m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 1 谁度知道年轻的时候得大病的概率很低。交保险就是吃亏了的。所以你就决定不交保险
是对你有利的。但是当你年纪大的时候，你无病无灾的屈死的概率就不到1%。所以到时
候就想买便宜的保险。不想想如果每个人独像你这样，那你年轻的保险是一万。年纪大
的时候保险就是20万了。该你们总结一下，就是现在想多花钱，年级大了当计生虫。你
想当计生虫就当，但不要拿自由说是。 |
a***o
发帖数: 3734 | 2 我觉得你在战风车。这里的人基本上认为买保险是你的个人行为，
爱买就买，想买就自己出钱，别让别人给你付帐，不买就别生病，
生了病就抗着，总之是自己靠自己。 |
l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 3 楼主现在的一大进步就是不写蹩脚的英文了.可喜可贺.
不过思想上还是有点nc,没办法.别人怎么说的? you can't fix stupid. |
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 4 They know that we will have to cover their ass when they are ill. I have
medicare and medicaid system and our hospitals have to care the sick in the
emergency room. The key is that most people will not 生了病就抗着.this is
one of the reason why this system is broken. Too many free riders who can
pay but do not want to share the burden of this society. Race to the bottom
continue without reform.
【在 a***o 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得你在战风车。这里的人基本上认为买保险是你的个人行为，
: 爱买就买，想买就自己出钱，别让别人给你付帐，不买就别生病，
: 生了病就抗着，总之是自己靠自己。
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 5 Basically I have no desire to talk with selfless and shameless people like
you. You want free lunch and still believe you are noble.
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 楼主现在的一大进步就是不写蹩脚的英文了.可喜可贺.
: 不过思想上还是有点nc,没办法.别人怎么说的? you can't fix stupid.
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o******l
发帖数: 2324 | 6 关键问题不是自私不自私，而是这个系统能维持多久。
俺们现在是年轻的时候交了钱，20-30年后谁知道这个系统有没有破产？我现在就很怀
疑现在交的Social Security等我老的时候还有没有。 |
a***o
发帖数: 3734 | 7 of course not. Social Security 就是最大的ponzi scheme。
【在 o******l 的大作中提到】
: 关键问题不是自私不自私，而是这个系统能维持多久。
: 俺们现在是年轻的时候交了钱，20-30年后谁知道这个系统有没有破产？我现在就很怀
: 疑现在交的Social Security等我老的时候还有没有。
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 8 Sure we will get nothing if current trend continues. loads of parasites that
believe they are so noble. Please look at the bill, which one is bad for
our middle class.
【在 o******l 的大作中提到】
: 关键问题不是自私不自私，而是这个系统能维持多久。
: 俺们现在是年轻的时候交了钱，20-30年后谁知道这个系统有没有破产？我现在就很怀
: 疑现在交的Social Security等我老的时候还有没有。
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d****i
发帖数: 4354 | 9 现在中产阶级交着社保税,医保税,可是social security和medicare亏空那么利害,到我
们老了还有个屁?这难道不是老年人rob younger generation blind?
同理如果这个法案通过,也相当于一种新的医保税,你年轻时投再多,也不可能保证10年,
20年后你的保险又便宜又好.
我们这里多数人都是有正当职业,都有保险,但是一样支持个人有选择的自由.控制医疗
保险的cost,根本不在于改变pay structure.不管谁多pay一点,根本不影响医疗价格的
不断上涨,反而因为法定人人都要pay in,医疗价格上涨或者服务质量下降会更快.真正
的解决方法是引入更多医疗消费者的控制,价格的透明度,更多的选择和竞争.而不是把
所有人绑起来让保险公司宰.
比如买catatrophic health plan,加health saving account,这个就不错.但是现在法
案通过的话,以后这种就会被法定为不合格的保险,逼着大家买更贵的保险.
你大概是给保险公司打工的吧?这个改革对保险公司最有利.如果不是,送你一句话:
If you forfeit your fr
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: 谁度知道年轻的时候得大病的概率很低。交保险就是吃亏了的。所以你就决定不交保险
: 是对你有利的。但是当你年纪大的时候，你无病无灾的屈死的概率就不到1%。所以到时
: 候就想买便宜的保险。不想想如果每个人独像你这样，那你年轻的保险是一万。年纪大
: 的时候保险就是20万了。该你们总结一下，就是现在想多花钱，年级大了当计生虫。你
: 想当计生虫就当，但不要拿自由说是。
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 10 哈哈...
怎说来着,自以为得意,结果给人草了.useful idiots.
年,
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】
: 现在中产阶级交着社保税,医保税,可是social security和medicare亏空那么利害,到我
: 们老了还有个屁?这难道不是老年人rob younger generation blind?
: 同理如果这个法案通过,也相当于一种新的医保税,你年轻时投再多,也不可能保证10年,
: 20年后你的保险又便宜又好.
