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p******a
发帖数: 975
1
Villian is a very solid reg on ACR, a little bit on the nitty side. I've
played over 2k hands with him. So, he should have some read on me as well.
He opens UTG, range about 20, which is kind of wide. I call on the button
with 55, completely standard.
Flop AQQ. He checks on the flop OOP.
He is a little bit nitty on the flop, also since I am very aggressive, I
assume he can check all his weak Ace, any pocket pair on this flop. Since
this flop is very dry, I expect him to bet his nothing hand.I have some
showdown value, and I think he will call with his entire value range, so I
check.
Turn is T, brought a possible flush draw. He checks again.
This point, things started to become weird. Since I expect he will bet his
weak Ace to get value from my JT or KT type hand. Or get some value from my
possible draws. I feel that he either has slow played nuts AA, QQ type hand,
or he had a small pocket pair try to get show down. I bet quite large into
him,planning to fire again on whatever river to fold his weak ace and small
pocket pairs, which is the majority of his range. He calls.
River comes 5. He checks again.
Now I'm betting for value. And he check-raised.WTF. My first instinct was
that I was beaten. I don't expect he can bluff with nothing or turn his weak
Ace into bluff. His range is of pure nuts at this point. AA/QQ/TT/AQ. Since
I bet strong on turn and river, I think he puts me on bluff or at least
trips (I will definitely bet on this river with anything, but doesn't mean
he knows). The thing I was not very sure at that point was if he can have
straight in his range. Since I was playing 6-table stack at that point, I
don't have time to think it
through, and it's just difficult to fold a boat. So, I called, and he showed
AQ.
When I was reviewing this hand today, I realized that straight was not in
his range. With straight and his flop style, he will definitely bluff bet.
And there is not way he can check again on the turn to give me a free show
down or a free card to complete my possible flush.
This is exactly why he should balance his range, since as played his range
is pure nuts. I SHOULD be able to fold my bottom boat if I have a better
monitor or only playing 2 tables (again, doesn't mean I CAN). This is also
why you don't really need to, because it's just so difficult for NL100
players to fold a boat....
Overall, I like my turn and river bet. But I really should bet fold OTR.
On the other hand, I think he played this hand poorly, not because his
unbalanced range, but his river raise size. Whatever hand I have that will
call his $56 raise, will also call his shove. If I have AA in my range and
re-raise I don't think he can fold his AQ either. So, he should either raise
small to attract my Ace or trip Q hand (No way I can call his $56 raise
with anything worse than a straight as analyzed), or he should shove to get
value from the type of hand I have.
By call reckless call OTR I lost $42, but by not shoving for value he lost $
60.
c*****t
发帖数: 817
2
烂玩家就是这个特点。不知道什么时候可以overbet for value。
比如拿着AK这种坚果在AAKT9这种board上。搞个两倍三倍的pot size完全没问题。敌人
fold不掉就是fold不掉。
我以前有次直接推了4倍pot。当然是tourney了。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/TexasHoldem/31234273.html
M********g
发帖数: 717
3
好文章,把思路解释的很清晰

【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: Villian is a very solid reg on ACR, a little bit on the nitty side. I've
: played over 2k hands with him. So, he should have some read on me as well.
: He opens UTG, range about 20, which is kind of wide. I call on the button
: with 55, completely standard.
: Flop AQQ. He checks on the flop OOP.
: He is a little bit nitty on the flop, also since I am very aggressive, I
: assume he can check all his weak Ace, any pocket pair on this flop. Since
: this flop is very dry, I expect him to bet his nothing hand.I have some
: showdown value, and I think he will call with his entire value range, so I
: check.

W********m
发帖数: 7793
4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ds3ro0rZ9M
main event fish-pro also makes the same mistake.
y********n
发帖数: 2063
5
比如拿着AK这种坚果在AAKT9这种board上。
====>这种牌只能check.原因:你吧所有的好牌都抓去了,你下注,他没法call。如果
他有大牌,会自动下注。

【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: 烂玩家就是这个特点。不知道什么时候可以overbet for value。
: 比如拿着AK这种坚果在AAKT9这种board上。搞个两倍三倍的pot size完全没问题。敌人
: fold不掉就是fold不掉。
: 我以前有次直接推了4倍pot。当然是tourney了。
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/TexasHoldem/31234273.html

y********n
发帖数: 2063
6
个人觉得tourney hand基本上不用考虑balance, 因为每手牌的dynamic都不一样,和
cash hand完全不同。就按照利润最大化来打好了。
这手牌除了33河牌call re-raise打错了,其他打得都没问题。Timosenkov 打得就是完
美级,原因:如果他在河牌下个很大的注,对手只能call. 结果他下半个底池,这个下
注是完美的,基本上能让对手call with AQ,KT,AK。re-raise 其他FULL ho
use。我觉得33在前面几条街绝对没打错,只是最后的call太差。
考虑到打了很长时间,头脑有点昏,如果Timosenkov以前还有bluff的
嫌疑,那么这个bad call也是可以理解的。

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ds3ro0rZ9M
: main event fish-pro also makes the same mistake.

