f*******y
发帖数: 8358 | 1 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
党的本质就是基层组织力量。
我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
machine。
当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
现在nv和fl的early vote poll都出来了。投票人数超记录了。都是民主党组织的。
trump这个大笨蛋根本就不知道ground game是什么。
天天搞rally有屁用，那些人还是那些人，不会多一张票。
这时候就算nv和fl的poll领先也没用了。
game is over. | b********e
发帖数: 1100 | 2 伦伦们高兴就好
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| j**********r
发帖数: 3798 | 3 你丫有脸的话就知道FL 共和党居然还领先，这是landslide的节奏。
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| s******n
发帖数: 6806 | 4 2012年FL的early vote 就是共和党领先，
今年是比2012年领先的多了一丁点而已。
【在 j**********r 的大作中提到】
: 你丫有脸的话就知道FL 共和党居然还领先，这是landslide的节奏。
:
: 程。
: clinton
| f*******y
发帖数: 8358 | 5 呵呵
【在 b********e 的大作中提到】
: 伦伦们高兴就好
:
: 程。
: clinton
| H****S
发帖数: 1359 | 6 你家老头和希婆本就是穿一条裤子的，有维基解密邮件为证。你妈了这么多字自动丧失
credibility。
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| h******x
发帖数: 10156 | 7
程。
clinton
这个讲的有道理。希婆搞了很久选举了，比川普有经验多了
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | 8 傻娃 拉渴水的牛出来喝水和强按牛头喝水是两种工作 难度天差地别 别把ground game
当万能的 | v**d
发帖数: 574 | 9 地面活动床铺不是有无数自带干粮的人吗，这次应该不输主党了吧 | g****y
发帖数: 2810 | 10 民主党万岁
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| | | f*******y
发帖数: 8358 | 11 事实上差太多了。fl有28%的gop投希拉里，简直不可想象。
【在 v**d 的大作中提到】
: 地面活动床铺不是有无数自带干粮的人吗，这次应该不输主党了吧
| h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | 12 你这数据有出处么 今年总体趋势是主党投和党的多于和党投主党的
: 事实上差太多了。fl有28%的gop投希拉里，简直不可想象。
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 事实上差太多了。fl有28%的gop投希拉里，简直不可想象。
| f*******y
发帖数: 8358 | 13 自己google 啊。很多正规媒体都报道了。
这个和你们相信的假新闻，谣言不一样。
【在 h*******n 的大作中提到】
: 你这数据有出处么 今年总体趋势是主党投和党的多于和党投主党的
:
:
: 事实上差太多了。fl有28%的gop投希拉里，简直不可想象。
:
| M******e
发帖数: 1193 | 14 Benghazi/Libya
Hillary Clinton Discussed Libya’s Struggles After Gaddafi’s Fall. “In
Libya, they had one of the best elections in the whole region after the fall
of Gaddafi, but they've not been able to assert control over the security
of their nation in any way yet. So they have a lot of the right impulses and
desires, but don't know how to move the levers of authority to provide
security for citizens, business interests and the like.” [Hamilton College
Speech, 10/4/13]
Clinton Said Libya Was A Challenging Situation And That Benghazi Was Very
Much On Her Mind. “Libya is a very challenging situation for everybody.
There the people of Libya wanted help. Neither the United States nor Arab
countries imposed their campaign against Gaddafi on them. They were
demonstrating. He was going after them. We helped in an unprecedented
coalition between NATO and the Arab League. Gaddafi is thrown off, but,
remember, this is a man who did not permit any institution to be firmly
established. He didn't have an army because he came out of the army, and he
knew that if he had an army somebody like him might come out after him. So
he had mercenaries, and militias were heavily armed, largely with the
weaponry they stole from Gaddafi's storehouses. They had an election, which
was really a promising election, broad cross-section of people elected, but
they're insecure, and a government's first job is to secure its people, and
they can't figure out how to do it, and it's a big debate in our country and
Europe what can we do to help them because, you know, obviously I'm sitting
up here with Benghazi very much, you know, in my mind. You try to help,
you try to create relationships, and, you know, the hard guys with the guns
have a different idea. So if you don't have overwhelming force, it's
difficult. So Libya is an open book yet.” [Clinton Speech For General
Electric’s Global Leadership Meeting – Boca Raton, FL, 1/6/14]
Clinton Discussed Lack Of Institutions In Libya After Gaddafi’s Fall. “Now
, you know, in Libya, the United Nations voted how to protect civilians.
And the coalition that was put together was unprecedented. It was NATO plus
the Arab League. That had never happened before. The over flights, the
boat, air, sea and land efforts included Arab nations as well as Europeans,
Canadians and Americans. Khadafy was told but then, you know, the lid was
taken off. You have a country that had been under the thumb of Khadafy and
his henchmen for 42 years. All institutions were destroyed. There was not
even a military because he didn't trust anybody since he had been a Colonel
who had done a coup, so he had mercenaries, there were African mercenaries
and some European mercenaries that were in his direct pay. They had really
just conducted themselves as if the entire Libyan oil fortune was personally
theirs.” [Clinton Remarks At Boston Consulting Group, 6/20/13]
Clinton Said Libya Could Not Provide Security “As We Found Much To, You
Know, Our Terrible Experience In Benghazi.” “So what happened? Well,
Khadafy is gone. They start to organize. They had one of the best
elections that any of these new countries had. They did not elect
extremists. They had a very good outcome of people representing the various
factions, but they didn't, they don't have a military. They can't provide
security as we found much to, you know, our terrible experience in Benghazi,
but we see it all over the country. So the jury is out but it is not for
lack of trying by the people who have inherited the positions of
responsibility.” [Clinton Remarks At Boston Consulting Group, 6/20/13]
Clinton: “My Biggest Regret Is The Loss Of Our Four Americans In Benghazi
With The Attack On Our Mission, Our Post There.” “My biggest regret is the
loss of our four Americans in Benghazi with the attack on our mission, our
post there. It wasn't a consulate. That was I knew the ambassador. I
had sent him there. I had picked him as someone during the Libyan
revolution to actually go to Benghazi, because he understood Libya, he spoke
great Arabic and French. And he built relationships with a lot of the
local people. And of course it was just devastating that there was this
attack on our post and on our CIA annex, which I can talk about now, because
it's all been made public. And that the kind of reliability that
governments have to count on from the governments in which they operate,
like we're responsible for the security ultimately of every embassy in
Washington. Well, the Libyan government has no capacity to deliver and the
people that we had contracted with were incapable or unwilling to do it. So
that was a deep regret. And you learn from these events, just as we have
over the last 30-plus years, where embassies have been attacked or taken
over, or the terrible events in Beirut in 1983-84. You learn from them, but
it always comes down to this very hard choice, should American civilians be
in dangerous places?” [Remarks at Cisco, 8/28/14]
Hillary Clinton Said Worst Event On Her Watch Was Benghazi, Saying It Was
Motivated By “Militias As The Others In Eastern Libya.” “Well, the worst
thing that happened on my watch was Benghazi. There is no doubt about that.