: 我们这里多数人都是有正当职业,都有保险,但是一样支持个人有选择的自由.控制医疗
: 保险的cost,根本不在于改变pay structure.不管谁多pay一点,根本不影响医疗价格的
: 不断上涨,反而因为法定人人都要pay in,医疗价格上涨或者服务质量下降会更快.真正
: 的解决方法是引入更多医疗消费者的控制,价格的透明度,更多的选择和竞争.而不是把
: 所有人绑起来让保险公司宰.
: 比如买catatrophic health plan,加health saving account,这个就不错.但是现在法
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 11 it will soon be replaced by healthcare.
i seriously doubt it could survive even for 10 years.
【在 a***o 的大作中提到】
: of course not. Social Security 就是最大的ponzi scheme。
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p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 12 练法轮宫根本不会生病，凭啥要抢人家的钱？
脑瘤李根本不看病，活得好好的。
你太无耻了。
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: 谁度知道年轻的时候得大病的概率很低。交保险就是吃亏了的。所以你就决定不交保险
: 是对你有利的。但是当你年纪大的时候，你无病无灾的屈死的概率就不到1%。所以到时
: 候就想买便宜的保险。不想想如果每个人独像你这样，那你年轻的保险是一万。年纪大
: 的时候保险就是20万了。该你们总结一下，就是现在想多花钱，年级大了当计生虫。你
: 想当计生虫就当，但不要拿自由说是。
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 13 I think I am clear. It is you want to rob me. Not the other way around. You
want to save money now and rob me when you are older.
【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 练法轮宫根本不会生病，凭啥要抢人家的钱？
: 脑瘤李根本不看病，活得好好的。
: 你太无耻了。
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p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 14 那么多一辈子不得病不看病的人，你凭啥要让别人掏钱给你这个贪吃超肥吸毒不干活的
寄生虫黑社会强盗看病？
别人是你爹还是你妈，不给你钱就无耻？
你这是毛主席说的强盗逻辑呀。
你现在是非法移民、是吸毒犯、是贪吃超肥不干活的寄生虫，你现在抢别人钱还说是防
止别的守法劳动者以后抢你的钱？你根本不劳动你哪来的钱？你只有到处抢劫才有钱。
你只有靠政府抢劫其他劳动者才有钱。
你敢不敢说脑瘤李万岁？法轮宫脑有屎。。。
You
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I think I am clear. It is you want to rob me. Not the other way around. You
: want to save money now and rob me when you are older.
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 15 All you want is passing the bills to others while enjoying the welfare
you don't deserve. When being turned down, you start whining. Grow up a
little please.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: 谁度知道年轻的时候得大病的概率很低。交保险就是吃亏了的。所以你就决定不交保险
: 是对你有利的。但是当你年纪大的时候，你无病无灾的屈死的概率就不到1%。所以到时
: 候就想买便宜的保险。不想想如果每个人独像你这样，那你年轻的保险是一万。年纪大
: 的时候保险就是20万了。该你们总结一下，就是现在想多花钱，年级大了当计生虫。你
: 想当计生虫就当，但不要拿自由说是。
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p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 16 果蝇，来详细说说为什么法轮宫不得病不交钱就无耻了？
大伙儿洗耳恭听。
别跑啊。。。 |
p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 17 果蝇，为啥你自搧耳光，要骂法轮宫不得病不交钱无耻？
这个简单问题让你劈叉了吗？ |
l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 18 那种nc你解释的再多也没有用啊.一定要把他的脑袋狠狠的装几下墙才行的.
年,
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】
: 现在中产阶级交着社保税,医保税,可是social security和medicare亏空那么利害,到我
: 们老了还有个屁?这难道不是老年人rob younger generation blind?
: 同理如果这个法案通过,也相当于一种新的医保税,你年轻时投再多,也不可能保证10年,
: 20年后你的保险又便宜又好.
: 我们这里多数人都是有正当职业,都有保险,但是一样支持个人有选择的自由.控制医疗
: 保险的cost,根本不在于改变pay structure.不管谁多pay一点,根本不影响医疗价格的
: 不断上涨,反而因为法定人人都要pay in,医疗价格上涨或者服务质量下降会更快.真正
: 的解决方法是引入更多医疗消费者的控制,价格的透明度,更多的选择和竞争.而不是把
: 所有人绑起来让保险公司宰.
: 比如买catatrophic health plan,加health saving account,这个就不错.但是现在法
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p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 19 问题是你插不上手啊，果蝇这样的法轮宫侯赛因之子左右开弓自搧耳光，他不自搧耳光
到体力不支昏倒在地，大伙儿只能看着呀，呵呵。。。
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 那种nc你解释的再多也没有用啊.一定要把他的脑袋狠狠的装几下墙才行的.
