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I**n
发帖数: 839
1
上次玩plo还是黑色星期五之前在fulltilt打0.5-1 poker现在对我来说只能是是娱乐而
已 也曾有很多想法 但确实资质太差 比如说看别人写牌谱 自己每次打完牌却一手牌都
记不住 大多时打牌凭感觉很少有量化的策略 既是娱乐 偶尔赢了沾沾自喜以下 输了就
当是花钱消费 说句f*k了事 一直没什么长进
周末偷空去玩omaha8 my favorite 4/8limit在bravo上查到有game 手机上了两个小时
的闹钟 赶过去table居然break了 f*k it 既然来了 上PLO 其实也心痒了很久了 就500
刀吧 爽一把 输了也心甘
登记好之后 赶紧下载amazon kindle看看jeff hwang是怎么说的 md刚看了一页那边就
催了 上吧 min-buyin是100 就先买200开始 坐上去一看 曹大概有一半是2+2上来的
internet kids 什么raise7x什么的说的都是行话 观察了一会其实是在回想书上写的
four cards working together, play position, don't play weak hands out of
position, 对position, position, position 因为short stack 就找机会double up吧
终于有一把在后卫button附近limp in with A789 double suited之类的牌 flop一个
open ended with nut flush draw 前面有人pot call, call到我这里call和all-in 其
实没什么差别了 先call一下 turn blank, pot, one caller, i got good odds
called all in, missed, there goes my first buy-in 对dealer说 i will be back
占到旁边想了想 自己也没什么错的 倒是看到别人有些错误 就又坐下with my last $
300 这次更小心 看到另外有些short stack总在前位limp或call one raise ($10-$15
only)然后被后面的repot然后弃牌的 心里想short stack 不是这么玩得牙 我如果limp
一定是要能preflop all in 的牌才行 有一把family limp的牌 我在big blind KT8x
之类的 flop 887 我本想lead out的 又一想谁tm float我一下怎么办 就一直check到
river 亮牌后右手的chip leader说 there is a lot to bet with that hands 我只能
作无辜状 又小打小闹了一会 发现我其实在最好的位置 右手的$5k-$6k chip leader
中年白人 super aggressive 他limp 基本上没什么人敢pot 这样我可以稍微loose一点
不过基本上我还是只玩premium的牌 尤其是中前位弃牌很坚决 这样大大减少了头疼率
有一吧根前面类似的牌 三家到河底 我hit到nut flush 开始有一些筹码和fold
equity. 中间有一些holdem的牌手short buy加入 hit到flop要all-in 发现只能bet
pot然后一二三四五一堆人call到turn上牌型大变 要么forced to fold要么被追上 很
难survive 总之边打边学吧 大概有几把还有印象的牌
1) 一菲律宾女 总是两百两百的short buy还总是抱怨被追 你这个0 fold equity 还玩
边缘牌 能不被追么 她在blind hit到顺子 half pot, 白女中位all 我在后nut flush
call, turn blank, half pot, call, I have to call, river hit my flush, she
couldn't let it go, call my river bet and lost. 这把牌我觉得她直接pot再pot
中位没人接的话我应该也fold了 整晚上除了river我基本上是pot bet. 这把牌我river
只bet了200 (350left) 中位女k-high flush instant called 其实还是应该bet big
她没有大牌200也跟不了 有牌的话350不会丢 这把运气好没啥说的
2) 最大的一手 我中位A347single suit 到右手chip leader raise to 15, 一般我会
直接扔 前面说了 他进来的话很少有人repop 投机了一把 一堆人跟 flop J25 rainbow
前面bet 40 我有一个小wrap with back door nut flush 这时我已经有1k的筹码 感
觉有点深 就简单call 三四个人call turn 6! Make my straight with redraw but
also possible flush draw(not my suit) 前面check 没什么说的我直接pot 大概快
300的样子 应该没有人Jacks如果nut flush call的话 turn上blank勉强还能pot一次
后面女婆婆秒call 然后白calling station repot, nothing I can do, I call, 婆婆
call, river 8! made the flush. 两人checked down. All I worry is some
emergency flush. Luckily 婆婆2 pair ??? (that tells why she lost 6k in the
game), 白calling station with bare 34, I won 3k pot
和chip lead 交手两次都不很成功 明天有空补上
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
2
哥,您老也炸出来了,哈哈,good job!
期待后续!
PLO是俺的强项,版上人都知道,有问题随便问。