It was a terrible, tragic event that, you know, was motivated by, you know,
the militias and the others in eastern Libya and in which, unfortunately,
you know, killed four brave Americans, including one Chris Stevens, who I
knew quite well. I had sent him as a diplomat to Benghazi during the Libyan
uprising. He had served there. He spoke flawless Arabic. He knew a lot of
the people. He had been in Tripoli as our what's called Deputy Chief Of
Mission, DCM. We had to close the embassy because Gaddafi and his thugs were
threatening our diplomats. So Chris was back home, and when we saw what was
happening, I said, ‘You know, we need somebody to connect with the
uprising, the rebels, the militias.’ He held up his hand. He volunteered.
He went to Benghazi during the war, came back. I recommended him for
ambassador. Of course the President agreed. So he was out in Tripoli. He
really knew the country as well as any American and assessed that it was
important for him not to just be behind the walls, but to get out, and, you
know, really connect with Libyan leaders and citizens. And it was just a
terrible crime that he was killed doing what was really in the best
interests of both the United States and Libya.” [Hillary Clinton remarks to
Global Business Travelers Association, 8/7/13]
Big Government
Clinton: “My Father Raised Me To Be Suspicious Of Big Everything, Big
Government, Big Business, Big Anything.” “I'll just end by, you know, my
father was a rock-ribbed republican, he and my mother always split the votes
, they started what is called the gender gap in American politics, but my
father raised me to be suspicious of big everything, big government, big
business, big anything, you know, people lose touch with what really is
happening if they're not held accountable, if they don't have the right
information because it can't get to them, you are going to run into problems
. And so for me growing up with a small businessman father in the middle
west, having great experiences I've had in practicing law, in teaching law,
in working on public company boards and certainly, you know, serving in many
not for profit as well as public service positions, running for office,
holding office, winning, losing, yeah, I come out of it all even more
optimistic about our country, but I'm well aware that we have to get our act
together, and by getting our act together, we will be able to look at the
next hundred years as an American century that will have benefits for all of
us, and that's really my core conviction and what I will spend my time
trying to contribute to for the years to come.” [Hillary Clinton remarks at
Sanford Bernstein, 5/29/13]
Budget
Hillary Clinton: “You’ve Got To Have Spending Restraints And You’ve Got
To Have Some Revenues In Order To Stimulate Growth.” “And there are other
ways that we can put ourselves on a better footing, like passing a decent
immigration law and dealing with our budget and being smart about it and
realizing there is two sides to the equation. You’ve got to have spending
restraints and you’ve got to have some revenues in order to stimulate
growth.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Campaign Contributions
Clinton Said That Because Candidates Needed Money From Wall Street To Run
For Office, People In New York Needed To Ask Tough Questions About The
Economy Before Handing Over Campaign Contributions. “Secondly, running for
office in our country takes a lot of money, and candidates have to go out
and raise it. New York is probably the leading site for contributions for
fundraising for candidates on both sides of the aisle, and it's also our
economic center. And there are a lot of people here who should ask some
tough questions before handing over campaign contributions to people who
were really playing chicken with our whole economy.” [Goldman Sachs AIMS
Alternative Investments Symposium, 10/24/13]
Clinton: “It Would Be Very Difficult To Run For President Without Raising A
Huge Amount Of Money And Without Having Other People Supporting You Because
Your Opponent Will Have Their Supporters.” “So our system is, in many
ways, more difficult, certainly far more expensive and much longer than a
parliamentary system, and I really admire the people who subject themselves
to it. Even when I, you know, think they should not be elected president, I
still think, well, you know, good for you I guess, you're out there
promoting democracy and those crazy ideas of yours. So I think that it's
something -- I would like -- you know, obviously as somebody who has been
through it, I would like it not to last as long because I think it's very
distracting from what we should be doing every day in our public business.
I would like it not to be so expensive. I have no idea how you do that. I
mean, in my campaign -- I lose track, but I think I raised $250 million or
some such enormous amount, and in the last campaign President Obama raised 1
.1 billion, and that was before the Super PACs and all of this other money
just rushing in, and it's so ridiculous that we have this kind of free for
all with all of this financial interest at stake, but, you know, the Supreme
Court said that's basically what we're in for. So we're kind of in the
wild west, and, you know, it would be very difficult to run for president
without raising a huge amount of money and without having other people
supporting you because your opponent will have their supporters. So I think
as hard as it was when I ran, I think it's even harder now.” [Clinton
Speech For General Electric’s Global Leadership Meeting – Boca Raton, FL,
1/6/14]
2013: Hillary Clinton Said Someone Running For President In 2016 Would Need
To Be Raising Money “Sometime Next Year Or Early The Following The Year.”
“So let’s give some space and some attention to these issues instead of
who is going to run and what they’re going to do and: Oh, my gosh. What
is happening tomorrow? But if someone were going to run, given the process
of raising money, given the—you know, for better or worse I apparently have
about a hundred percent name recognition. Most of it my mother would say
is not true, but I live with it. So for me it might be slightly different
than for somebody else, but you certainly would have to be in raising money
sometime next year or early the following year.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs,
2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said She Admired Peter King Because He Told New York Donors
To Not Give Money To Republicans Who Voted Against Sandy Aid. “MS. CLINTON:
Well, you know, I really admire Peter King. He’s a Republican
representative from Long Island. He and I did a lot of work together after
9/11 on terrorism and all of that. But when the vote on Sandy came up—and
a lot of Republicans voted against aid for New York and New Jersey, Peter
King said to the New York funders: Don’t give any of them any money
because somehow you have to get their attention. So I thought it was pretty
clever. I know what it’s like. I mean, everybody is New York on Mondays.
” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said Politicians Treat NYC Like An ATM And “Political
Givers” Need To Tell Politicians “Here Are Things I Want You To Do For The
Country.” “So I think that we’re going to have to take seriously how we
fund disasters, but I think Peter’s point was a larger one, which is—you
know, New York is kind of an ATM machine for both Democrats and Republicans,
and people come up and they visit with many of you and they ask for money,
and often they’re given—if they’re coming they’re going to get it. And
at some point the American public—and particularly political givers—have
to say: Here—and it’s not just about me. It’s not just about my
personal standings. Here are things I want you to do for the country and be
part of that debate about the country.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013
IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton: “Those Who Help To Fund Elections, I Think It’s Important
That Business Leaders Make It Clear, Why Would You Give Money To Somebody
Who Was Willing To Wreck The Full Faith And Credit Of The United States.”
“And then it comes down to who we vote for and what kind of expectations we
set and who we give money to. Those who help to fund elections, I think it
’s important that business leaders make it clear, why would you give money
to somebody who was willing to wreck the full faith and credit of the United
States. I mean, that just makes no sense at all because the economic
repercussions would have been very bad, and the long-term consequences with,
you know, the Chinese saying, let’s de-Americanize the world and
eventually move to a different reserve currency wouldn’t be, you know,
beneficial, either.” [Goldman Sachs Builders And Innovators Summit, 10/29/
13]
China
Clinton Praised The New President Of China Xi Jinping As “Much More
Sophisticated” Than Hu Jintao, Praised His “Far-Reaching” Plans For
Economic And Social Reform. “Well, I think it is such a consequential
relationship. And the new president of China is a much more sophisticated
actor than his predecessor. He lived in the United States for a short
period of time, actually lived in Iowa on a -- on a farm. He was working in
agricultural issues within the Communist party, you know, about 30 years
ago. He is a better politician than his immediate predecessor, Hu Jintao.
He has consolidated his power quite quickly over the military and over the
Communist party. He has set forth a plan for economic reform, some of which
is quite far-reaching, and some social reform as well like, you know,
saying they're going to end, at least to some extent, the one-child policy.
” [Remarks to CME Group, 11/18/13]
Hillary Clinton Called Xi Jingping “He’s A More Sophisticated, More
Effective Public Leader Than Hu Jintao Was.” “I think it’s a good news/
maybe not so good news story about what is going on right now in China. On
the good news side I think the new leadership—and we’ll see more of that
when Xi Jinping gets here in the United States after having gone to Latin
America. He’s a more sophisticated, more effective public leader than Hu
Jintao was. He is political in the kind of generic sense of that word. You
can see him work a room, which I have watched him do. You can have him make
small talk with you, which he has done with me. His experience as a young
man coming to the United States in the 1980s—going to Iowa, spending time
there, living with a family—was a very important part of his own
development.” [Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4
/13]
• Hillary Clinton Said “He Understands The Different Levers And
The Constituencies That He Has To Work With Internally And Externally.” “
So he’s someone who you at least have the impression is a more worldly,
somewhat more experienced politician. And I say that as a term of praise,
because he understands the different levers and the constituencies that he
has to work with internally and externally. That’s especially important
because of the recent moves he’s making to consolidate power over the
military.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/
13]
Hillary Clinton Said Chinese Leaders Don’t Like People Knowing Most Of
Their Children Attend American Universities. “MR. BLANKFEIN: His daughter
is at Harvard? MS. CLINTON: Yes. They don’t like you to know that, but
most of the Chinese leadership children are at American universities or have
been. I said to one very, very high ranking Chinese official about a year,
year and a half ago—I said: I understand your daughter went to Wellesley.
He said: Who told you? I said: Okay. I don’t have to punish the person
then.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said “President Xi Is Doing Much More To Try To Assert His
Authority, And I Think That Is Also Good News.” “One of the biggest
concerns I had over the last four years was the concern that was manifested
several different ways that the PLA, the People’s Liberation Army, was
acting somewhat independently; that it wasn’t just a good cop/bad cop
routine when we would see some of the moves and some of the rhetoric coming
out of the PLA, but that in effect that were making some foreign policy.
And Hu Jintao, unlike Jiang Zemin before him, never really captured the
authority over the PLA that is essential for any government, whether it’s a
civilian government in our country or a communist party government in China
. So President Xi is doing much more to try to assert his authority, and I
think that is also good news.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo
Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Warned Of Rising Nationalism In China, Saying “I Had High
Chinese Officials In Their 60s And 50s Say To Me: We All Know Somebody Who
Was Killed By The Japanese During The War.” “On the not so good side
there is a resurgence of nationalism inside China that is being at least
condoned, if not actively pushed by the new Chinese government. You know,
Xi Jinping talks about the Chinese dream, which he means to be kind of the
Chinese version of the American dream. There has been a stoking of residual
anti-Japanese feelings inside China, not only in the leadership but in the
populace. It’s ostensibly over the dispute that is ongoing, but it’s
deeper than that and it is something that bears very careful watching.
Because in my last year, year and a half of meetings with the highest
officials in China the rhetoric about the Japanese was vicious, and I had
high Chinese officials in their 60s and 50s say to me: We all know somebody
who was killed by the Japanese during the war. We cannot let them resume
their nationalistic ways. You Americans are naive. You don’t see what is
happening below the surface of Japan society.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs,
2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said “The Biggest Supporters Of A Provocative North Korea
Has Been The PLA.” “Now, that looks back to an important connection of
what I said before. The biggest supporters of a provocative North Korea has
been the PLA. The deep connections between the military leadership in
China and in North Korea has really been the mainstay of the relationship.