:
: 年,
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 20 Because in your imagination that there has chance not to work, so you do not
want to pay. So we do not have to pay SS, because it has chance to run out
as well. I guess that you like the third world system so much and I wonder
why you do not want to move those countries. You do not have pay anything
and when you are older and sick, you get treatment if you have money. And
let you die if you have no money. I think this is not right.
年,
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】
: 现在中产阶级交着社保税,医保税,可是social security和medicare亏空那么利害,到我
: 们老了还有个屁?这难道不是老年人rob younger generation blind?
: 同理如果这个法案通过,也相当于一种新的医保税,你年轻时投再多,也不可能保证10年,
: 20年后你的保险又便宜又好.
: 我们这里多数人都是有正当职业,都有保险,但是一样支持个人有选择的自由.控制医疗
: 保险的cost,根本不在于改变pay structure.不管谁多pay一点,根本不影响医疗价格的
: 不断上涨,反而因为法定人人都要pay in,医疗价格上涨或者服务质量下降会更快.真正
: 的解决方法是引入更多医疗消费者的控制,价格的透明度,更多的选择和竞争.而不是把
: 所有人绑起来让保险公司宰.
: 比如买catatrophic health plan,加health saving account,这个就不错.但是现在法
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p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 21 在你的幻觉中“政府”大过天了，跪族可以在李师傅的率领下统治宇宙，大伙儿都得给
你们保护费，对吧？
果蝇，千万别醒，现实是残酷的，米国宪法对于你这类的就是敌敌畏呀，呵呵。。。
not
out
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Because in your imagination that there has chance not to work, so you do not
: want to pay. So we do not have to pay SS, because it has chance to run out
: as well. I guess that you like the third world system so much and I wonder
: why you do not want to move those countries. You do not have pay anything
: and when you are older and sick, you get treatment if you have money. And
: let you die if you have no money. I think this is not right.
:
: 年,
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p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 22 果蝇，为什么法轮宫不得病的无辜群众一定要交钱给侯赛因懦夫呢？
这个简单问题让你的劈叉逻辑自搧耳光小便不通了？ |
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 23 你要看看现实,为了这个健保,要cut medicare.
现在的medicare的命运,就是将来的健保的命运.很多人付了medicare的税几十年,却什
么都要享受不了,因为没钱了.
一手交钱,一手缴货,你政府都不能保证给我货,我为什么要给你钱?
我付给你政府钱了,你政府凭什么保障我将来一定能拿到我的健保?
not
out
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Because in your imagination that there has chance not to work, so you do not
: want to pay. So we do not have to pay SS, because it has chance to run out
: as well. I guess that you like the third world system so much and I wonder
: why you do not want to move those countries. You do not have pay anything
: and when you are older and sick, you get treatment if you have money. And
: let you die if you have no money. I think this is not right.
:
: 年,
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d****i
发帖数: 4354 | 24 Now you are being ridiculous, social security and medicare are not
sustainable, that is a fact. I am already paying much more into the system
than average Americans, all we are asking is clean up the shit before
forcing everybody to pay up. Socializing everything is the Cuba approach, I
suggest you move to Cuba yourself.
not
out
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Because in your imagination that there has chance not to work, so you do not
: want to pay. So we do not have to pay SS, because it has chance to run out
: as well. I guess that you like the third world system so much and I wonder
: why you do not want to move those countries. You do not have pay anything
: and when you are older and sick, you get treatment if you have money. And
: let you die if you have no money. I think this is not right.
:
: 年,
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 25 You know why we can not afford current medicare and social security. Aging
population in US makes less contribution to social security. So I am sure
that ss benefit will be reduced substantially to sustain the system. For
medicare, aging population is only small effect. The major problem is that
our medical treatment is advanced so much that it can save people that
usually die. But most of those advanced treatment only extend life of 90
years old maybe several months but are insanely expensive.
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】
: Now you are being ridiculous, social security and medicare are not
: sustainable, that is a fact. I am already paying much more into the system
: than average Americans, all we are asking is clean up the shit before
: forcing everybody to pay up. Socializing everything is the Cuba approach, I
: suggest you move to Cuba yourself.
:
: not
: out
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 26 lol...
gop solution: you dont have money to pay, you die.
dem solution: gov dont have money to pay, you die.
which one do you want?
changed
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: You know why we can not afford current medicare and social security. Aging
: population in US makes less contribution to social security. So I am sure
: that ss benefit will be reduced substantially to sustain the system. For
: medicare, aging population is only small effect. The major problem is that
: our medical treatment is advanced so much that it can save people that
: usually die. But most of those advanced treatment only extend life of 90
: years old maybe several months but are insanely expensive.
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 27 I know your solution. You think you are hard working and smart so you can
save money today and pay your bill in the rainy day. I admit you are a good citzen. If everyone is like you, it is perfect. If you are unfornate, you have to die because you have no money. You do not want any safe net. But even China is getting one now.
The world is not black and white though. There is always better place in the
middle.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: lol...
