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TexasHoldem版 - Everytime I tried to be Tom Dwan, I got punished.
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话题: sb话题: hero话题: mp话题: tom话题: dwan
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621
1
Weekend headed to Casino, they gave away blenders to selected customers and
I was selected (hint: VIP, long term loyal customers, and suckers). A brand
new blender? Weeee... Sweet. LP had no reason to stop me now but letting me
go. I am piking up her Kitchen ware, for Gods sake.
Of course, there might be poker. Nowadays I played a lot NL 1/2, very few 2/
5 because I am afraid of swing, and no time to get back because I don't play
long session.
Anyway, sitting down at a typical 1/2 table, a lot of limp but no calling
station. My card dead for a while. After a few stealing without any
resistance, my Tom Dwan fantasy became to occupy my brain, whenever it
happened, I got screwed, this time it is no exception.
MP a tight player with $400+ stack raised $10, fold to me with $420 stack at
cut off, I looked down and saw 8h5h. Suited connectors? Let me 3-bet with
this baby! I see Tom did it many time on TV! And for live 1-2, usually ppl 3
-bet with a very tight range. Very good chance ppl will respect the 3-bet
and let me pick up the pot.
I raised to $36, then something unexpected happened. SB, a semi-loose short
stack cold called, MP tanked for 30 secs and then called as well. I already
swelling and think they all got good pair and plan to shut down if I didn't
connect the flop at all.
Flop 2s 3h 4h. Sh*t, couldn't be any better other than flopping straight.
SB instantly All-in for rest of 85ish. MP hesitant but just called also. My
assessment doesn't change that they still got two good pairs. Folding was
not an options, my choice is to go all-in or just flat call. After think for
a while, I decided based on stack size, just call in position was a better
play for me. So I just called as well.
Turn Ac. MP checked. I pushed for $150. SB shaking his head and reach his
pocket ready for rebuy. MP tanked for another 3 mins and folded. Showed his
KK.
River a xh. I improved my hand to flush. I thought the pot was in my pocket.
However, SB jumped up & down, then he showed his JhTh. WTF?
SB asked me to show my hand. I could refuse it at the time but decide to
show. The table certainly got active and say they couldn't put us on these
two hands.
I asked SB how could you cold call 3 bet OOP with this hand, he insisted he
kind knew I was making a play. Another WTF. I didn't even bother to ask MP
how could he just flat call with his KK OOP...
After this freakish hand, the table suddenly came alive. We had 3 all-in in
next 20 mins, including AK vs TT with K T 9 board and AK hit runner runner
full house; AK high shipped all-in with 6 6 5 board got called by my 88s,
and sucked out on river; AK and KQ preflop 100 bb, and KQ hit Q on the flop
... It was fun though.
In the end, I came out ok. could have won more if I was a little more lucky.
But the moral of the story is: I can't be Tom Dwan.
W********m
发帖数: 7793
2
In all seriousness, Dwan would have reshoved on the flop, got tanked called
by MP and won the side pot......
More importantly, how is the blender???
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
z******n
发帖数: 8851
3
Fixed deck, you had 8h5h, and the river was 8h! nobody said anything, haha...
guess you had 6h5h...

and
brand
me
2/
play

【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Weekend headed to Casino, they gave away blenders to selected customers and
: I was selected (hint: VIP, long term loyal customers, and suckers). A brand
: new blender? Weeee... Sweet. LP had no reason to stop me now but letting me
: go. I am piking up her Kitchen ware, for Gods sake.
: Of course, there might be poker. Nowadays I played a lot NL 1/2, very few 2/
: 5 because I am afraid of swing, and no time to get back because I don't play
: long session.
: Anyway, sitting down at a typical 1/2 table, a lot of limp but no calling
: station. My card dead for a while. After a few stealing without any
: resistance, my Tom Dwan fantasy became to occupy my brain, whenever it