So now all of a sudden new leadership with Xi and his team, and they’re
saying to the North Koreans—and by extension to the PLA—no. It is not
acceptable. We don’t need this right now. We’ve got other things going on
. So you’re going to have to pull back from your provocative actions,
start talking to South Koreans again about the free trade zones, the
business zones on the border, and get back to regular order and do it
quickly.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said She Warned China That If North Korea Continued
Developing Its Missle Program, The US Would “Ring China With Missile
Defense.” “You know, we all have told the Chinese if they continue to
develop this missile program and they get an ICBM that has the capacity to
carry a small nuclear weapon on it, which is what they’re aiming to do, we
cannot abide that. Because they could not only do damage to our treaty
allies, namely Japan and South Korea, but they could actually reach Hawaii
and the west coast theoretically, and we’re going to ring China with
missile defense. We’re going to put more of our fleet in the area. So China
, come on. You either control them or we’re going to have to defend
against them.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6
/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said The Chinese “Have A Right To Assert Themselves” In
The South China Sea But The US Needed To “Push Back” So They Don’t Get A
Chokehold Over World Trade.“48 percent of the world’s trade, obviously
that includes energy but includes everything else, goes through the South
China Sea. Some of you may have seen the long article in the New York Times
Magazine on the South China Sea this past weekend, an issue that I worked
on for the entire time was in the State Department because China basically
wants to control it. You can’t hold that against them. They have the
right to assert themselves. But if nobody’s there to push back to create a
balance, then they’re going to have a chokehold on the sea lanes and also
on the countries that border the South China Sea.” [Goldman Sachs Builders
And Innovators Summit, 10/29/13]
Hillary Clinton Said She Told The Chinese They Can’t Just Claim The South
China Sea And By Their Argument The US Could Claim The Pacific Because Of
World War Two. “I think that—you know, one of the greatest arguments that
I had on a continuing basis was with my Chinese counterparts about their
claim. And I made the point at one point in the argument that, you know,
you can call it whatever you want to call it. You don’t have a claim to
all of it. I said, by that argument, you know, the United States should
claim all of the Pacific. We liberated it, we defended it. We have as much
claim to all of the Pacific. And we could call it the American Sea, and it
could go from the West Coast of California all the way to the Philippines.
And, you know, my counterpart sat up very straight and goes, well, you can
’t do that. And I said, well, we have as much right to claim that as you
do. I mean, you claim it based on pottery shards from, you know, some
fishing vessel that ran aground in an atoll somewhere. You know, we had
conveys of military strength. We discovered Japan for Heaven sakes. I mean
, we did all of these things.” [Goldman Sachs Builders And Innovators
Summit, 10/29/13]
• Hillary Clinton Said The Chinese Said In That Case They Would
Claim Hawaii And She Joked They Would Give China A “Red State.” “MR.
BLANKFEIN: These are more technical conversations than I thought they would
be. (Laughter.) SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes, yes. And then he
says to me, well, you know, we’ll claim Hawaii. And I said, yeah, but we
have proof we bought it. Do you have proof you brought any of these places
you’re claiming? So we got into the nitty-gritty of -- MR.
BLANKFEIN: But they have to take New Jersey. (Laughter.)
SECRETARY CLINTON: No, no, no. We’re going to give them a red
state.” [Goldman Sachs Builders And Innovators Summit, 10/29/13]
Hillary Clinton Said The Most Important Advantage The US Has Over China Was
“Freedom.” “MALE ATTENDEE: Madam Secretary, what is the most important
competitive advantage that you think the U.S. will keep as compared to a
country like China? SECRETARY CLINTON: Freedom. I think
freedom. Freedom of the mind, freedom of movement, freedom of debate,
freedom of innovation. You know, I just—I don’t think we fully value—we
sometimes take it for granted, and we sometimes even dismiss it, how much
stronger we are. Because in addition to that individual freedom that we
have in great abundance compared to China, for example, we do have checks
and balances. We have constitutional order. We have protection of
intellectual property, we have a court system that we use for that purpose.
We have a lot of assets that support the free thinking and free acting of
individuals. And in the long run, that’s what I would place my bet on. I
think that is what gives us such a competitive advantage.” [Goldman Sachs
Builders And Innovators Summit, 10/29/13]
Hillary Clinton Said Freeing Chen Guangchen Was One Of Her Proudest Moments
As Secretary Of State. “On the opposite end was helping a blind Chinese
dissident get safety in the American Embassy in Beijing and then negotiating
with the Chinese to get him and his immediate family out of China. That was
one of those moments where you have to think hard about what America really
stands for so when I got a call late one night saying that Chen Guangcheng
had escaped from his house where he had been under house arrest, he’d been
picked up by sympathizers and he was on his way to Beijing and he wanted
safety in the American Embassy, there were many who said, ‘Don’t do it, we
’ll totally destroy our relationship with the Chinese government.’” [
Jewish United Fund Of Metropolitan Chicago Vanguard Luncheon, 10/28/13] | W***o
发帖数: 6519 | | B*********4
发帖数: 1387 | | W***9
发帖数: 4834 | 17 TRUMP 的竞选办公室地面组织比CLINTON差多了。我以受到CLINTON的投票广告至少十次
，而TRUMP是0。
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 18 那个不是地面工作，而是钱的问题。
花钱邮局给你送广告。
地面工作是靠人挨家挨户敲门。
【在 W***9 的大作中提到】
: TRUMP 的竞选办公室地面组织比CLINTON差多了。我以受到CLINTON的投票广告至少十次
: ，而TRUMP是0。
:
: 程。
: clinton
| l****p
发帖数: 27354 | 19 主流媒体的预测如果可信，川普早就在党内竞争中失败了/
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 事实上差太多了。fl有28%的gop投希拉里，简直不可想象。
| W***9
发帖数: 4834 | 20 我说的包括挨家挨户敲门或挂在门上的广告
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: 那个不是地面工作，而是钱的问题。
: 花钱邮局给你送广告。
: 地面工作是靠人挨家挨户敲门。
| | | h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | 21 对 我们这里也收到过2次了 床铺和党一次没有
: 我说的包括挨家挨户敲门或挂在门上的广告
【在 W***9 的大作中提到】
: 我说的包括挨家挨户敲门或挂在门上的广告
| d******y
发帖数: 2787 | 22 给AA和教师工会干将假故事涨(打)涨(肿)脸
三天不打还上房揭瓦了
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| h*******u
发帖数: 15326 | 23 瞧这傻逼样
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| h*******u
发帖数: 15326 | 24 丫搞aa主要是丫生的就是杂种
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
: 给AA和教师工会干将假故事涨(打)涨(肿)脸
: 三天不打还上房揭瓦了
:
: 程。
: clinton
| s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 25 哈佛iop研讨会上川爷方面说他们的ground game效果非常好贡献很大。因为他们有app
