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TrustInJesus版 - Does Philippians 2:6, 7 prove the Trinity?
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s***u
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Philippians 2:6, 7
"Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant,
and was made in the likeness of men."
Problem:
Great stress is placed on "morphe" (the Greek word for form) by trinitarians
and others like the J.W.'s who teach that Christ had a pre-human existence.
It is argued that "in the form of God" means that Christ had the nature of
God before his birth, and it was this which he sacrificed in coming to the e
arth to live as a human.
Solution:
If "in the form of God" means the very nature of God, then Christ could not
have been "Very God" while on earth, as trinitarians assert, since this is w
hat he is said to have sacrificed and left behind in coming to the earth.
The Greek word "morphe" (translated "form") does not refer to "essential nat
ure" as the trinitarian cause requires. This is proven by the following:
"Eidos", not "morphe" is the Greek word which conveys the idea of "essential
nature". As Liddell and Scott point out in their lexicon, "morphe" means fo
rm, shape, fine, beautiful form or shape, figure, fashion, appearance, outwa
rd form or semblance. It is opposed to "eidos" which means "true form".
In the context of this passage, it is stated that Christ "took upon him the
form of a servant" (vs. 7). But what is the form of a servant (Grk. "doulos"
, a slave)? The "essential nature" of a slave is the same as that of any oth
er human being. The form, therefore, must refer to the semblance or demeanou
r of a slave as the distinguishing characteristic.
"Morphe" occurs in only one other place in the N.T. - Mark 16:12, and here i
t clearly does not mean "essential nature". Jesus appeared "in another form"
, but this could not refer to a change of his essential nature since the rea
son why he appeared to be in another form was because the disciples' "eyes w
ere holden". (Luke 24:16 cf. vs. 31). Not even a trinitarian or a J.W. would
be prepared to say that Christ's essential nature was changed after his res
urrection and glorification.
How was Christ in the form of God? He had the semblance and demeanour of the
Father mentally and morally. His character was the express image of his Fat
her's person. (Heb. 1:3).
Sometimes trinitarians stress that Christ was originally in the form of God
- i.e., "being" in the form of God is taken to mean that he was in fact "Ver
y God" before his "incarnation". The Greek verb "huparchon" refutes this pos
ition since it is in the imperfect tense which expresses action yet, or stil
l in course of performance. Time signified by an imperfect tense is of a con
tinual, habitual, repeated action, so that "being in the form of God" means
"being, and continuing to be in the form of God". Christ never ceased to be
in the form of God since in semblance and demeanour from his birth he habitu
ally exemplified his Father's character. Note the use of "huparchon" in the
following passages:
Acts 2:30 - "Therefore being a prophet does not mean "being originally befor
e birth a prophet", but rather a prophet and continuing to be such.
1 Cor. 11:7 - "Forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God" does not mean
"being originally before he was born the image and glory of God", but rather
being the image of God and continuing to be.
Gal. 2:14 - "If thou being a Jew" does not mean "being originally before his
birth as a Jew", but rather if you from the start and continuing to be a Je
w.
"Thought it not robbery to be equal with God" is generally acknowledged to b
e a poor translation. The R.S.V. reads as follows: "He did not count equalit
y with God a thing to be grasped." Unlike Eve who grasped after the fruit wh
ich was to be desired to make one like God (the "elohim") to know good and e
vil, Jesus refused to take the kingdoms of the world without the crucifixion
of the flesh and the declaration of the righteousness of his Father. In the
Garden of Gethsemane he subjected his will to his Father's, not arrogating
to himself prerogatives that rightly belonged to his Father. (Matt. 26:39).
How did Christ take the form of a servant (slave)? Two passages supply the a
nswer:
"If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wa
sh one another's feet." (John 13:14).
"Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffe
red. And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto
all them that obey him." (Hebrews 5:8, 9).
Although Christ was in the form of God in his semblance and demeanour, he to
ok on him the semblance and demeanour of a slave.
"He humbled himself"; "he emptied himself" R.S.V. (vs. 8), refers to Christ'
s deliberate choice to submit his will to that of his Father. Christ was wor
shipped (Matt. 8:2; 9:18), performed the works of God (John 10:37-38), and f
orgave sins (Matthew 9:2), but he never arrogated to himself authority which
had not been delegated to him by the Father. In so doing his example was a
powerful lesson in humility to the Philippians. But if Christ "being origina
lly, before his birth, while he was in heaven in the form (essential nature)
of God thought at his birth, when he descended into the womb, not to be equ
al with God, but left the form of God",1 where is humility demonstrated?
Footnotes:
This is the way in which Phil. 2:6 is read by trinitarians. See A.B. Bruce,
The Humiliation of Christ, (Edinburgh: T. and T. Clarke, 1889), pp. 1-23. Re
turn
s***u
发帖数: 1911
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trinity is an insult to Christianity
f********7
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Thanks for sharing

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【在 s***u 的大作中提到】
: Philippians 2:6, 7
: "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant,
: and was made in the likeness of men."
: Problem:
: Great stress is placed on "morphe" (the Greek word for form) by trinitarians
: and others like the J.W.'s who teach that Christ had a pre-human existence.
: It is argued that "in the form of God" means that Christ had the nature of
: God before his birth, and it was this which he sacrificed in coming to the e
: arth to live as a human.

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