: gop solution: you dont have money to pay, you die.
: dem solution: gov dont have money to pay, you die.
: which one do you want?
:
: changed
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D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 28
So why don't you save money for future medical charge rather than rob it
from young people, you dumb son of bch?
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: 谁度知道年轻的时候得大病的概率很低。交保险就是吃亏了的。所以你就决定不交保险
: 是对你有利的。但是当你年纪大的时候，你无病无灾的屈死的概率就不到1%。所以到时
: 候就想买便宜的保险。不想想如果每个人独像你这样，那你年轻的保险是一万。年纪大
: 的时候保险就是20万了。该你们总结一下，就是现在想多花钱，年级大了当计生虫。你
: 想当计生虫就当，但不要拿自由说是。
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 29 that's what capitalism free market is all about.
you dont do this, you fail. you dont have to be like me, no one force you to
be like me. you take your own responsibility, not me.
good
the
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I know your solution. You think you are hard working and smart so you can
: save money today and pay your bill in the rainy day. I admit you are a good citzen. If everyone is like you, it is perfect. If you are unfornate, you have to die because you have no money. You do not want any safe net. But even China is getting one now.
: The world is not black and white though. There is always better place in the
: middle.
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 30 The problems are there are so many young parasites who do not want to save.
But they still want cheap health services when they get cancer in 40s, 50s
60s before medicare kicks in. Because we are not certain that you will save,
you have to pay first. Or in old farmers in the us, you have to deposit $
200000 to the bank as secure deposit. If you are not ill, the moeny will
return. Otherwise we will pay your deadbeat's bill in your name.
【在 D*****n 的大作中提到】
:
: So why don't you save money for future medical charge rather than rob it
: from young people, you dumb son of bch?
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 31 No this is how jungle rule is. If you are strong you survive. otherwise you
die. Captalism is a way to distribute wealth according to the money invested
not labor performed.
to
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: that's what capitalism free market is all about.
: you dont do this, you fail. you dont have to be like me, no one force you to
: be like me. you take your own responsibility, not me.
:
: good
: the
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D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 32
.
save,
You don't save, then you can't afford the medical charge and therefore die.
You will then be cited as example to remind everyone to save. Fair and
simple. No need for your bullshit health care plan. So cut the crap.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: The problems are there are so many young parasites who do not want to save.
: But they still want cheap health services when they get cancer in 40s, 50s
: 60s before medicare kicks in. Because we are not certain that you will save,
: you have to pay first. Or in old farmers in the us, you have to deposit $
: 200000 to the bank as secure deposit. If you are not ill, the moeny will
: return. Otherwise we will pay your deadbeat's bill in your name.
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D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 33
not labor
Capitalism is to reward hardworking people not losers who want young people
to pay for their medical charge. You are just full of it, aren't you?
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: No this is how jungle rule is. If you are strong you survive. otherwise you
: die. Captalism is a way to distribute wealth according to the money invested
: not labor performed.
:
: to
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 34 do you understand what you are talking about?
i dont.
you
invested
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: No this is how jungle rule is. If you are strong you survive. otherwise you
: die. Captalism is a way to distribute wealth according to the money invested
: not labor performed.
:
: to
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 35 You are clueless. Capitalism reward people have the most money not the most
hard working people. This is why the super rich comprise of 0.001% of the
population and they still can defend their right in a democratic capitalism
country. They control what media say.
people
【在 D*****n 的大作中提到】
:
: not labor
: Capitalism is to reward hardworking people not losers who want young people
: to pay for their medical charge. You are just full of it, aren't you?
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 36 However, this is waht will be in an ideal jungle. In this country, you will
be saved anyway in an emergency room. Your million dollar bill will be paid
by other taxpayers. This is why we think you need your own insurance in case
that your head is hit by a truck.
.
【在 D*****n 的大作中提到】
:
: not labor
: Capitalism is to reward hardworking people not losers who want young people
: to pay for their medical charge. You are just full of it, aren't you?
|
B**W
发帖数: 2273 | 37 Without sufficient consumption (i.e., too much saving), capitalism will fail
for sure. Plus, all those savings go to speculation, which leads to either
crisis or inflation. Things are complex. Good individual behavior may not
lead to good societal behavior when taken together.
Plus, don't waste too much time here. USANews board is kinda unique in this
bbs. Those several watchdogs (you can see by yourself who they are) tend to
use all kinds of dirty words to people with different perspectives and
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I know your solution. You think you are hard working and smart so you can
: save money today and pay your bill in the rainy day. I admit you are a good citzen. If everyone is like you, it is perfect. If you are unfornate, you have to die because you have no money. You do not want any safe net. But even China is getting one now.
: The world is not black and white though. There is always better place in the
: middle.
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 38 Image that you are a sheep in a jungle. If you are a strong sheep, you will
not be eaten by wolfs. But you are born defective or unhealthy, then you are
the unfortunate target of wolfs.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: do you understand what you are talking about?