T*********k
发帖数: 1621
4
I was debating about shoving flop or just calling in position. After all, I
still prefer flat call because a couple reasons:
1. I only shove on a draw if I think I was getting decent folding equity. In
this case, I think the chance of MP folding was slim after he already put $
120 with only 270+ to call my all-in bet. The pot is big enough. In all
cases, looks like I have to hit my draw to win.
2. Without folding equity, I always prefer a made hand rather than a draw. I
see many times ppl pushes their strong draws, and blank turn and river and
lost whole stack.
3. If I pushed all-in and got called (very likely scenario), I got to see
two cards to hit my draw. However, if I just called, looks like MP suspected
I had a big hand because 1) I was the preflop aggressor and 2) I also
called SB All-in bet, good chance he will check turn even a blank card hit.
In these case, I can also check and see the river card for free, with far
more less money invested. Big difference if I played this hand OOP.
4. Even I blank both turn and river, I only lost $120 vs $420 in one hand,
big difference in NL 1/2, $120 was very manageable and I could still turn a
decent profit after the session, as I did. Can't say it about $420 in a 5-6
hours session. Very hard to fill that hole and then make meaningful profit
unless my luck turns around quickly.
T*********k
发帖数: 1621
5
Thanks for pointing out. Typo. Fixed in the original post.

...

【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: Fixed deck, you had 8h5h, and the river was 8h! nobody said anything, haha...
: guess you had 6h5h...
:
: and
: brand
: me
: 2/
: play

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
6
yes, and never try to mimic him, in the end, we are NOT him.
besides strong skills, his play is based on a lot of other factors too. in
stupid 1/2, if you only seem to know skill A but fail to play with stack B,
player C, position D, check raise on E, ... and a stone cold heart to lose a
$100K pot, then forget about it! lol, there're plenty of weak spots for you
to pick up.
easy heart is everything in this little game. living close to a big poker
room is golden, oh yeah! i wouldn't mind to hit and run a couple hundred in
one hour or be a little stuck these days. i can always come back tomorrow
night and find another easier or tilting table.

and
brand
me
2/
play

【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Weekend headed to Casino, they gave away blenders to selected customers and
: I was selected (hint: VIP, long term loyal customers, and suckers). A brand
: new blender? Weeee... Sweet. LP had no reason to stop me now but letting me
: go. I am piking up her Kitchen ware, for Gods sake.
: Of course, there might be poker. Nowadays I played a lot NL 1/2, very few 2/
: 5 because I am afraid of swing, and no time to get back because I don't play
: long session.
: Anyway, sitting down at a typical 1/2 table, a lot of limp but no calling
: station. My card dead for a while. After a few stealing without any
: resistance, my Tom Dwan fantasy became to occupy my brain, whenever it

T*********k
发帖数: 1621
7
Your shameless BSO made me want to vomit.
How somebody can get so lucky? Having a poker room near your home is like
having a secondary job only your office is next door. I think most ppl here
can beat NL 1/2 game. The best of all, the second income is totally tax free
! (well, unless you want to pay tax).
Rely on politicians is useless. Even though NY passed gambling law, they
outlawed Casino near the city for at least 5 years, and only allow Casino to
open in up and west of the state, which is 2+hours away from the city. What
good is that for? Totally garbage.
The US gov as a whole is pure garbage. Brick and mortar Casinos opening up
around the country like candy stores, yet, online gambling still outlawed
based on some laws passed by red necks arguing moral reasons. Just legalized
everything and tax it, damn it.

oh yeah! i wouldn't mind to hit and run a couple hundred in

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: yes, and never try to mimic him, in the end, we are NOT him.
: besides strong skills, his play is based on a lot of other factors too. in
: stupid 1/2, if you only seem to know skill A but fail to play with stack B,
: player C, position D, check raise on E, ... and a stone cold heart to lose a
: $100K pot, then forget about it! lol, there're plenty of weak spots for you
: to pick up.
: easy heart is everything in this little game. living close to a big poker
: room is golden, oh yeah! i wouldn't mind to hit and run a couple hundred in
: one hour or be a little stuck these days. i can always come back tomorrow
: night and find another easier or tilting table.

