺可能都$600 了,哈哈,还有Ks6s那........
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 完全可能,俺上个session要不是自己fancy play那把donk bluff,还有一把自己给自
: 己下套严重lose value,俺可能都$600+了,哈哈,还有Ks6s那把也是,胆子大一点
: reshove,PLO的牌是明的,而whale有boat的可能只有1/3。
: 总结提高挖坑水平!

p****r
发帖数: 9164
16
+1. do not like the call preflop at all. These hands can earlier get you
into trouble.
I won one of my biggest pot in no cap 2-5 NL when I was against K6s. :)

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 个人感觉你那k6s的牌问题很大, 但问题不在于river没有3bet shove.
:
: 完全可能,俺上个session要不是自己fancy play那把donk bluff,还有一把自己给自
: 己下套严重lose value,俺可能都$600 了,哈哈,还有Ks6s那........
: ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36

D*A
发帖数: 1169
17
此时是不是如果不会fold给shove的话,就应该shove?

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 完全可能,俺上个session要不是自己fancy play那把donk bluff,还有一把自己给自
: 己下套严重lose value,俺可能都$600+了,哈哈,还有Ks6s那把也是,胆子大一点
: reshove,PLO的牌是明的,而whale有boat的可能只有1/3。
: 总结提高挖坑水平!

W********m
发帖数: 7793
18
He raised in that hand. I like the raise in position. But I would make it 14
$ probably. Post flop seems very confused. value or induce on the river? I
don't know what he was trying to do with his read of "he can't let marginal
hand go but very rare to raise river". Small bet with flush here is
completely counterintuitive against the read.

1. do not like the call preflop at all. These hands can earlier get you
into trouble.I ........
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【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: +1. do not like the call preflop at all. These hands can earlier get you
: into trouble.
: I won one of my biggest pot in no cap 2-5 NL when I was against K6s. :)

c******q
发帖数: 456
19
Agree. The river bet is a little bit confusing. When facing a raise, it is
tough to figure out the raiser made the move for bluff since he sensed
weakness or purely for value. I am leaning toward to check/call the river.
One pro said this in his video "if you plan to call anyway, calling is
always better than betting". Of course it is also okay to bet relative big
and fold to a raise if you believe the opponent will never raise for bluff
here.

14
marginal

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: He raised in that hand. I like the raise in position. But I would make it 14
: $ probably. Post flop seems very confused. value or induce on the river? I
: don't know what he was trying to do with his read of "he can't let marginal
: hand go but very rare to raise river". Small bet with flush here is
: completely counterintuitive against the read.
:
: 1. do not like the call preflop at all. These hands can earlier get you
: into trouble.I ........
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W********m
发帖数: 7793
20
This depends on the player. Vs a loose passive player (most of 1/2 live
player) who rarely raise river for value or for bluff, we definitely bet big
to get full vale from Qx and smaller flush. I would bet 70$-80$ range
when PLO checks and fold to a raise. This hand is just played very
strangely. The read on whale was wrong, the play was wrong too. So it end up
a winning hand. Now 3 bet shove river has even less logic in it except for
an after thought that the whale actually had Qx I should have shoved for
full value

Agree. The river bet is a little bit confusing. When facing a raise, it is
tough to figu........
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【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: Agree. The river bet is a little bit confusing. When facing a raise, it is
: tough to figure out the raiser made the move for bluff since he sensed
: weakness or purely for value. I am leaning toward to check/call the river.
: One pro said this in his video "if you plan to call anyway, calling is
: always better than betting". Of course it is also okay to bet relative big
: and fold to a raise if you believe the opponent will never raise for bluff
: here.
:
: 14
: marginal

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W********m
发帖数: 7793
21
Pro说的不敢苟同。 river action is very situational. I think it's better to
bet for value than check/call for vale more often. But a lot of other
factor needs to be considered.