: i dont.
:
: you
: invested
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 39 you are indeed clueless, Capitalism reward people have the most smart use of
their self-ability, not the people have the most money.
otherwise, the social structure will never changed.
most
capitalism
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: You are clueless. Capitalism reward people have the most money not the most
: hard working people. This is why the super rich comprise of 0.001% of the
: population and they still can defend their right in a democratic capitalism
: country. They control what media say.
:
: people
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D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 40
most
capitalism
So why don't you get rich and pay your own medical bill? The stock market is
open to both Buffet and you. No one stops you from becoming as rich. If you
can't, that's your own problem.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: You are clueless. Capitalism reward people have the most money not the most
: hard working people. This is why the super rich comprise of 0.001% of the
: population and they still can defend their right in a democratic capitalism
: country. They control what media say.
:
: people
|
|
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 41 more and more, i feel more discouraged to educate people with non-sense.
totally non-sense
of
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: you are indeed clueless, Capitalism reward people have the most smart use of
: their self-ability, not the people have the most money.
: otherwise, the social structure will never changed.
:
: most
: capitalism
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 42 one thing you forget, sheep can become wolf in the system.
will
are
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Image that you are a sheep in a jungle. If you are a strong sheep, you will
: not be eaten by wolfs. But you are born defective or unhealthy, then you are
: the unfortunate target of wolfs.
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 43 I agree. Oversaving is bad.
I also agree that many people here watch their wallet like wolf watch their
prey. But they forget, the government can rob them without touch their
wallet. Inflation will do the job quietly.
I also agree that the board is the most unfriendly. Throw dirt words like
the people sitting behind other computer screen are monkey. I wonder what
they react when debating with other in person.
fail
either
this
to
they
But
【在 B**W 的大作中提到】
: Without sufficient consumption (i.e., too much saving), capitalism will fail
: for sure. Plus, all those savings go to speculation, which leads to either
: crisis or inflation. Things are complex. Good individual behavior may not
: lead to good societal behavior when taken together.
: Plus, don't waste too much time here. USANews board is kinda unique in this
: bbs. Those several watchdogs (you can see by yourself who they are) tend to
: use all kinds of dirty words to people with different perspectives and
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 44 Please save those craps. I have study more economy than many of the people
here, combined.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: more and more, i feel more discouraged to educate people with non-sense.
: totally non-sense
:
: of
|
D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 45
will
paid
case
The reality goes the other direction. The minute you force young people to
pay the bill for others, you give green light to everyone else to act as
irresponsible to their health as possible. Who cares if I get too fat, too
drug addicted, too whatever as long as someone else covers my medical charge
? That's why your insurance bullshit has to stop.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: However, this is waht will be in an ideal jungle. In this country, you will
: be saved anyway in an emergency room. Your million dollar bill will be paid
: by other taxpayers. This is why we think you need your own insurance in case
: that your head is hit by a truck.
:
: .
|
p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 46 Oversaving is bad.
bravo.
这就是强盗抢钱的理由?
jesus saves, i withdraw!
你不是无耻，是傻屄，呵呵。。。
their
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I agree. Oversaving is bad.
: I also agree that many people here watch their wallet like wolf watch their
: prey. But they forget, the government can rob them without touch their
: wallet. Inflation will do the job quietly.
: I also agree that the board is the most unfriendly. Throw dirt words like
: the people sitting behind other computer screen are monkey. I wonder what
: they react when debating with other in person.
:
: fail
: either
|
p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 47 啊，颠倒黑白一至于斯。
年轻健康的劳动者不给社会增添负担，上税，反而被懒人吸毒犯说成寄生虫。
你脑有屎吧？
.
save,
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: The problems are there are so many young parasites who do not want to save.
: But they still want cheap health services when they get cancer in 40s, 50s
: 60s before medicare kicks in. Because we are not certain that you will save,
: you have to pay first. Or in old farmers in the us, you have to deposit $
: 200000 to the bank as secure deposit. If you are not ill, the moeny will
: return. Otherwise we will pay your deadbeat's bill in your name.
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D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 48 Too much saving leads to inflation???
You liberals are completely retarded.
fail
either
this
to
they
But
【在 B**W 的大作中提到】
: Without sufficient consumption (i.e., too much saving), capitalism will fail
: for sure. Plus, all those savings go to speculation, which leads to either
: crisis or inflation. Things are complex. Good individual behavior may not
: lead to good societal behavior when taken together.
: Plus, don't waste too much time here. USANews board is kinda unique in this
: bbs. Those several watchdogs (you can see by yourself who they are) tend to
: use all kinds of dirty words to people with different perspectives and
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 49 I am paying our part bill already in a employer sponsored plan. I am paying
the same rate as my 20 year older colleague is paying. You mean that I
should pay $10k instead of $20 K, while my older colleage should cough up $
40 K. This just makes no sense to me.
charge
【在 D*****n 的大作中提到】
: Too much saving leads to inflation???
