m*****s
发帖数: 4427 | 1 被坏女人Conway及一帮川粉架秧子， 根本不知道外面是怎么回事
Donald Trump has a new target: "Crooked polls."
With Hillary Clinton extending her lead nationwide and in key battleground
states, Trump is toying with what might be called "poll denialism," giving
his supporters license to dismiss the discouraging data.
"Even the polls are crooked," he said at a Monday night rally, expressing
disbelief that he is losing to Clinton in Pennsylvania. "Look, we're in a
rigged system."
Trump has only topped Clinton in one scientifically conducted poll in
Pennsylvania since it became clear he would be the GOP's nominee back in
April, while Clinton has been in the lead in 18 of them. In the most recent
polls, Clinton holds a double-digit lead there.
On Tuesday when Bill O'Reilly told him that "you're behind with women,"
Trump responded, "I'm not sure I believe it. I'm not sure I believe it."
Nearly every national poll finds Clinton well ahead among women, and she
holds a 17-point lead among women in the most recent national polling on the
race from NBC and the Wall Street Journal.
At a rally Tuesday night, Trump told fans, "The polls are pretty even in
Florida. Don't let me down!"
Trump's assessment was true a month ago, but in more recent polling, Cinton
holds a narrow lead over Trump in all the scientific polling conducted since
the first debate.
Some of Trump's bullish talk is run-of-the-mill campaign rhetoric --
rallying the base -- but there are times when Trump and his aides are
clearly misleading voters.
Trump told O'Reilly that "Virtually everybody, other than, you know, some
crooked polls, said that we won the debate easily."
In fact, every scientific poll of debate watchers found that Clinton was the
victor.
O'Reilly did not interject to correct Trump.
But MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell was blunt about the reality on his Tuesday
night program: "There is no real poll showing Donald Trump winning the
second debate."
On Twitter earlier in the day, Trump said "every poll" showed him winning in
a "landslide."
Trump's apparent source for this belief: Unscientific online surveys
published by sites like The Drudge Report and Breitbart. These surveys allow
people to vote multiple times and don't purport to measure nationwide
public opinion. At best, the surveys may measure enthusiasm.
Related: The problem with Donald Trump's 'we won every poll' claim
Trump read the survey results aloud at a rally on Monday night. "Drudge is a
great guy, right?" he said.
Some news outlets that posted "who won?" surveys after the first debate
decided not to do so after the second debate, apparently as a result of
Trump incorrectly portraying the data.
Trump sometimes cites the size of his crowds as evidence that the race is
more competitive than the polls indicate. Virtually all political experts
dismiss the anecdotal evidence that crowd size can provide as a real
predictor of election results.
NBC late night host Seth Meyers joked about it on Tuesday night: "Just
because you draw big crowds doesn't mean you're winning the election. If all
you needed to win was a big crowd of people, our next president would be
Ikea on a Saturday."
A campaign fundraising email from Eric Trump on Wednesday cited "huge gains"
and contained a map showing blue states changing to red. This positive spin
is not backed up by the facts; indeed, FiveThirtyEight suggested that Eric
Trump may have been using a map it produced showing what would happen if
only men voted.
Trump spokesman Jason Miller cited crowd size and pro-Trump "energy" during
a Wednesday morning interview on Fox News. Miller said the GOP nominee had a
"great bounce" in polls after the second debate and predicted this: "I
think by the time we wake up tomorrow, I think this is probably going to be
a dead even race. Maybe even Mr. Trump ahead by a little bit."
Later in the same hour, political scientist Larry Sabato said on Fox, "I don
't know how he came up with that one."
In 2012, there was an active effort by some conservatives to cast doubt
about the polls that showed President Obama prevailing over Mitt Romney.
This so-called "unskewed polls" movement is now a punchline. |
G*******h
发帖数: 4091 | 2 Trump可怜啊，万一败了，只能灰溜溜回家做富家翁。
希婆厉害呀，当不上总统就进大牢，然后让全体纳税人养一辈子喽！旱涝保收双保险，
厉害真厉害，当世女诸葛，赛过武则天！ |
c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 3 康薇其实不差，据说她给老船度身定做了目前的方略：在刺激自己基本盘的同时，对希
拉里搞抹黑，压低民主党的投票率。
对四面楚歌的Trump来说，这可能是唯一可行策略了。
【在 m*****s 的大作中提到】
: 被坏女人Conway及一帮川粉架秧子， 根本不知道外面是怎么回事
: Donald Trump has a new target: "Crooked polls."