Agree. The river bet is a little bit confusing. When facing a raise, it is
tough to figu........
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【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: Agree. The river bet is a little bit confusing. When facing a raise, it is
: tough to figure out the raiser made the move for bluff since he sensed
: weakness or purely for value. I am leaning toward to check/call the river.
: One pro said this in his video "if you plan to call anyway, calling is
: always better than betting". Of course it is also okay to bet relative big
: and fold to a raise if you believe the opponent will never raise for bluff
: here.
:
: 14
: marginal

c******q
发帖数: 456
22
I can't 100% follow his logic either. I guess what he's saying here is that
call is always better than bet (maximize EV) if there is definitely a bet
and a call, either you bet/your opponent calls or you cc/your opponent bets.
His argument is that your opponent's betting range is wider than his
calling range.
p****r
发帖数: 9164
23
Talking about river decision against aggro opp, this vid could be a good
example. It is PLO, but it has similar thought process. It is a lot about
your range vs your opponent's range.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEGwmDaRoGQ&feature=g-all-u&context=G265f02cFAAAAAAAACAA


that
bets.

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: I can't 100% follow his logic either. I guess what he's saying here is that
: call is always better than bet (maximize EV) if there is definitely a bet
: and a call, either you bet/your opponent calls or you cc/your opponent bets.
: His argument is that your opponent's betting range is wider than his
: calling range.

H****r
发帖数: 2801
24
Very nice video. Phil Galfond seems to be much better playing online.
Poker is fascinating. I think for players at my level the other side of the
question is when would you let go AA. Guess the answer is also very
situational ....

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: Talking about river decision against aggro opp, this vid could be a good
: example. It is PLO, but it has similar thought process. It is a lot about
: your range vs your opponent's range.
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEGwmDaRoGQ&feature=g-all-u&context=G265f02cFAAAAAAAACAA
:
:
: that
: bets.

p****r
发帖数: 9164
25
I think in HSP S7, he wanted to show off his poker talent to Johnny Chan
etc too much and just way off his game. He made tons of bad calls that he
would not make when he plays his normal game. He is 25 y old kid anyway.

the

【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: Very nice video. Phil Galfond seems to be much better playing online.
: Poker is fascinating. I think for players at my level the other side of the
: question is when would you let go AA. Guess the answer is also very
: situational ....

D*A
发帖数: 1169
26
"if you plan to call anyway, calling is always better than betting"
oh, this is reverse to what i heard before:
"if you plan to call a shove anyway, you'd better shove yourself"
yeah, his betting range is wider in low end (including air), but maybe
narrower in high end (a lots of hand can call will check behind).
W********m
发帖数: 7793
27
这个完全和对手有关. 对手水平越高, 一般水平高体现在, bluff more facing
weakness, value bet thinner, can lay down big hands facing strength. 这种对手check call 可能更有优势, 平时我们见到的鱼都是又松又软(其实有些weak reg 也是), calling shove range is wider than shove range (big leak), 当然主动shove好. 毕竟一般Isildur不会坐在我们对面.
Galfond 的key read to make his decision here
1) Isildur bluffs 50% with busted draw here.
2) Isildur is capable of laying down small flush here if shoved to, but would shove small flush for value if checked to (真高手啊)
Not many people can do this at our regular table. It is easy to make the checking decision with this specific read.

【在 D*A 的大作中提到】
: "if you plan to call anyway, calling is always better than betting"
: oh, this is reverse to what i heard before:
: "if you plan to call a shove anyway, you'd better shove yourself"
: yeah, his betting range is wider in low end (including air), but maybe
: narrower in high end (a lots of hand can call will check behind).

p****r
发帖数: 9164
28
分析的不错,这个vid对我启发很大,river 的那部分看了好几遍。 我在打 Hu碰
到这种情况时,除非对手经常喜欢shove/overbet missed draw,经常是主动shove 的,
担心对手那得是的有showdown value 的牌,check behind, 怕miss value. 另外,主
动shove 更像一个missed draw. 看来,跟真正的高手过招,思路的确是不同。
另外一个就是要搞清自己rep 的range, 和我们分析的对手的range. 加上对手的
tendency, 作出最优化的river decision.