: You liberals are completely retarded.
:
: fail
: either
: this
: to
: they
: But
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 50 i sure could guess.
i used to debate with two craps majored in economics.
one always bragged about fnm/fre in year 2006, named emulex or sth.
one always bashed gold in around 2005 all the way to 2007, named shiznit or
sth.
and i started to realize, how pethetic thses kids are being brainwashed by
the schools.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Please save those craps. I have study more economy than many of the people
: here, combined.
|
|
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 51 and by the way, their english is by far way better...
lol...
or
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: i sure could guess.
: i used to debate with two craps majored in economics.
: one always bragged about fnm/fre in year 2006, named emulex or sth.
: one always bashed gold in around 2005 all the way to 2007, named shiznit or
: sth.
: and i started to realize, how pethetic thses kids are being brainwashed by
: the schools.
|
B**W
发帖数: 2273 | 52 I have no words for idiots.
【在 D*****n 的大作中提到】
: Too much saving leads to inflation???
: You liberals are completely retarded.
:
: fail
: either
: this
: to
: they
: But
|
D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 53
paying
What is insurance anyway? If your risk is high, then you should not pay high
price? Should a guy having 3 incidents every year pay the same rate on auto
insurance as the guy that never has an incident his entire life? What are
you, stupid?
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I am paying our part bill already in a employer sponsored plan. I am paying
: the same rate as my 20 year older colleague is paying. You mean that I
: should pay $10k instead of $20 K, while my older colleage should cough up $
: 40 K. This just makes no sense to me.
:
: charge
|
D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 54
You need to triple your IQ before joining this conversation.
【在 B**W 的大作中提到】
: I have no words for idiots.
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 55 Maybe you never worked. In any employer sponsored plan, every one paid the
same rate. I save my insult to you.
high
auto
【在 D*****n 的大作中提到】
:
: You need to triple your IQ before joining this conversation.
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 56 no you should pay $40k, and your colleague should pay $10k.
because your money will be used in the future, which dooms to be more
expensive, while your colleague is paying to himeself right now.
lol...
paying
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I am paying our part bill already in a employer sponsored plan. I am paying
: the same rate as my 20 year older colleague is paying. You mean that I
: should pay $10k instead of $20 K, while my older colleage should cough up $
: 40 K. This just makes no sense to me.
:
: charge
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 57 This statement is more accurate to describe your iQ.
【在 D*****n 的大作中提到】
:
: You need to triple your IQ before joining this conversation.
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 58 change! yes we can.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Maybe you never worked. In any employer sponsored plan, every one paid the
: same rate. I save my insult to you.
:
: high
: auto
|
p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 59 健康的劳动者被你代表的懒人吸毒犯斥为无耻寄生虫？
你个傻逼果蝇果然是金粒餐养的，天生脑有屎呀。。。
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: This statement is more accurate to describe your iQ.
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 60 Do not act stupid. It is not funny
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: no you should pay $40k, and your colleague should pay $10k.
: because your money will be used in the future, which dooms to be more
: expensive, while your colleague is paying to himeself right now.
: lol...
:
: paying
|
|
|
B**W
发帖数: 2273 | 61 Although that doesn't bother me, thanks, man.
It is nice to see one decent person on this board.
Have a good weekend, all.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: This statement is more accurate to describe your iQ.
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 62 what's wrong with my statement?
you need to learn to do critical thinking, you know, instead of repeating
the propaganda shit you have been brainwashed.
lol...
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Do not act stupid. It is not funny
|
D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 63
That's the employer eating the loss for you not that they deserve to, retard
.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Maybe you never worked. In any employer sponsored plan, every one paid the
: same rate. I save my insult to you.
:
: high
: auto
|
p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 64 你如果是勤劳健康的，果蝇说你是无耻的。
【在 B**W 的大作中提到】
: Although that doesn't bother me, thanks, man.
: It is nice to see one decent person on this board.
: Have a good weekend, all.
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 65 see, your professor have told you about this?
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: what's wrong with my statement?
: you need to learn to do critical thinking, you know, instead of repeating
: the propaganda shit you have been brainwashed.
: lol...
|
D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 66
He needs to triple, you quadruple.
Too much saving = inflation, LOL. I'll transfer it to joke board.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: This statement is more accurate to describe your iQ.
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 67 It is wrong because my family uses only $5k of the benefit at the most. So I
have saved money when I am older. While my colleague has heart problem,
claims more than 100K a year.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: what's wrong with my statement?
: you need to learn to do critical thinking, you know, instead of repeating
: the propaganda shit you have been brainwashed.