E*******r
发帖数: 520
8
这句话绝对带有主观感情色彩!
用在所有赌棒棒身上,都是伪命题。
抱阔一楼,MM还有Fryking。。。
W********m
发帖数: 7793
9
Haha. 现在才发现哥的发帖style 其实受了很大前斑竹的影响。 想当年哥BBS 小白
。 上来就混排版, 尼玛被那喜欢低调BSO的丫给带坏了。 上次丫BSO 股票YTD 200%
被哥转到股版后, 满大街追着哥要删贴太搞笑了。哥决定以后发帖不再受前斑竹影响
了!

here
free
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Your shameless BSO made me want to vomit.
: How somebody can get so lucky? Having a poker room near your home is like
: having a secondary job only your office is next door. I think most ppl here
: can beat NL 1/2 game. The best of all, the second income is totally tax free
: ! (well, unless you want to pay tax).
: Rely on politicians is useless. Even though NY passed gambling law, they
: outlawed Casino near the city for at least 5 years, and only allow Casino to
: open in up and west of the state, which is 2+hours away from the city. What
: good is that for? Totally garbage.
: The US gov as a whole is pure garbage. Brick and mortar Casinos opening up

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
10
擅自乱转贴还好意思说,这个要鄙视一下,呵呵。

200%

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Haha. 现在才发现哥的发帖style 其实受了很大前斑竹的影响。 想当年哥BBS 小白
: 。 上来就混排版, 尼玛被那喜欢低调BSO的丫给带坏了。 上次丫BSO 股票YTD 200%
: 被哥转到股版后, 满大街追着哥要删贴太搞笑了。哥决定以后发帖不再受前斑竹影响
: 了!
:
: here
: free
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

相关主题
2012 wsop 见闻sigh, need luck for this one
我原来在 villian 眼中是这么的 weak,今天被 Tom Dwan 了无数my live game hand
下次版聚去澳门应了那句话
进入TexasHoldem版参与讨论
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
11
hehe, for 90%+ of ppl, it's a "job":
1) pays minimum wage if you're lucky;
2) has to work night/weekend shift, prime time;
3) has to spend time and pay your "boss" instead on a rainy day;
4) ...
someone said there's a pro crying on the stairs a few nights ago, he lost
about $5K that night and the whole table was mean to him. well, reality is
brutal sometimes.

here
free
to
What

【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Your shameless BSO made me want to vomit.
: How somebody can get so lucky? Having a poker room near your home is like
: having a secondary job only your office is next door. I think most ppl here
: can beat NL 1/2 game. The best of all, the second income is totally tax free
: ! (well, unless you want to pay tax).
: Rely on politicians is useless. Even though NY passed gambling law, they
: outlawed Casino near the city for at least 5 years, and only allow Casino to
: open in up and west of the state, which is 2+hours away from the city. What
: good is that for? Totally garbage.
: The US gov as a whole is pure garbage. Brick and mortar Casinos opening up

T*********k
发帖数: 1621
12
I said a secondary job, I didn't say the job.
Just like stock trading, if it is your secondary income, it is a lot less
stressful. However, if it is your only income, then it is totally different.
I can't never playing poker for living. To make a good living, 1/2 or 2/5
games is not gonna cut it. You have to beat higher stake. However, those
stake players are better, pool is small and fish is few. I remember read an
interview from Ben Lamb, he said there are only 1 or 2 good high stakes game
every month, sometimes even two months, when it happens, it fills very
quickly and you can't get in.
I can imagine a lot of those Pros will have side jobs, or other investing .
Like investing housing and collect rent as steady income. After all, Las
Vegas housing market is rebounding very fast.

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: hehe, for 90%+ of ppl, it's a "job":
: 1) pays minimum wage if you're lucky;
: 2) has to work night/weekend shift, prime time;
: 3) has to spend time and pay your "boss" instead on a rainy day;
: 4) ...
: someone said there's a pro crying on the stairs a few nights ago, he lost
: about $5K that night and the whole table was mean to him. well, reality is
: brutal sometimes.
:
: here

W********m
发帖数: 7793
13
It has been proven that it is not true for 本版主。 when I try to be Tom
Dwan, I run like Tom Dwan too~
==========================================
Merge $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players -
Hero (BB): $151.61
UTG: $68.44
UTG+1: $98.50
MP1: $100.00
MP2: $100.00
CO: $202.59
BTN: $95.34
SB: $100.93
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 9d 8h
5 folds, BTN raises to $3, SB calls $2.50, Hero raises to $13.50, 1 fold, SB
calls $10.50
Flop: ($30.00) Th 6h 7c (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18.00, SB calls $18
Turn: ($66.00) 4s (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $120.11, SB calls $69.43 all in
River: ($204.86) 2d (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $204.86
Hero shows 9d 8h
SB shows Ad Qc
Hero wins $150.18
Hero wins $50.68
(Rake: $4.00)
BAM!