: With Hillary Clinton extending her lead nationwide and in key battleground
: states, Trump is toying with what might be called "poll denialism," giving
: his supporters license to dismiss the discouraging data.
: "Even the polls are crooked," he said at a Monday night rally, expressing
: disbelief that he is losing to Clinton in Pennsylvania. "Look, we're in a
: rigged system."
: Trump has only topped Clinton in one scientifically conducted poll in
: Pennsylvania since it became clear he would be the GOP's nominee back in
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h****n
发帖数: 3447 | 4 你太小瞧希拉里了。她上台以后不可能让Trump再做回原来的富家翁了。Trump的企业和
他本人都将有很大的问题。Trump最好选上，否则后果恐怕没有那么简单。他骂的太狠
了，威胁的也很彻底。不仅是民主党还有共和党，不仅是总统，还有美联储，华尔街，
有权有势他基本都得罪全了。这些人如果都是善男善女，那Trump也就不用骂他们了。
如果他们不是善男善女，怎么可能就这么算了呢。
【在 G*******h 的大作中提到】
: Trump可怜啊，万一败了，只能灰溜溜回家做富家翁。
: 希婆厉害呀，当不上总统就进大牢，然后让全体纳税人养一辈子喽！旱涝保收双保险，
: 厉害真厉害，当世女诸葛，赛过武则天！
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x***m
发帖数: 345 | 5 上台后，整死床铺
【在 G*******h 的大作中提到】
: Trump可怜啊，万一败了，只能灰溜溜回家做富家翁。
: 希婆厉害呀，当不上总统就进大牢，然后让全体纳税人养一辈子喽！旱涝保收双保险，
: 厉害真厉害，当世女诸葛，赛过武则天！
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t********e
发帖数: 1079 | 6 why?
【在 x***m 的大作中提到】
: 上台后，整死床铺
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w********i
发帖数: 1721 | 7 这是美国还是台湾？
【在 x***m 的大作中提到】
: 上台后，整死床铺
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m***i
发帖数: 2013 | 8 有啥歪的？老将们不是有名言已经流传很久了嘛，"民主了杀你全家!"
【在 t********e 的大作中提到】
: why?
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s*****n
发帖数: 741 | 9 别扯这些没用的。cnn的poll一共500+人，75%取样民主党，然后说hillary 领先10+点
，你信了，我反正不信。
做人critical thinking 能力很重要，媒体在这次大选里面还有一点公信力？最好的办
法是去翻看原始对话记录和video。别媒体说什么就信什么。大选开始的时候我也反感
trump的不得了，后来自己去查了查媒体对他的几个指控，发现根本不是那么回事。
没有critical thinking能力，在中国就是听党话的四有好青年。在美国就是犹太媒体
控制下的puppet。如果感兴趣，可以自己去听一听2002政府对外开放的肯尼迪总统时期
他和幕僚讨论犹太人控制媒体的tape。肯尼迪时期犹太人就已经开始控制美国舆论走向
了。 |
y***r
发帖数: 16594 | 10 两人上台，都不会搞对方的。三天前把，ivanka采访的时候还说和切尔西是很好的朋友
，以后也会是。
有一种阴谋论，说的就是trump就是混进GOP内部摧毁GOP。
我现在越看越像。
【在 h****n 的大作中提到】
: 你太小瞧希拉里了。她上台以后不可能让Trump再做回原来的富家翁了。Trump的企业和
: 他本人都将有很大的问题。Trump最好选上，否则后果恐怕没有那么简单。他骂的太狠
: 了，威胁的也很彻底。不仅是民主党还有共和党，不仅是总统，还有美联储，华尔街，
: 有权有势他基本都得罪全了。这些人如果都是善男善女，那Trump也就不用骂他们了。
: 如果他们不是善男善女，怎么可能就这么算了呢。
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y*****n
发帖数: 27 | |
g****y
发帖数: 2810 | 12 川粉以己度人
【在 x***m 的大作中提到】
: 上台后，整死床铺