对手check call 可能更有优势, 平时我们见到的鱼都是又松又软(其实有些weak reg
也是), calling shove range is wider than shove range (big leak), 当然主动
shove好. 毕竟一般Isildur不会坐在我们对面.
would shove small flush for value if checked to (真高手啊)
checking decision with this specific read.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这个完全和对手有关. 对手水平越高, 一般水平高体现在, bluff more facing
: weakness, value bet thinner, can lay down big hands facing strength. 这种对手check call 可能更有优势, 平时我们见到的鱼都是又松又软(其实有些weak reg 也是), calling shove range is wider than shove range (big leak), 当然主动shove好. 毕竟一般Isildur不会坐在我们对面.
: Galfond 的key read to make his decision here
: 1) Isildur bluffs 50% with busted draw here.
: 2) Isildur is capable of laying down small flush here if shoved to, but would shove small flush for value if checked to (真高手啊)
: Not many people can do this at our regular table. It is easy to make the checking decision with this specific read.

W********m
发帖数: 7793
29
I just watched episo 9 10 11 of HSP 7. I don't think Galfond played bad at
all. He clearly was the best player on the table, playing many pots with
excellent read. Johny Chan was very tight and got lucky with couple draws.
Other than that, he did not do any thing spectacular. I think the second
best player on that table was probably Antonio E. Brunson was just a nit
waiting to catch one of the fish

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: 分析的不错,这个vid对我启发很大,river 的那部分看了好几遍。 我在打 Hu碰
: 到这种情况时,除非对手经常喜欢shove/overbet missed draw,经常是主动shove 的,
: 担心对手那得是的有showdown value 的牌,check behind, 怕miss value. 另外,主
: 动shove 更像一个missed draw. 看来,跟真正的高手过招,思路的确是不同。
: 另外一个就是要搞清自己rep 的range, 和我们分析的对手的range. 加上对手的
: tendency, 作出最优化的river decision.
:
:
:
: 对手check call 可能更有优势, 平时我们见到的鱼都是又松又软(其实有些weak reg

W********m
发帖数: 7793
30
the two live poker legends are obviously no match to one of the best
internet players. But when they play tight and are capable of making moves,
it is still not easy to win big from them. After all, the hand strength
still is an important factor in NL Holdem.
Galfond played bad vs Johny Chan. That 3 bet pot, I think he gave him too much credit to bluff a 3 bet
pot out of position. On Chan's part it was a good play to maximize his profit by raising a so so strong hand
to confuse Galfond. The edge between good players are there, but it is really not that big. That hand
showed exactly that.

at
draws.
second
nit

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I just watched episo 9 10 11 of HSP 7. I don't think Galfond played bad at
: all. He clearly was the best player on the table, playing many pots with
: excellent read. Johny Chan was very tight and got lucky with couple draws.
: Other than that, he did not do any thing spectacular. I think the second
: best player on that table was probably Antonio E. Brunson was just a nit
: waiting to catch one of the fish

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p****r
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you mean chan's kQ hand? I think Chan has good read on Phil. When Phil 3
bet so light in the game, Chan knows that phil very likely does not have
much. Phil put chan on a draw. Check/raising with top pair on the turn is a
good example of depolorizing as well. Phil made a bad call with his KJ vs
Chan's flush as well.

Winning poker is not about doing something spectacular, it is a lot
about making good adjustment based on the game and make less mistakes over
long run.Chan played tight based on the table dynamics.

Chan is one of the winnest player at Balywin room. Recently, he is
the biggest winner at Macau big game(1,300$-2600$ NL) too. We still should
give him a lot of respect to his game.