【在 E*******r 的大作中提到】
: 这句话绝对带有主观感情色彩!
: 用在所有赌棒棒身上,都是伪命题。
: 抱阔一楼,MM还有Fryking。。。

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
14
hehe, i was talking about a side job too. it's nothing more than you go to
macdonald's for a few hours after your regular job, except that sometimes we
don't make a penny and instead, "accidentally" lose a day's pay from our
regular job as well.
without online, forget about the idea of "job", FT or PT.

different.
an
game
.

【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: I said a secondary job, I didn't say the job.
: Just like stock trading, if it is your secondary income, it is a lot less
: stressful. However, if it is your only income, then it is totally different.
: I can't never playing poker for living. To make a good living, 1/2 or 2/5
: games is not gonna cut it. You have to beat higher stake. However, those
: stake players are better, pool is small and fish is few. I remember read an
: interview from Ben Lamb, he said there are only 1 or 2 good high stakes game
: every month, sometimes even two months, when it happens, it fills very
: quickly and you can't get in.
: I can imagine a lot of those Pros will have side jobs, or other investing .

T*********k
发帖数: 1621
15
切,Make a move, flop nuts and paid off by Donk 早就 out 了。要当 Tom Dwan
就要 OOP, fire turn, call raise and stone cold bluff at river, STONE COLD!!!
有木有
Hand#3453019810000065 - Chelsea (6-Max) 19810 -- $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em -- 2013
/09/17 - 20:39:32
Dealer: Seat 3
Seat 1: xingqing ($28 in chips)
Seat 2: *AceHigh* ($128.03 in chips)
Seat 3: JoeyKnish22 ($138.96 in chips)
Seat 8: maloku ($166.51 in chips)
Seat 9: SEMIDIO ($164.84 in chips)
Seat 10: Hero ($153.61 in chips)
maloku: posts small blind $0.50
SEMIDIO: posts big blind $1
Dealt to Hero [Jh,Qh]
Hero: raises to $3.50
xingqing: folds
*AceHigh*: raises to $10
JoeyKnish22: folds
maloku: folds
SEMIDIO: folds
Hero: calls $6.50
*** FLOP *** [5c,Ts,2d]
Hero: checks
*AceHigh*: checks
*** TURN *** [9c]
Hero: bets $15
*AceHigh*: raises to $30
Hero: calls $15
*** RIVER *** [4d]
Hero: bets $81.50
*AceHigh*: folds
Hero: returns uncalled bet $81.50
***SHOW DOWN***
Hero: mucks
Hero wins $78.50

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: It has been proven that it is not true for 本版主。 when I try to be Tom
: Dwan, I run like Tom Dwan too~
: ==========================================
: Merge $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players -
: Hero (BB): $151.61
: UTG: $68.44
: UTG+1: $98.50
: MP1: $100.00
: MP2: $100.00
: CO: $202.59

H****r
发帖数: 2801
16
At least u tried...

and
brand
me
2/
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Weekend headed to Casino, they gave away blenders to selected customers and
: I was selected (hint: VIP, long term loyal customers, and suckers). A brand
: new blender? Weeee... Sweet. LP had no reason to stop me now but letting me
: go. I am piking up her Kitchen ware, for Gods sake.
: Of course, there might be poker. Nowadays I played a lot NL 1/2, very few 2/
: 5 because I am afraid of swing, and no time to get back because I don't play
: long session.
: Anyway, sitting down at a typical 1/2 table, a lot of limp but no calling
: station. My card dead for a while. After a few stealing without any
: resistance, my Tom Dwan fantasy became to occupy my brain, whenever it

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同样在打micro. 同人家比真的还差好远how to maximize value SAFELY
早上起来打了十分钟,越来越糊涂了2012 wsop 见闻
Live hand 1$/2$我原来在 villian 眼中是这么的 weak,今天被 Tom Dwan 了无数
I am learning to use hand history convertor..下次版聚去澳门
这牌怎么打?sigh, need luck for this one
Is it a good move?my live game hand
What to do?应了那句话
short stack, bottom pair push两手挺疯的牌。。
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