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h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | 13 巴马都已经在干那事了 这届真是把芝加哥黑帮一套运用的淋漓尽至
: 这是美国还是台湾？
【在 w********i 的大作中提到】
: 这是美国还是台湾？
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h****n
发帖数: 3447 | 14 这么想就好了，你和一个同事共同竞争CEO。他骂你，然后威胁你。如果你当上了CEO，
你不给这个同事小鞋穿吗？
【在 y***r 的大作中提到】
: 两人上台，都不会搞对方的。三天前把，ivanka采访的时候还说和切尔西是很好的朋友
: ，以后也会是。
: 有一种阴谋论，说的就是trump就是混进GOP内部摧毁GOP。
: 我现在越看越像。
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j****l
发帖数: 3356 | 15 川普明明确实把共和党的名声给毁了不少，不过毁的更多的是民主党和主流媒体吧
【在 y***r 的大作中提到】
: 两人上台，都不会搞对方的。三天前把，ivanka采访的时候还说和切尔西是很好的朋友
: ，以后也会是。
: 有一种阴谋论，说的就是trump就是混进GOP内部摧毁GOP。
: 我现在越看越像。
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h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | 16 和党明确和建制派分开讲了 床铺上台和党还是和党 不过换了个老大坐 主党这次估计
要一起沦陷了 克林顿家已经完蛋了 巴马祈祷战火不要烧到他身上吧
: 川普明明确实把共和党的名声给毁了不少，不过毁的更多的是民主党和主流媒体吧
【在 j****l 的大作中提到】
: 川普明明确实把共和党的名声给毁了不少，不过毁的更多的是民主党和主流媒体吧
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n*********e
发帖数: 25274 | 17 克林顿再次进白宫，年轻女实习生们是不是又要争相挤破头进去了呀？ |
T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 18 电视上看到，作弊开始宣传刺杀川普谣言了，没底线的
【在 w********i 的大作中提到】
: 这是美国还是台湾？
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T****6
发帖数: 138 | 19 千万别这么想啊，虽然现在客家富得不会再为这种事破产。
要是这么想，那以后叫百姓怎么看所有那些在白(春)宫工作的姑娘们呀？
为男克？为女客？双重嫌疑啊。
如果因姑娘们顾及名声不敢进宫，造成那儿的工作AA没法执行，这又叫主党如何是好？
少了一大卖点啊。
【在 n*********e 的大作中提到】
: 克林顿再次进白宫，年轻女实习生们是不是又要争相挤破头进去了呀？
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B*Q
发帖数: 25729 | |
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y***r
发帖数: 16594 | 21 如果是一个戏里面，两个演正反角色的演员呢？
哈哈。
【在 h****n 的大作中提到】
: 这么想就好了，你和一个同事共同竞争CEO。他骂你，然后威胁你。如果你当上了CEO，
: 你不给这个同事小鞋穿吗？
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A***n
发帖数: 8859 | 22 IRS 年年搞他都屹立不倒，
人家顶级律师团是干什么的？
【在 y*****n 的大作中提到】
: 希拉拉上台以后川普会不会遭殃？
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p********n
发帖数: 3367 | |
d***0
发帖数: 182 | |
k**n
发帖数: 3989 | 25 支持..
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 别扯这些没用的。cnn的poll一共500+人，75%取样民主党，然后说hillary 领先10+点
: ，你信了，我反正不信。
: 做人critical thinking 能力很重要，媒体在这次大选里面还有一点公信力？最好的办
: 法是去翻看原始对话记录和video。别媒体说什么就信什么。大选开始的时候我也反感
: trump的不得了，后来自己去查了查媒体对他的几个指控，发现根本不是那么回事。
: 没有critical thinking能力，在中国就是听党话的四有好青年。在美国就是犹太媒体
: 控制下的puppet。如果感兴趣，可以自己去听一听2002政府对外开放的肯尼迪总统时期
: 他和幕僚讨论犹太人控制媒体的tape。肯尼迪时期犹太人就已经开始控制美国舆论走向
: 了。
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