: lol...
|
p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 68 那你为什么说不得病根本不用任何福利的法轮宫无辜群众无耻？
你不是说oversaving很坏吗？
这么整天自搧耳光，是为了方便你脑子里的屎往外喷码？
I
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: It is wrong because my family uses only $5k of the benefit at the most. So I
: have saved money when I am older. While my colleague has heart problem,
: claims more than 100K a year.
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 69 The reason why reckless driver pays more is because he can control his
reckless behavior. The high rate is in place to punish the bad behavior. But
bad health conditions are mostly caused by unluck. You have modest control
on your chance to get cancer and heart attack. I read a report that more
than 70% of the human diseases are caused by your bad DNA. We can not punish
that you have bad DNA. If so, just let a biologist look at your DNA and
decide how bad it is. The diagnosis from the biologist
【在 D*****n 的大作中提到】
:
: He needs to triple, you quadruple.
: Too much saving = inflation, LOL. I'll transfer it to joke board.
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 70 and you think it is right to have me to pay more tax into other people's hospital bills which is running astronomical numbers based on current healthcare bill.
why?
I
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: It is wrong because my family uses only $5k of the benefit at the most. So I
: have saved money when I am older. While my colleague has heart problem,
: claims more than 100K a year.
|
|
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 71 see, you can for sure control your eating habbit.
so government should regulate your sugar intake, salt intake, fat intake,
chinese food intake, mcdonalds intake, or you can not even eat say during
the middle of night, because that not gonna help your health.
这不就是我上次跟你说的嘛,没事别动你的乳房, 想ooxx也最好找政府请示一下,看看政
府是什么意见,你需要不需要license 什么的.
lol...
But
control
punish
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: The reason why reckless driver pays more is because he can control his
: reckless behavior. The high rate is in place to punish the bad behavior. But
: bad health conditions are mostly caused by unluck. You have modest control
: on your chance to get cancer and heart attack. I read a report that more
: than 70% of the human diseases are caused by your bad DNA. We can not punish
: that you have bad DNA. If so, just let a biologist look at your DNA and
: decide how bad it is. The diagnosis from the biologist
|
p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 72 你连癌症都能控制，却控制不了自己的钱包，反而要控制别人的钱包？
脑有屎啊你。。。
But
control
punish
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: The reason why reckless driver pays more is because he can control his
: reckless behavior. The high rate is in place to punish the bad behavior. But
: bad health conditions are mostly caused by unluck. You have modest control
: on your chance to get cancer and heart attack. I read a report that more
: than 70% of the human diseases are caused by your bad DNA. We can not punish
: that you have bad DNA. If so, just let a biologist look at your DNA and
: decide how bad it is. The diagnosis from the biologist
|
D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 73
But
control
punish
That's all the more reason you should act responsibly, exercising and eating
healthy food to reduce the risk of the disease and save money for potential
potential medical charge. Do you own duty rather than out to grab young
people's wallet when in trouble.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: The reason why reckless driver pays more is because he can control his
: reckless behavior. The high rate is in place to punish the bad behavior. But
: bad health conditions are mostly caused by unluck. You have modest control
: on your chance to get cancer and heart attack. I read a report that more
: than 70% of the human diseases are caused by your bad DNA. We can not punish
: that you have bad DNA. If so, just let a biologist look at your DNA and
: decide how bad it is. The diagnosis from the biologist
|
p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 74 粪奴控制不了自己的欲望、懒惰、奢侈，却想play god去控制别人的钱包，果蝇，没说
错你吧？ |
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 75 Are you blind? Less 30% of the disease can be controlled while 70% can not.
What's your point?
eating
potential
【在 D*****n 的大作中提到】
:
: But
: control
: punish
: That's all the more reason you should act responsibly, exercising and eating
: healthy food to reduce the risk of the disease and save money for potential
: potential medical charge. Do you own duty rather than out to grab young
: people's wallet when in trouble.
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 76 I guess so many of people here can not have a conversation without dirt
words. We are not kids anymore. Act yourselves and do not pretend to be a
monkey.
.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Are you blind? Less 30% of the disease can be controlled while 70% can not.
: What's your point?
:
: eating
: potential
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 77 dude, have you touched your xx today? dont touch it ok, if anything goes
wrong, my money gonna be wasted, you know.
dude, do you eat too much today? dont eat too much ok?, if anything goes
wrong, my money gonna be wasted as well, you know?
lol...
.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Are you blind? Less 30% of the disease can be controlled while 70% can not.
: What's your point?
:
: eating
: potential
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 78 i am telling you the truth, you can read it here.
dont touch your breast!
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/USANews/31264129_3.html
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I guess so many of people here can not have a conversation without dirt
: words. We are not kids anymore. Act yourselves and do not pretend to be a
: monkey.