c*****t
发帖数: 817
7
同意。paired board先check是绝对的。因为他有trip以上会自动下注。他没trip你
check他
可以bluff。但是check raise的时候绝对要over shove。他call不了的话,少了也call
不了。他call得了的话。3x pot他也call了。我自己的那把牌就这么打的。

【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: 比如拿着AK这种坚果在AAKT9这种board上。
: ====>这种牌只能check.原因:你吧所有的好牌都抓去了,你下注,他没法call。如果
: 他有大牌,会自动下注。

z******n
发帖数: 8851
8
贴子写得很棒,分析得有理有据,还有转换图,赞!
In ACR, too many nitty players, river over-shoving usually means nuts, every
one wants to get max value,if he shoved, he may fear you may fold, this guy
is good, played with him last night:)

【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: Villian is a very solid reg on ACR, a little bit on the nitty side. I've
: played over 2k hands with him. So, he should have some read on me as well.
: He opens UTG, range about 20, which is kind of wide. I call on the button
: with 55, completely standard.
: Flop AQQ. He checks on the flop OOP.
: He is a little bit nitty on the flop, also since I am very aggressive, I
: assume he can check all his weak Ace, any pocket pair on this flop. Since
: this flop is very dry, I expect him to bet his nothing hand.I have some
: showdown value, and I think he will call with his entire value range, so I
: check.

T*********k
发帖数: 1621
9
Playing ACR really need to focus you mind, fish is few, even small stack
fish
usually are just playing loose but not dumb enough to donate money. Of
course I can
still win money but those are really hard earned and not worth the time I
spent.
Last night played half hours NL200 in Lock, it was a zoo. ppl 4-bet KT off,
$58 each 3-ways pre-flop, beaten by another guy called with K7o.
I played short stack for half hours, won $300+ and hit and ran. Better
result than my 3-days grind in ACR.
God, you can have all those range, balance range BS all you like, I am crazy
for easy and action game. A poker game sitting with bunch of nit is torture
.
d*****0
发帖数: 1500
10

,
live 1/2 is softest game ever,但是不代表一定会赢钱,且一定赢不了大钱

【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Playing ACR really need to focus you mind, fish is few, even small stack
: fish
: usually are just playing loose but not dumb enough to donate money. Of
: course I can
: still win money but those are really hard earned and not worth the time I
: spent.
: Last night played half hours NL200 in Lock, it was a zoo. ppl 4-bet KT off,
: $58 each 3-ways pre-flop, beaten by another guy called with K7o.
: I played short stack for half hours, won $300+ and hit and ran. Better
: result than my 3-days grind in ACR.

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T*********k
发帖数: 1621
11
Best game are those soft action game. They let you see a lot of flop and
when you made a monster, they gave you a lot of actions.
Unfortunately those game are less and less.
True, u may still lose money or win little, but odds still better than table
has no actions
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
12
MDL still offers soft 1/2NL 24x7, grab a seat pls.

table

【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Best game are those soft action game. They let you see a lot of flop and
: when you made a monster, they gave you a lot of actions.
: Unfortunately those game are less and less.
: True, u may still lose money or win little, but odds still better than table
: has no actions

W********m
发帖数: 7793
13
股神是不是在MDL 入股啦? 这么热心得拉客。。。

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: MDL still offers soft 1/2NL 24x7, grab a seat pls.
:
: table

T*********k
发帖数: 1621
14
You can organize the board meeting. Then we can come, even that means three
hours drive.

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: MDL still offers soft 1/2NL 24x7, grab a seat pls.
:
: table

s*********r
发帖数: 4210
15
虽然股神的话不能全信, 这次说得很对. 大家赶快去抓鱼. 万一看到一个鱼是位有点脸
熟的中国人,就手下留情哦.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 股神是不是在MDL 入股啦? 这么热心得拉客。。。
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
16
FT, why 不能全信? every line of my words is GOLD!
actually MDL is a project eligible for EB5 investment immigration, imagine
how hot this is. my friend was late to know about it when a korean group was
raising funds around.

【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: 虽然股神的话不能全信, 这次说得很对. 大家赶快去抓鱼. 万一看到一个鱼是位有点脸
: 熟的中国人,就手下留情哦.

W********m
发帖数: 7793
17
抓得就是你们这些中年秃头猥琐男
--popokaka

【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: 虽然股神的话不能全信, 这次说得很对. 大家赶快去抓鱼. 万一看到一个鱼是位有点脸
: 熟的中国人,就手下留情哦.

s*********r
发帖数: 4210
18
比如,那些2/5上的asian ppmm. 我一个都没看到啊. 这个EB5是不是有regional center
支持啊? 你不是说周末不去MDL吗? 怎么去看漂亮ppmm去了?

was

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: FT, why 不能全信? every line of my words is GOLD!
: actually MDL is a project eligible for EB5 investment immigration, imagine
: how hot this is. my friend was late to know about it when a korean group was
: raising funds around.

s*********r
发帖数: 4210
19
是谁在这里骂人? 请版主关门,放狗,封id :)

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 抓得就是你们这些中年秃头猥琐男
: --popokaka

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