500

【在 I**n 的大作中提到】
: 上次玩plo还是黑色星期五之前在fulltilt打0.5-1 poker现在对我来说只能是是娱乐而
: 已 也曾有很多想法 但确实资质太差 比如说看别人写牌谱 自己每次打完牌却一手牌都
: 记不住 大多时打牌凭感觉很少有量化的策略 既是娱乐 偶尔赢了沾沾自喜以下 输了就
: 当是花钱消费 说句f*k了事 一直没什么长进
: 周末偷空去玩omaha8 my favorite 4/8limit在bravo上查到有game 手机上了两个小时
: 的闹钟 赶过去table居然break了 f*k it 既然来了 上PLO 其实也心痒了很久了 就500
: 刀吧 爽一把 输了也心甘
: 登记好之后 赶紧下载amazon kindle看看jeff hwang是怎么说的 md刚看了一页那边就
: 催了 上吧 min-buyin是100 就先买200开始 坐上去一看 曹大概有一半是2+2上来的
: internet kids 什么raise7x什么的说的都是行话 观察了一会其实是在回想书上写的

I**n
发帖数: 839
3
chip leader 中年白人 super aggressive 言行举止像极了我的大boss SMITH, 打起来
收放自如 range很宽 could show anything from any position, 真正的intimidation
3) 我在中前位AAxx off suit called his 15 open, 有四五个人进来 flop A28
rainbow he leads out half pot, i call trying to trap him, 后卫白富美(k high
flush女)call. I have 3k both got me covered. Turn 7, now straght/flush draw
on the board, he checked. 我感觉应该bet 但他喜欢river pot 就继续trap check
behind, river T, possible straight, he leads out 25! the smallest bet he
ever had, it totally confused me, I called becaused I dont know what to do
而且我尽量不做长考 白富美仍 Smith showed 22xx, he lost the minimum 早知道在
turn pot, represent big draw 会好些

500

【在 I**n 的大作中提到】
: 上次玩plo还是黑色星期五之前在fulltilt打0.5-1 poker现在对我来说只能是是娱乐而
: 已 也曾有很多想法 但确实资质太差 比如说看别人写牌谱 自己每次打完牌却一手牌都
: 记不住 大多时打牌凭感觉很少有量化的策略 既是娱乐 偶尔赢了沾沾自喜以下 输了就
: 当是花钱消费 说句f*k了事 一直没什么长进
: 周末偷空去玩omaha8 my favorite 4/8limit在bravo上查到有game 手机上了两个小时
: 的闹钟 赶过去table居然break了 f*k it 既然来了 上PLO 其实也心痒了很久了 就500
: 刀吧 爽一把 输了也心甘
: 登记好之后 赶紧下载amazon kindle看看jeff hwang是怎么说的 md刚看了一页那边就
: 催了 上吧 min-buyin是100 就先买200开始 坐上去一看 曹大概有一半是2+2上来的
: internet kids 什么raise7x什么的说的都是行话 观察了一会其实是在回想书上写的

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
4
he looks like very careful and experienced.
too many ppl play PLO in NLHM way.

intimidation
high
draw

【在 I**n 的大作中提到】
: chip leader 中年白人 super aggressive 言行举止像极了我的大boss SMITH, 打起来
: 收放自如 range很宽 could show anything from any position, 真正的intimidation
: 3) 我在中前位AAxx off suit called his 15 open, 有四五个人进来 flop A28
: rainbow he leads out half pot, i call trying to trap him, 后卫白富美(k high
: flush女)call. I have 3k both got me covered. Turn 7, now straght/flush draw
: on the board, he checked. 我感觉应该bet 但他喜欢river pot 就继续trap check
: behind, river T, possible straight, he leads out 25! the smallest bet he
: ever had, it totally confused me, I called becaused I dont know what to do
: 而且我尽量不做长考 白富美仍 Smith showed 22xx, he lost the minimum 早知道在
: turn pot, represent big draw 会好些