:
: .
|
p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 79 如果你总是自搧耳光偏爱无耻这样的词语，会发现围观群众会给你提供营养的，除非你
已经金粒餐上瘾无法自拔了。
你说说健康勤劳的无辜群众是如何成为拖累经济的寄生虫的？
你这种脑有屎的劈叉逻辑需要解释，脑瘤李李师傅拭目以待。
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I guess so many of people here can not have a conversation without dirt
: words. We are not kids anymore. Act yourselves and do not pretend to be a
: monkey.
:
: .
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 80 I remembered when I was in college, I could not tolerate any insult. I would
use the Jewish way, "eye for eye, life for life". For now, I just do not
care too much. It will not make your point any strong but piss off your
friends.
【在 B**W 的大作中提到】
: Although that doesn't bother me, thanks, man.
: It is nice to see one decent person on this board.
: Have a good weekend, all.
|
|
|
D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 81
.
That's why you need to save money just in case that 70% hits you. Why do you
choose not to and then ask young people to cover it for you?
Does this "70%" only happen to you not young people? Are you plain stupid?
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Are you blind? Less 30% of the disease can be controlled while 70% can not.
: What's your point?
:
: eating
: potential
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 82 i remember when i try to be nice in the college, presenting all the facts and logic, and telling those activitist morons to leave us alone, they just dont quit.
now i learn the jewish way, eye for eye, life for life...
lol...
would
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I remembered when I was in college, I could not tolerate any insult. I would
: use the Jewish way, "eye for eye, life for life". For now, I just do not
: care too much. It will not make your point any strong but piss off your
: friends.
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 83 I guess that your can not read. When do I say that working class are
parasites? What I say is that if you do not pay your due now, you possibly
become a parasite when you are older. there is chance that you can not pay
your million dollar health care bill.
【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 如果你总是自搧耳光偏爱无耻这样的词语，会发现围观群众会给你提供营养的，除非你
: 已经金粒餐上瘾无法自拔了。
: 你说说健康勤劳的无辜群众是如何成为拖累经济的寄生虫的？
: 你这种脑有屎的劈叉逻辑需要解释，脑瘤李李师傅拭目以待。
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 84
hospital bills which is running astronomical numbers based on current
healthcare bill.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: and you think it is right to have me to pay more tax into other people's hospital bills which is running astronomical numbers based on current healthcare bill.
: why?
:
: I
|
m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 85 Disease developed overtime. The older, the higher the chance to get cancer
and heart attack. But the bad DNA is in your body even before you are born.
So if we scale with risk with age, older people will use way more health
care service.
you
【在 D*****n 的大作中提到】
:
: .
: That's why you need to save money just in case that 70% hits you. Why do you
: choose not to and then ask young people to cover it for you?
: Does this "70%" only happen to you not young people? Are you plain stupid?
|
p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 86 说你逻辑劈叉还嘴硬呢。
有人一辈子不得病，你要抢人家钱么
现在的现行寄生虫你倒是不说无耻，反而说健康勤劳的人以后可能寄生？怎么个可能寄
生？人家劳动挣钱、缴税、存钱，反而现在抢钱的不寄生？
你说说你现在看病是政府出钱还是你自己出钱吧。
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I guess that your can not read. When do I say that working class are
: parasites? What I say is that if you do not pay your due now, you possibly
: become a parasite when you are older. there is chance that you can not pay
: your million dollar health care bill.
|
D*****n
发帖数: 363 | 87
.
The older you are, the longer you've worked and the more wealth you should
have accumulated and therefore the more financial resource you should have
to handle your own medical problem, and ultimately the less an excuse to ask
it from young people who have the exact opposite to the above.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Disease developed overtime. The older, the higher the chance to get cancer
: and heart attack. But the bad DNA is in your body even before you are born.
: So if we scale with risk with age, older people will use way more health
: care service.
:
: you
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 88 It is not about nice or not nice. It is about the strategy to win more
support. Your rant will get you nowhere and will make you bitter. You are
distancing you from your potential allies. I have to say that I share many
similar belief with you. I do not like the jungle rule. It is not civic.
Many here believe that they are smart euough to survive the jungle. The
truth is that they are just meat blocks on the chopping board. If redneck
like, they will be a central camp. Do not forget the history,
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: i remember when i try to be nice in the college, presenting all the facts and logic, and telling those activitist morons to leave us alone, they just dont quit.
: now i learn the jewish way, eye for eye, life for life...
: lol...
:
: would
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p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 89 如果要赢得支持，可以学习希特勒排犹和人种优化。
所以，侯赛因被称为希特勒不是没有道理的，不过是反着来的，劣币驱逐良币。
just
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: It is not about nice or not nice. It is about the strategy to win more
: support. Your rant will get you nowhere and will make you bitter. You are
: distancing you from your potential allies. I have to say that I share many
: similar belief with you. I do not like the jungle rule. It is not civic.
: Many here believe that they are smart euough to survive the jungle. The
: truth is that they are just meat blocks on the chopping board. If redneck
: like, they will be a central camp. Do not forget the history,
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