，行动人员一是不必须去field office，二是有target而不是盲目撒网。 | p****x
发帖数: 1376 | 26
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| j*********r
发帖数: 24733 | | j*********r
发帖数: 24733 | | f*******y
发帖数: 8358 | 29 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
党的本质就是基层组织力量。
我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
machine。
当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
现在nv和fl的early vote poll都出来了。投票人数超记录了。都是民主党组织的。
trump这个大笨蛋根本就不知道ground game是什么。
天天搞rally有屁用，那些人还是那些人，不会多一张票。
这时候就算nv和fl的poll领先也没用了。
game is over. | j**********r
发帖数: 3798 | 30 你丫有脸的话就知道FL 共和党居然还领先，这是landslide的节奏。
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| | | s******n
发帖数: 6806 | 31 2012年FL的early vote 就是共和党领先，
今年是比2012年领先的多了一丁点而已。
【在 j**********r 的大作中提到】
: 你丫有脸的话就知道FL 共和党居然还领先，这是landslide的节奏。
:
: 程。
: clinton
| f*******y
发帖数: 8358 | 32 呵呵
【在 b********e 的大作中提到】
: 伦伦们高兴就好
:
: 程。
: clinton
| H****S
发帖数: 1359 | 33 你家老头和希婆本就是穿一条裤子的，有维基解密邮件为证。你妈了这么多字自动丧失
credibility。
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| h******x
发帖数: 10156 | 34
程。
clinton
这个讲的有道理。希婆搞了很久选举了，比川普有经验多了
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | 35 傻娃 拉渴水的牛出来喝水和强按牛头喝水是两种工作 难度天差地别 别把ground game
当万能的 | v**d
发帖数: 574 | 36 地面活动床铺不是有无数自带干粮的人吗，这次应该不输主党了吧 | g****y
发帖数: 2810 | 37 民主党万岁
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| f*******y
发帖数: 8358 | 38 事实上差太多了。fl有28%的gop投希拉里，简直不可想象。
【在 v**d 的大作中提到】
: 地面活动床铺不是有无数自带干粮的人吗，这次应该不输主党了吧
| h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | 39 你这数据有出处么 今年总体趋势是主党投和党的多于和党投主党的
: 事实上差太多了。fl有28%的gop投希拉里，简直不可想象。
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 事实上差太多了。fl有28%的gop投希拉里，简直不可想象。
| f*******y
发帖数: 8358 | 40 自己google 啊。很多正规媒体都报道了。
这个和你们相信的假新闻，谣言不一样。
【在 h*******n 的大作中提到】
: 你这数据有出处么 今年总体趋势是主党投和党的多于和党投主党的
:
:
: 事实上差太多了。fl有28%的gop投希拉里，简直不可想象。
:
| | | M******e
发帖数: 1193 | 41 Benghazi/Libya
Hillary Clinton Discussed Libya’s Struggles After Gaddafi’s Fall. “In
Libya, they had one of the best elections in the whole region after the fall
of Gaddafi, but they've not been able to assert control over the security
of their nation in any way yet. So they have a lot of the right impulses and
desires, but don't know how to move the levers of authority to provide
security for citizens, business interests and the like.” [Hamilton College
Speech, 10/4/13]
Clinton Said Libya Was A Challenging Situation And That Benghazi Was Very
Much On Her Mind. “Libya is a very challenging situation for everybody.
There the people of Libya wanted help. Neither the United States nor Arab
countries imposed their campaign against Gaddafi on them. They were
demonstrating. He was going after them. We helped in an unprecedented
coalition between NATO and the Arab League. Gaddafi is thrown off, but,
remember, this is a man who did not permit any institution to be firmly
established. He didn't have an army because he came out of the army, and he
knew that if he had an army somebody like him might come out after him. So
he had mercenaries, and militias were heavily armed, largely with the
weaponry they stole from Gaddafi's storehouses. They had an election, which
was really a promising election, broad cross-section of people elected, but
they're insecure, and a government's first job is to secure its people, and
they can't figure out how to do it, and it's a big debate in our country and
Europe what can we do to help them because, you know, obviously I'm sitting
up here with Benghazi very much, you know, in my mind. You try to help,
you try to create relationships, and, you know, the hard guys with the guns
have a different idea. So if you don't have overwhelming force, it's
difficult. So Libya is an open book yet.” [Clinton Speech For General
Electric’s Global Leadership Meeting – Boca Raton, FL, 1/6/14]
Clinton Discussed Lack Of Institutions In Libya After Gaddafi’s Fall. “Now
, you know, in Libya, the United Nations voted how to protect civilians.
And the coalition that was put together was unprecedented. It was NATO plus
the Arab League. That had never happened before. The over flights, the
boat, air, sea and land efforts included Arab nations as well as Europeans,
Canadians and Americans. Khadafy was told but then, you know, the lid was
taken off. You have a country that had been under the thumb of Khadafy and
his henchmen for 42 years. All institutions were destroyed. There was not
even a military because he didn't trust anybody since he had been a Colonel
who had done a coup, so he had mercenaries, there were African mercenaries
and some European mercenaries that were in his direct pay. They had really
just conducted themselves as if the entire Libyan oil fortune was personally
theirs.” [Clinton Remarks At Boston Consulting Group, 6/20/13]
Clinton Said Libya Could Not Provide Security “As We Found Much To, You
Know, Our Terrible Experience In Benghazi.” “So what happened? Well,
Khadafy is gone. They start to organize. They had one of the best
elections that any of these new countries had. They did not elect
extremists. They had a very good outcome of people representing the various
factions, but they didn't, they don't have a military. They can't provide
security as we found much to, you know, our terrible experience in Benghazi,
but we see it all over the country. So the jury is out but it is not for
lack of trying by the people who have inherited the positions of
responsibility.” [Clinton Remarks At Boston Consulting Group, 6/20/13]
Clinton: “My Biggest Regret Is The Loss Of Our Four Americans In Benghazi
With The Attack On Our Mission, Our Post There.” “My biggest regret is the
loss of our four Americans in Benghazi with the attack on our mission, our
post there. It wasn't a consulate. That was I knew the ambassador. I
had sent him there. I had picked him as someone during the Libyan
revolution to actually go to Benghazi, because he understood Libya, he spoke
great Arabic and French. And he built relationships with a lot of the
local people. And of course it was just devastating that there was this
attack on our post and on our CIA annex, which I can talk about now, because
it's all been made public. And that the kind of reliability that
governments have to count on from the governments in which they operate,
like we're responsible for the security ultimately of every embassy in
Washington. Well, the Libyan government has no capacity to deliver and the
people that we had contracted with were incapable or unwilling to do it. So
that was a deep regret. And you learn from these events, just as we have
over the last 30-plus years, where embassies have been attacked or taken
over, or the terrible events in Beirut in 1983-84. You learn from them, but
it always comes down to this very hard choice, should American civilians be
in dangerous places?” [Remarks at Cisco, 8/28/14]
Hillary Clinton Said Worst Event On Her Watch Was Benghazi, Saying It Was
Motivated By “Militias As The Others In Eastern Libya.” “Well, the worst
thing that happened on my watch was Benghazi. There is no doubt about that.
