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J*******g
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十一
我童年时代已经听到我们的主、天主谦逊俯就我们的骄傲而许诺给与的永生。我的母亲
是非常信望你的,我一出母胎便已给我划上十字的记号,并受你的盐的调理。[22]
主,你也看到我童年时,一天由于胃痛,突然发热,濒 于死亡;我的天主,你既然
是我的守护者,你也看到我怀着多大热情和多大信心,向我的母亲,向我们全体的母亲
、你的教会要求给我施行你的基督、我的主和我的天主的“洗礼”。
我的生身之母,忧心如捣,更愿意用她纯洁的心灵将我永久的生命诞生于你的信仰之中
;她急急筹备为我施行使人得救的“洗礼”,希望我承认你、主耶稣而获得罪恶的赦免
。但我的病霍然而愈,“洗礼”亦因此中止,好像我仍然活着,则必须仍然沾受罪恶,
因为顾虑我受洗后如再陷入罪秽,则罪责将更严重,危害性也更大。
这时我、我的母亲和合家都已有信仰,只有父亲一人除外;但他并不能胜过慈母在我身
上的权力,使我和他一样不信基督;因为我的母亲是竭力使你、我的天主,使你成为我
的父亲,她宁愿你做我的父亲;你也帮助她使她优越于她的丈夫,更好地服侍丈夫,因
为你命她如此,她这样做也就是服侍你。
我求你,我的天主,我愿知道为何使我延期受洗礼,是否为了我的利益而放松犯罪的羁
绊?为何我至今还到处听到对于某人、某人说这样的话:“听凭他,由他做去,他还没
有受洗礼。”但对于肉体的健康,我们不说:“让他再受些伤,因为他还没有痊愈。”
倘我灵魂早些治愈,则我自己和家人定必更努力使得救后的我在你的庇护中获得安全,
这岂不是更好吗?
这当然更好。但在我童年之后,险恶的风波胁迫我、考验我,母亲早已料到,她宁愿让
泥土去遭受风波,以后再加搏塑,不愿已经成形的肖像遭受蹂躏。
[22] 译者按:这是指当时对“望教者”(即有志奉基督教者)举行的一种宗教仪式,
并非正式入教时举行的“洗礼”。奥氏在所著《论怎样向不明教义的人讲授教义》一书
中, 也提到这仪式。现代天主教“洗礼”的第一部分尚保留着这仪式的痕迹,主要是
主礼者以手 指在望教者的额上和胸前划一“十字”,并以少许食盐置于望教者口中。
CHAPTER XI
17. Even as a boy I had heard of eternal life promised to us through the
humility of the Lord our God, who came down to visit us in our pride, and I
was signed with the sign of his cross, and was seasoned with his salt even
from the womb of my mother, who greatly trusted in thee. Thou didst see, O
Lord, how, once, while I was still a child, I was suddenly seized with
stomach pains and was at the point of death--thou didst see, O my God, for
even then thou wast my keeper, with what agitation and with what faith I
solicited from the piety of my mother and from thy Church (which is the
mother of us all) the baptism of thy Christ, my Lord and my God. The mother
of my flesh was much perplexed, for, with a heart pure in thy faith, she was
always in deep travail for my eternal salvation. If I had not quickly
recovered, she would have provided forthwith for my initiation and washing
by thy life-giving sacraments, confessing thee, O Lord Jesus, for the
forgiveness of sins. So my cleansing was deferred, as if it were inevitable
that, if I should live, I would be further polluted; and, further, because
the guilt contracted by sin after baptism would be still greater and more
perilous.
Thus, at that time, I “believed” along with my mother and the whole
household, except my father. But he did not overcome the influence of my
mother’s piety in me, nor did he prevent my believing in Christ, although
he had not yet believed in him. For it was her desire, O my God, that I
should acknowledge thee as my Father rather than him. In this thou didst aid
her to overcome her husband, to whom, though his superior, she yielded
obedience. In this way she also yielded obedience to thee, who dost so
command.
18. I ask thee, O my God, for I would gladly know if it be thy will, to what
good end my baptism was deferred at that time? Was it indeed for my good
that the reins were slackened, as it were, to encourage me in sin? Or, were
they not slackened? If not, then why is it still dinned into our ears on all
sides, “Let him alone, let him do as he pleases, for he is not yet
baptized”? In the matter of bodily health, no one says, “Let him alone;
let him be worse wounded; for he is not yet cured”! How much better, then,
would it have been for me to have been cured at once--and if thereafter,
through the diligent care of friends and myself, my soul’s restored health
had been kept safe in thy keeping, who gave it in the first place! This
would have been far better, in truth. But how many and great the waves of
temptation which appeared to hang over me as I grew out of childhood! These
were foreseen by my mother, and she preferred that the unformed clay should
be risked to them rather than the clay molded after Christ’s image.
c*******u
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划上十字的记号是天主教,我们常说为你祷告,心里默念互相掂记
J*******g
发帖数: 8775
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“我的生身之母,忧心如捣,更愿意用她纯洁的心灵将我永久的生命诞生于你的信仰之中
;她急急筹备为我施行使人得救的“洗礼”,希望我承认你、主耶稣而获得罪恶的赦免
。但我的病霍然而愈,“洗礼”亦因此中止,好像我仍然活着,则必须仍然沾受罪恶,
因为顾虑我受洗后如再陷入罪秽,则罪责将更严重,危害性也更大。”

【在 J*******g 的大作中提到】
: 十一
: 我童年时代已经听到我们的主、天主谦逊俯就我们的骄傲而许诺给与的永生。我的母亲
: 是非常信望你的,我一出母胎便已给我划上十字的记号,并受你的盐的调理。[22]
: 主,你也看到我童年时,一天由于胃痛,突然发热,濒 于死亡;我的天主,你既然
: 是我的守护者,你也看到我怀着多大热情和多大信心,向我的母亲,向我们全体的母亲
: 、你的教会要求给我施行你的基督、我的主和我的天主的“洗礼”。
: 我的生身之母,忧心如捣,更愿意用她纯洁的心灵将我永久的生命诞生于你的信仰之中
: ;她急急筹备为我施行使人得救的“洗礼”,希望我承认你、主耶稣而获得罪恶的赦免
: 。但我的病霍然而愈,“洗礼”亦因此中止,好像我仍然活着,则必须仍然沾受罪恶,
: 因为顾虑我受洗后如再陷入罪秽,则罪责将更严重,危害性也更大。

c*******u
发帖数: 640
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洗礼!赞美主!谁可听得那娄阿鼠淹没在污秽中上气不接下气,做着最后的挣扎?
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