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l**w
发帖数: 865
1
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make
relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health
Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from
making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background
check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals
prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping
through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full
background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing
guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product
Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to
trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and
make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with
proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun
crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease
Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and
most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private
sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking
their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law
prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement
authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship
and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of
mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity
requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on
mental health.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/16/list-executive-actions-obama-plans-to-take-as-part-anti-gun-violence-plan/#ixzz2IASDzUoO
H*******g
发帖数: 6997
2
说说你想讨论啥?
l**w
发帖数: 865
3
个人一直不理解为什么不关闭Gun show 和 private sell 的漏洞?
绕过背景检查太简单了。
让犯罪分子拿不到枪不是大家都支持的吗?
*******************
In 33 states, private gun owners are not restricted from selling guns at gun
shows. Buyers who purchase guns from individuals are not required to submit
to the federal background checks in place for licensed dealers. Critics say
that firearms can be obtained illegally as a result, calling it the “gun
show loophole.” Proponents of unregulated gun show sales say that there is
no loophole; gun owners are simply selling or trading guns at the shows as
they would do at their residence.
Federal legislation has attempted to put an end to the so-called loophole by
requiring all gun show transactions to take place through FFL dealers. Most
recently, a 2009 bill attracted several co-sponsors in both the U.S. House
of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. However, Congress ultimately failed
to take up consideration of the legislation.
H*******g
发帖数: 6997
4
那你要问他老人家了。也许他忘记了?你说的这2个我完全支持。是应该把漏洞补上。
买枪可以,但不能和买白菜一样。
l**w
发帖数: 865
5
这个显然超出了总统的行政命令的权限,应该是国会的事情。

【在 H*******g 的大作中提到】
: 那你要问他老人家了。也许他忘记了?你说的这2个我完全支持。是应该把漏洞补上。
: 买枪可以,但不能和买白菜一样。

l**w
发帖数: 865
6
The Bloomberg Investigation
In 2009, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, founder of the Mayors
Against Illegal Guns group, stirred controversy and stimulated the gun show
debate when NYC hired private investigators to target gun shows in Ohio,
Nevada and Tennessee.
According to a report released by Bloomberg’s office, 22 of 33 private
sellers sold guns to undercover investigators who informed them that they
probably could not pass a background check, while 16 of 17 licensed sellers
allowed straw purchases by the undercover investigators, a process through
which a person prohibited from purchasing a firearm recruits someone to
purchase the gun for them.
(from about.com)
g***y
发帖数: 1268
7
关闭Gun show 和 private sell 的漏洞的方法有两个,一是取消所有私人枪支交易,
显然不可能。二是universal background check. 这主要是privacy issue. 现在只有
licensed dealer才可以向federal database提交请求,如果把private transaction包
括进来,基本上就是所有人都可以查所有人。这还是比较可怕的。

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【在 l**w 的大作中提到】
: 个人一直不理解为什么不关闭Gun show 和 private sell 的漏洞?
: 绕过背景检查太简单了。
: 让犯罪分子拿不到枪不是大家都支持的吗?
: *******************
: In 33 states, private gun owners are not restricted from selling guns at gun
: shows. Buyers who purchase guns from individuals are not required to submit
: to the federal background checks in place for licensed dealers. Critics say
: that firearms can be obtained illegally as a result, calling it the “gun
: show loophole.” Proponents of unregulated gun show sales say that there is
: no loophole; gun owners are simply selling or trading guns at the shows as

k**o
发帖数: 15334
8
私人枪支交易漏洞其实是可以填补住的,就是require大家都去FFL交易而已。
FFL可以做背景调查。现在反正online交易已经这样做了,只不过州内交易也
需要这样而已。

【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: 关闭Gun show 和 private sell 的漏洞的方法有两个,一是取消所有私人枪支交易,
: 显然不可能。二是universal background check. 这主要是privacy issue. 现在只有
: licensed dealer才可以向federal database提交请求,如果把private transaction包
: 括进来,基本上就是所有人都可以查所有人。这还是比较可怕的。
:
: gun
: submit
: say
: is

g***y
发帖数: 1268
9
Obama这些条文与其说是gun control, 不如说是ex-con和精神病登记法。
这幸好是Obama, 要是一个GOP的总统,人权组织还不得出来骂翻。

slipping

【在 l**w 的大作中提到】
: 1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make
: relevant data available to the federal background check system.
: 2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health
: Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from
: making information available to the background check system.
: 3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background
: check system.
: 4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals
: prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping
: through the cracks.

g***y
发帖数: 1268
10
这倒也是。

【在 k**o 的大作中提到】
: 私人枪支交易漏洞其实是可以填补住的,就是require大家都去FFL交易而已。
: FFL可以做背景调查。现在反正online交易已经这样做了,只不过州内交易也
: 需要这样而已。

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h*********n
发帖数: 11319
11
我是支持所有交易去FFL的
但是必须只限背景调查,不能登记枪支序列号,更不能永久存档购买记录。

【在 k**o 的大作中提到】
: 私人枪支交易漏洞其实是可以填补住的,就是require大家都去FFL交易而已。
: FFL可以做背景调查。现在反正online交易已经这样做了,只不过州内交易也
: 需要这样而已。

g***y
发帖数: 1268
12
这些dealer为什么要帮私人交易查呢? 他有什么incentive?