It was a terrible, tragic event that, you know, was motivated by, you know,
the militias and the others in eastern Libya and in which, unfortunately,
you know, killed four brave Americans, including one Chris Stevens, who I
knew quite well. I had sent him as a diplomat to Benghazi during the Libyan
uprising. He had served there. He spoke flawless Arabic. He knew a lot of
the people. He had been in Tripoli as our what's called Deputy Chief Of
Mission, DCM. We had to close the embassy because Gaddafi and his thugs were
threatening our diplomats. So Chris was back home, and when we saw what was
happening, I said, ‘You know, we need somebody to connect with the
uprising, the rebels, the militias.’ He held up his hand. He volunteered.
He went to Benghazi during the war, came back. I recommended him for
ambassador. Of course the President agreed. So he was out in Tripoli. He
really knew the country as well as any American and assessed that it was
important for him not to just be behind the walls, but to get out, and, you
know, really connect with Libyan leaders and citizens. And it was just a
terrible crime that he was killed doing what was really in the best
interests of both the United States and Libya.” [Hillary Clinton remarks to
Global Business Travelers Association, 8/7/13]
Big Government
Clinton: “My Father Raised Me To Be Suspicious Of Big Everything, Big
Government, Big Business, Big Anything.” “I'll just end by, you know, my
father was a rock-ribbed republican, he and my mother always split the votes
, they started what is called the gender gap in American politics, but my
father raised me to be suspicious of big everything, big government, big
business, big anything, you know, people lose touch with what really is
happening if they're not held accountable, if they don't have the right
information because it can't get to them, you are going to run into problems
. And so for me growing up with a small businessman father in the middle
west, having great experiences I've had in practicing law, in teaching law,
in working on public company boards and certainly, you know, serving in many
not for profit as well as public service positions, running for office,
holding office, winning, losing, yeah, I come out of it all even more
optimistic about our country, but I'm well aware that we have to get our act
together, and by getting our act together, we will be able to look at the
next hundred years as an American century that will have benefits for all of
us, and that's really my core conviction and what I will spend my time
trying to contribute to for the years to come.” [Hillary Clinton remarks at
Sanford Bernstein, 5/29/13]
Budget
Hillary Clinton: “You’ve Got To Have Spending Restraints And You’ve Got
To Have Some Revenues In Order To Stimulate Growth.” “And there are other
ways that we can put ourselves on a better footing, like passing a decent
immigration law and dealing with our budget and being smart about it and
realizing there is two sides to the equation. You’ve got to have spending
restraints and you’ve got to have some revenues in order to stimulate
growth.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Campaign Contributions
Clinton Said That Because Candidates Needed Money From Wall Street To Run
For Office, People In New York Needed To Ask Tough Questions About The
Economy Before Handing Over Campaign Contributions. “Secondly, running for
office in our country takes a lot of money, and candidates have to go out
and raise it. New York is probably the leading site for contributions for
fundraising for candidates on both sides of the aisle, and it's also our
economic center. And there are a lot of people here who should ask some
tough questions before handing over campaign contributions to people who
were really playing chicken with our whole economy.” [Goldman Sachs AIMS
Alternative Investments Symposium, 10/24/13]
Clinton: “It Would Be Very Difficult To Run For President Without Raising A
Huge Amount Of Money And Without Having Other People Supporting You Because
Your Opponent Will Have Their Supporters.” “So our system is, in many
ways, more difficult, certainly far more expensive and much longer than a
parliamentary system, and I really admire the people who subject themselves
to it. Even when I, you know, think they should not be elected president, I
still think, well, you know, good for you I guess, you're out there
promoting democracy and those crazy ideas of yours. So I think that it's
something -- I would like -- you know, obviously as somebody who has been
through it, I would like it not to last as long because I think it's very
distracting from what we should be doing every day in our public business.
I would like it not to be so expensive. I have no idea how you do that. I
mean, in my campaign -- I lose track, but I think I raised $250 million or
some such enormous amount, and in the last campaign President Obama raised 1
.1 billion, and that was before the Super PACs and all of this other money
just rushing in, and it's so ridiculous that we have this kind of free for
all with all of this financial interest at stake, but, you know, the Supreme
Court said that's basically what we're in for. So we're kind of in the
wild west, and, you know, it would be very difficult to run for president
without raising a huge amount of money and without having other people
supporting you because your opponent will have their supporters. So I think
as hard as it was when I ran, I think it's even harder now.” [Clinton
Speech For General Electric’s Global Leadership Meeting – Boca Raton, FL,
1/6/14]
2013: Hillary Clinton Said Someone Running For President In 2016 Would Need
To Be Raising Money “Sometime Next Year Or Early The Following The Year.”
“So let’s give some space and some attention to these issues instead of
who is going to run and what they’re going to do and: Oh, my gosh. What
is happening tomorrow? But if someone were going to run, given the process
of raising money, given the—you know, for better or worse I apparently have
about a hundred percent name recognition. Most of it my mother would say
is not true, but I live with it. So for me it might be slightly different
than for somebody else, but you certainly would have to be in raising money
sometime next year or early the following year.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs,
2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said She Admired Peter King Because He Told New York Donors
To Not Give Money To Republicans Who Voted Against Sandy Aid. “MS. CLINTON:
Well, you know, I really admire Peter King. He’s a Republican
representative from Long Island. He and I did a lot of work together after
9/11 on terrorism and all of that. But when the vote on Sandy came up—and
a lot of Republicans voted against aid for New York and New Jersey, Peter
King said to the New York funders: Don’t give any of them any money
because somehow you have to get their attention. So I thought it was pretty
clever. I know what it’s like. I mean, everybody is New York on Mondays.
” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said Politicians Treat NYC Like An ATM And “Political
Givers” Need To Tell Politicians “Here Are Things I Want You To Do For The
Country.” “So I think that we’re going to have to take seriously how we
fund disasters, but I think Peter’s point was a larger one, which is—you
know, New York is kind of an ATM machine for both Democrats and Republicans,
and people come up and they visit with many of you and they ask for money,
and often they’re given—if they’re coming they’re going to get it. And
at some point the American public—and particularly political givers—have
to say: Here—and it’s not just about me. It’s not just about my
personal standings. Here are things I want you to do for the country and be
part of that debate about the country.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013
IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton: “Those Who Help To Fund Elections, I Think It’s Important
That Business Leaders Make It Clear, Why Would You Give Money To Somebody
Who Was Willing To Wreck The Full Faith And Credit Of The United States.”