I**n
发帖数: 839
5
You are right. That's what exactly I felt after the hand. Overall I am too
intimidated. Then came the next hand.
4)Middle position I called his open with AQTT with QT suited. A few callers.
I had 3k and he got me well covered. Flop AJ9 with AJ my suit. He checked
and I pot with 100, only he called. Turn blank he pot before me. Now I had
open ended straight flush draw. Should I call, pot, fold? First hand I
really contemplated. He smiled, "this could be the biggest pot tonight".
Then he said "Jacks?". I rarely talks at the table because I normally gave
out more information instead of getting any. I pot the flop with quite a few
customers so he knows I had something but he still leads out. I have a good
draw but he may holds all my pivotal cards. I didn't think too long before
folding. He later told me he had AAs with K high flush draw which I am
really afraid of. Nut with redraw, except pure bluffing. I did have a few
blockers but choose not to risk.
5) bluff. I made two bluff, one up one down. One hand 菲女前位 lead flop &
turn 白富美 call/call, I called down with my wrap. river runner runner
flush. They both checked. Pot is quite big. 菲女 couldn't call with one
player behind. 白富美 fold as well. 感觉三人的pot比较容易steal. 另一把我跟白
富美heads up. I lead out twice. One the river pot around 200. I don't want
to think too much which makes my play suspicious. I quickly bet $60 and she
tank called with bare AAs! value bet bigger, Bluff smaller, that's what Jeff
said in his book. But in this particular hand I should bluff big. 白富美是
个好人 Once she called river pot with nuts because she felt bad for 白婆婆
who lost a bunch.

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: he looks like very careful and experienced.
: too many ppl play PLO in NLHM way.
:
: intimidation
: high
: draw

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
6
PLO water is deep, the game of nuts.
i need a strong heart to play it, haha.

callers.
few
good

【在 I**n 的大作中提到】
: You are right. That's what exactly I felt after the hand. Overall I am too
: intimidated. Then came the next hand.
: 4)Middle position I called his open with AQTT with QT suited. A few callers.
: I had 3k and he got me well covered. Flop AJ9 with AJ my suit. He checked
: and I pot with 100, only he called. Turn blank he pot before me. Now I had
: open ended straight flush draw. Should I call, pot, fold? First hand I
: really contemplated. He smiled, "this could be the biggest pot tonight".
: Then he said "Jacks?". I rarely talks at the table because I normally gave
: out more information instead of getting any. I pot the flop with quite a few
: customers so he knows I had something but he still leads out. I have a good

I**n
发帖数: 839
7
6) Game flow. As I first sat down I am like a 羞涩的少女. Slowly I flow into
the game. I could feel when 白站长 lost a pot and ready to repot preflop so
I tossed my speculative hands which I normally play. The game kept changing
dynamics but overall I managed to play accordingly. I did loose up a little
and played a few marginal hands from bad positions but stopped the bleeding
in time.
7) Normally I would play to table break. This is the fist time I set the 2
hours timer before sitting down. I ends up playing 8 hours before quitting.
The game is still good and I (probably) made a bad fold and were angry with
myself. Well it's time to go. I cashed out 2800 in the end. 白富美turned out
to be 大赢家. She is running really good.
8) After thought. PLO is fun but swingny. I could easily lose a bunch. My
preset limit never worked anyway. Overall I am happy with my play. I can
spot the weak in the game and avoid the traps. But still I don't think it's
my game. I will probably stick to my omaha8 for fun.

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: PLO water is deep, the game of nuts.
: i need a strong heart to play it, haha.
:
: callers.
: few
: good

T********n
发帖数: 528
8
Sounds like a fun game! Most live PLO games around my area is pretty passive
pre flop and most people just waiting for the nuts, instead of jamming
equity >.<
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