【在 k**o 的大作中提到】
: 私人枪支交易漏洞其实是可以填补住的,就是require大家都去FFL交易而已。
: FFL可以做背景调查。现在反正online交易已经这样做了,只不过州内交易也
: 需要这样而已。

g***y
发帖数: 1268
13
现在法律规定federal 管database的NICS必须把查完的档案销毁,不许搞registration
.

【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 我是支持所有交易去FFL的
: 但是必须只限背景调查,不能登记枪支序列号,更不能永久存档购买记录。

r****9
发帖数: 4961
14
20-50 dollars per transaction. Welcome to America.

【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: 这些dealer为什么要帮私人交易查呢? 他有什么incentive?
g***y
发帖数: 1268
15
这就是给private transaction 加税。

【在 r****9 的大作中提到】
: 20-50 dollars per transaction. Welcome to America.
g***y
发帖数: 1268
16
这些dealer的license就是白花花的银子。还不如放开database access。

【在 r****9 的大作中提到】
: 20-50 dollars per transaction. Welcome to America.
l**w
发帖数: 865
17
如何保证大家都去FFL交易呢?就算联邦或者州立法要求这样。
Track 每一枝枪的话估计大家都不干,不管是保守派还是自由派。
r****9
发帖数: 4961
18
守法的公民(绝大多数gun owner都是),肯定会遵守的。坏人肯定不会遵守的。
至于FFL的活儿其实挺麻烦的,给钱我都不愿意干。

【在 l**w 的大作中提到】
: 如何保证大家都去FFL交易呢?就算联邦或者州立法要求这样。
: Track 每一枝枪的话估计大家都不干,不管是保守派还是自由派。

h*********n
发帖数: 11319
19
卖家必须去,否则出了事都算他名下

【在 l**w 的大作中提到】
: 如何保证大家都去FFL交易呢?就算联邦或者州立法要求这样。
: Track 每一枝枪的话估计大家都不干,不管是保守派还是自由派。

y***r
发帖数: 16594
20
不遵守可以,如果卖的枪出了问题杀了人,等于卖枪的杀了人。

【在 r****9 的大作中提到】
: 守法的公民(绝大多数gun owner都是),肯定会遵守的。坏人肯定不会遵守的。
: 至于FFL的活儿其实挺麻烦的,给钱我都不愿意干。

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k**********i
发帖数: 8706
21
赞真知灼见!
能查人家的精神病史了

【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: Obama这些条文与其说是gun control, 不如说是ex-con和精神病登记法。
: 这幸好是Obama, 要是一个GOP的总统,人权组织还不得出来骂翻。
:
: slipping

g***y
发帖数: 1268
22
即使是FFL,如果universal background check 的话,也意味着可以随便查。
比如男的说“嫁给我吧”,女的说“可以,只要你pass background check”
比如公司招人,优先考虑pass background check的人.

【在 k**o 的大作中提到】
: 私人枪支交易漏洞其实是可以填补住的,就是require大家都去FFL交易而已。
: FFL可以做背景调查。现在反正online交易已经这样做了,只不过州内交易也
: 需要这样而已。

s*******n
发帖数: 12995
23
没有全国的枪支登记系统,这无法做到。当然,我个人并不反对全国的枪支登记系统,
但估计大部分拥枪的老美不会同意。
不过就算有,只要磨去序列号即可。全国的枪支登记系统其实也就聊胜于无。

【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 卖家必须去,否则出了事都算他名下
g***y
发帖数: 1268
24
到时候就不止登记序列号了,还得登记枪的Ballistic fingerprints.

【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 没有全国的枪支登记系统,这无法做到。当然,我个人并不反对全国的枪支登记系统,
: 但估计大部分拥枪的老美不会同意。
: 不过就算有,只要磨去序列号即可。全国的枪支登记系统其实也就聊胜于无。

k**o
发帖数: 15334
25
就是因为不想要universal background check,所以才require FFL。

【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: 即使是FFL,如果universal background check 的话,也意味着可以随便查。
: 比如男的说“嫁给我吧”,女的说“可以,只要你pass background check”
: 比如公司招人,优先考虑pass background check的人.

f******u
发帖数: 767
26
换𠆤枪管和撞钉特別难吗?

【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: 到时候就不止登记序列号了,还得登记枪的Ballistic fingerprints.
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