“And then it comes down to who we vote for and what kind of expectations we
set and who we give money to. Those who help to fund elections, I think it
’s important that business leaders make it clear, why would you give money
to somebody who was willing to wreck the full faith and credit of the United
States. I mean, that just makes no sense at all because the economic
repercussions would have been very bad, and the long-term consequences with,
you know, the Chinese saying, let’s de-Americanize the world and
eventually move to a different reserve currency wouldn’t be, you know,
beneficial, either.” [Goldman Sachs Builders And Innovators Summit, 10/29/
13]
China
Clinton Praised The New President Of China Xi Jinping As “Much More
Sophisticated” Than Hu Jintao, Praised His “Far-Reaching” Plans For
Economic And Social Reform. “Well, I think it is such a consequential
relationship. And the new president of China is a much more sophisticated
actor than his predecessor. He lived in the United States for a short
period of time, actually lived in Iowa on a -- on a farm. He was working in
agricultural issues within the Communist party, you know, about 30 years
ago. He is a better politician than his immediate predecessor, Hu Jintao.
He has consolidated his power quite quickly over the military and over the
Communist party. He has set forth a plan for economic reform, some of which
is quite far-reaching, and some social reform as well like, you know,
saying they're going to end, at least to some extent, the one-child policy.
” [Remarks to CME Group, 11/18/13]
Hillary Clinton Called Xi Jingping “He’s A More Sophisticated, More
Effective Public Leader Than Hu Jintao Was.” “I think it’s a good news/
maybe not so good news story about what is going on right now in China. On
the good news side I think the new leadership—and we’ll see more of that
when Xi Jinping gets here in the United States after having gone to Latin
America. He’s a more sophisticated, more effective public leader than Hu
Jintao was. He is political in the kind of generic sense of that word. You
can see him work a room, which I have watched him do. You can have him make
small talk with you, which he has done with me. His experience as a young
man coming to the United States in the 1980s—going to Iowa, spending time
there, living with a family—was a very important part of his own
development.” [Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4
/13]
• Hillary Clinton Said “He Understands The Different Levers And
The Constituencies That He Has To Work With Internally And Externally.” “
So he’s someone who you at least have the impression is a more worldly,
somewhat more experienced politician. And I say that as a term of praise,
because he understands the different levers and the constituencies that he
has to work with internally and externally. That’s especially important
because of the recent moves he’s making to consolidate power over the
military.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/
13]
Hillary Clinton Said Chinese Leaders Don’t Like People Knowing Most Of
Their Children Attend American Universities. “MR. BLANKFEIN: His daughter
is at Harvard? MS. CLINTON: Yes. They don’t like you to know that, but
most of the Chinese leadership children are at American universities or have
been. I said to one very, very high ranking Chinese official about a year,
year and a half ago—I said: I understand your daughter went to Wellesley.
He said: Who told you? I said: Okay. I don’t have to punish the person
then.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said “President Xi Is Doing Much More To Try To Assert His
Authority, And I Think That Is Also Good News.” “One of the biggest
concerns I had over the last four years was the concern that was manifested
several different ways that the PLA, the People’s Liberation Army, was
acting somewhat independently; that it wasn’t just a good cop/bad cop
routine when we would see some of the moves and some of the rhetoric coming
out of the PLA, but that in effect that were making some foreign policy.
And Hu Jintao, unlike Jiang Zemin before him, never really captured the
authority over the PLA that is essential for any government, whether it’s a
civilian government in our country or a communist party government in China
. So President Xi is doing much more to try to assert his authority, and I
think that is also good news.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo
Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Warned Of Rising Nationalism In China, Saying “I Had High
Chinese Officials In Their 60s And 50s Say To Me: We All Know Somebody Who
Was Killed By The Japanese During The War.” “On the not so good side
there is a resurgence of nationalism inside China that is being at least
condoned, if not actively pushed by the new Chinese government. You know,
Xi Jinping talks about the Chinese dream, which he means to be kind of the
Chinese version of the American dream. There has been a stoking of residual
anti-Japanese feelings inside China, not only in the leadership but in the
populace. It’s ostensibly over the dispute that is ongoing, but it’s
deeper than that and it is something that bears very careful watching.
Because in my last year, year and a half of meetings with the highest
officials in China the rhetoric about the Japanese was vicious, and I had
high Chinese officials in their 60s and 50s say to me: We all know somebody
who was killed by the Japanese during the war. We cannot let them resume
their nationalistic ways. You Americans are naive. You don’t see what is
happening below the surface of Japan society.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs,
2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said “The Biggest Supporters Of A Provocative North Korea
Has Been The PLA.” “Now, that looks back to an important connection of
what I said before. The biggest supporters of a provocative North Korea has
been the PLA. The deep connections between the military leadership in
China and in North Korea has really been the mainstay of the relationship.
So now all of a sudden new leadership with Xi and his team, and they’re
saying to the North Koreans—and by extension to the PLA—no. It is not
acceptable. We don’t need this right now. We’ve got other things going on
. So you’re going to have to pull back from your provocative actions,
start talking to South Koreans again about the free trade zones, the
business zones on the border, and get back to regular order and do it
quickly.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said She Warned China That If North Korea Continued
Developing Its Missle Program, The US Would “Ring China With Missile
Defense.” “You know, we all have told the Chinese if they continue to
develop this missile program and they get an ICBM that has the capacity to
carry a small nuclear weapon on it, which is what they’re aiming to do, we
cannot abide that. Because they could not only do damage to our treaty
allies, namely Japan and South Korea, but they could actually reach Hawaii
and the west coast theoretically, and we’re going to ring China with
missile defense. We’re going to put more of our fleet in the area. So China
, come on. You either control them or we’re going to have to defend
against them.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6
/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said The Chinese “Have A Right To Assert Themselves” In
The South China Sea But The US Needed To “Push Back” So They Don’t Get A
Chokehold Over World Trade.“48 percent of the world’s trade, obviously
that includes energy but includes everything else, goes through the South
China Sea. Some of you may have seen the long article in the New York Times
Magazine on the South China Sea this past weekend, an issue that I worked
on for the entire time was in the State Department because China basically
wants to control it. You can’t hold that against them. They have the
right to assert themselves. But if nobody’s there to push back to create a
balance, then they’re going to have a chokehold on the sea lanes and also
on the countries that border the South China Sea.” [Goldman Sachs Builders
And Innovators Summit, 10/29/13]
Hillary Clinton Said She Told The Chinese They Can’t Just Claim The South
China Sea And By Their Argument The US Could Claim The Pacific Because Of
World War Two. “I think that—you know, one of the greatest arguments that
I had on a continuing basis was with my Chinese counterparts about their
claim. And I made the point at one point in the argument that, you know,
you can call it whatever you want to call it. You don’t have a claim to
all of it. I said, by that argument, you know, the United States should
claim all of the Pacific. We liberated it, we defended it. We have as much
claim to all of the Pacific. And we could call it the American Sea, and it
could go from the West Coast of California all the way to the Philippines.