,
too much credit to bluff a 3 bet
profit by raising a so so strong hand
really not that big. That hand

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: the two live poker legends are obviously no match to one of the best
: internet players. But when they play tight and are capable of making moves,
: it is still not easy to win big from them. After all, the hand strength
: still is an important factor in NL Holdem.
: Galfond played bad vs Johny Chan. That 3 bet pot, I think he gave him too much credit to bluff a 3 bet
: pot out of position. On Chan's part it was a good play to maximize his profit by raising a so so strong hand
: to confuse Galfond. The edge between good players are there, but it is really not that big. That hand
: showed exactly that.
:
: at

W********m
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I was not saying chan was not good. He is one of the top players for a
reason. I just think Galfond might have a little edge over him. Chan won a
lot on HSP 7 mainly because he caught a lot of good cards at the right time
. Even after he fold half of better hands, he still won a lot. That AA hand
was like a donation to him.
Poker is about grinding and not making mistakes, not about fancy plays. Of
course. I don't think you need to tell me that.

you mean chan's kQ hand? I think Chan has good read on Phil. When Phil 3 bet
so light in........
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【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: you mean chan's kQ hand? I think Chan has good read on Phil. When Phil 3
: bet so light in the game, Chan knows that phil very likely does not have
: much. Phil put chan on a draw. Check/raising with top pair on the turn is a
: good example of depolorizing as well. Phil made a bad call with his KJ vs
: Chan's flush as well.
:
: Winning poker is not about doing something spectacular, it is a lot
: about making good adjustment based on the game and make less mistakes over
: long run.Chan played tight based on the table dynamics.
:

F**S
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今天玩的是12月的第三个session,如lz所说的,如果一个连续的时间不够长的话真的
会波动很大。
每次纪律性也很重要,我每次就带100,输了走人就当一个比较花钱的爱好来培养。
session1:770/8hs
session2:-90/2hrs
session3:180/4hrs
一个圣诞赚的还没有一个周末通宵来的多
M********g
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I am watching the hsp 7-10. Galfond was bluffed by Klein's river 150k bet. I
am not saying it was a bad fold. But Galfond only analyzed the board
without paying any attention to Klein's nervous appearance. In terms of
range analysis, he beats Johnny hands down. But he still lacks the live
poker skill, which is the read on person. Those professional players have
few tells. But Klein was a business men.
On how to profit more from those fat cats, Johnny beats Galfond hands down.
Because his reading is so strong. Maybe that is why he is the biggest winner
in Macau recently.

a
time
hand
bet

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I was not saying chan was not good. He is one of the top players for a
: reason. I just think Galfond might have a little edge over him. Chan won a
: lot on HSP 7 mainly because he caught a lot of good cards at the right time
: . Even after he fold half of better hands, he still won a lot. That AA hand
: was like a donation to him.
: Poker is about grinding and not making mistakes, not about fancy plays. Of
: course. I don't think you need to tell me that.
:
: you mean chan's kQ hand? I think Chan has good read on Phil. When Phil 3 bet
: so light in........

l*****g
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I totally agree with you. I watched that season too. Chan played very well,
especially when he was against Phil Galfond. I like the KQ hand he played
against with Phil Galfond. At the end, he said to Phil," I know you like to
bluff, so I just check and let you bet." When I was playing the tournament
in Aria, I played my KQ almost exactly like this one, and I won a huge pot.
If had not I watched this video and learned so much from Chan's play, I
would've never played that KQ hand like that. Phil Galfond is a good player,
but compared to Jonny Chan, he needs much more experiences to compete with
Chan. I like Chan's style, 非常稳健和游刃有余。

a
vs

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: you mean chan's kQ hand? I think Chan has good read on Phil. When Phil 3
: bet so light in the game, Chan knows that phil very likely does not have
: much. Phil put chan on a draw. Check/raising with top pair on the turn is a
: good example of depolorizing as well. Phil made a bad call with his KJ vs
: Chan's flush as well.
:
: Winning poker is not about doing something spectacular, it is a lot
: about making good adjustment based on the game and make less mistakes over
: long run.Chan played tight based on the table dynamics.
:

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