And, you know, my counterpart sat up very straight and goes, well, you can
’t do that. And I said, well, we have as much right to claim that as you
do. I mean, you claim it based on pottery shards from, you know, some
fishing vessel that ran aground in an atoll somewhere. You know, we had
conveys of military strength. We discovered Japan for Heaven sakes. I mean
, we did all of these things.” [Goldman Sachs Builders And Innovators
Summit, 10/29/13]
• Hillary Clinton Said The Chinese Said In That Case They Would
Claim Hawaii And She Joked They Would Give China A “Red State.” “MR.
BLANKFEIN: These are more technical conversations than I thought they would
be. (Laughter.) SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes, yes. And then he
says to me, well, you know, we’ll claim Hawaii. And I said, yeah, but we
have proof we bought it. Do you have proof you brought any of these places
you’re claiming? So we got into the nitty-gritty of -- MR.
BLANKFEIN: But they have to take New Jersey. (Laughter.)
SECRETARY CLINTON: No, no, no. We’re going to give them a red
state.” [Goldman Sachs Builders And Innovators Summit, 10/29/13]
Hillary Clinton Said The Most Important Advantage The US Has Over China Was
“Freedom.” “MALE ATTENDEE: Madam Secretary, what is the most important
competitive advantage that you think the U.S. will keep as compared to a
country like China? SECRETARY CLINTON: Freedom. I think
freedom. Freedom of the mind, freedom of movement, freedom of debate,
freedom of innovation. You know, I just—I don’t think we fully value—we
sometimes take it for granted, and we sometimes even dismiss it, how much
stronger we are. Because in addition to that individual freedom that we
have in great abundance compared to China, for example, we do have checks
and balances. We have constitutional order. We have protection of
intellectual property, we have a court system that we use for that purpose.
We have a lot of assets that support the free thinking and free acting of
individuals. And in the long run, that’s what I would place my bet on. I
think that is what gives us such a competitive advantage.” [Goldman Sachs
Builders And Innovators Summit, 10/29/13]
Hillary Clinton Said Freeing Chen Guangchen Was One Of Her Proudest Moments
As Secretary Of State. “On the opposite end was helping a blind Chinese
dissident get safety in the American Embassy in Beijing and then negotiating
with the Chinese to get him and his immediate family out of China. That was
one of those moments where you have to think hard about what America really
stands for so when I got a call late one night saying that Chen Guangcheng
had escaped from his house where he had been under house arrest, he’d been
picked up by sympathizers and he was on his way to Beijing and he wanted
safety in the American Embassy, there were many who said, ‘Don’t do it, we
’ll totally destroy our relationship with the Chinese government.’” [
Jewish United Fund Of Metropolitan Chicago Vanguard Luncheon, 10/28/13] | W***o
发帖数: 6519 | | B*********4
发帖数: 1387 | | W***9
发帖数: 4834 | 44 TRUMP 的竞选办公室地面组织比CLINTON差多了。我以受到CLINTON的投票广告至少十次
，而TRUMP是0。
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 45 那个不是地面工作，而是钱的问题。
花钱邮局给你送广告。
地面工作是靠人挨家挨户敲门。
【在 W***9 的大作中提到】
: TRUMP 的竞选办公室地面组织比CLINTON差多了。我以受到CLINTON的投票广告至少十次
: ，而TRUMP是0。
:
: 程。
: clinton
| l****p
发帖数: 27354 | 46 主流媒体的预测如果可信，川普早就在党内竞争中失败了/
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 事实上差太多了。fl有28%的gop投希拉里，简直不可想象。
| W***9
发帖数: 4834 | 47 我说的包括挨家挨户敲门或挂在门上的广告
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: 那个不是地面工作，而是钱的问题。
: 花钱邮局给你送广告。
: 地面工作是靠人挨家挨户敲门。
| h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | 48 对 我们这里也收到过2次了 床铺和党一次没有
: 我说的包括挨家挨户敲门或挂在门上的广告
【在 W***9 的大作中提到】
: 我说的包括挨家挨户敲门或挂在门上的广告
| d******y
发帖数: 2787 | 49 给AA和教师工会干将假故事涨(打)涨(肿)脸
三天不打还上房揭瓦了
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| h*******u
发帖数: 15326 | 50 瞧这傻逼样
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
| | | h*******u
发帖数: 15326 | 51 丫搞aa主要是丫生的就是杂种
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
: 给AA和教师工会干将假故事涨(打)涨(肿)脸
: 三天不打还上房揭瓦了
:
: 程。
: clinton
| s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 52 哈佛iop研讨会上川爷方面说他们的ground game效果非常好贡献很大。因为他们有app
，行动人员一是不必须去field office，二是有target而不是盲目撒网。 | p****x
发帖数: 1376 | 53
程。
clinton
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你们对美国大选没有经验的话，才会觉得poll重要。
: 美国大选最重要的是ground game。就是把人组织起来去投票。
: 这就是为什么美国两党为什么这么强大，别的党没有生存空间。
: 党的本质就是基层组织力量。
: 我在今年上半年经行选举科普的时候就说了，为什么clinton被称为cltion machine。
: 因为她在竞选一开始就在50个州都设立了竞选办公室，地面组织就开始进行了。
: 我作为sanders粉，捐过很多钱，参加过义工。仔细track过和研究过sanders竞选过程。
: sanders的rally也是动辄好几万人。但是ground game凭粉丝志愿者根本搞不过clinton
: machine。
: 当然sanders是老政治家，对ground game非常重视。但是即使如此也不行。
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