r**e
发帖数: 57 | 1 Want to choose one for my future use, currently always use pico :)
Which one is more popular and which one is more user friendly?
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i***e
发帖数: 3219 | 2 both are very powerful and popular. maybe vi is a little more
efficient, but emacs a little more "user friendly". and emacs
can do a lot more things other than editting.
【在 r**e 的大作中提到】
: Want to choose one for my future use, currently always use pico :)
: Which one is more popular and which one is more user friendly?
: Thanks.
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c******n
发帖数: 4965 | 3 vi
【在 r**e 的大作中提到】
: Want to choose one for my future use, currently always use pico :)
: Which one is more popular and which one is more user friendly?
: Thanks.
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m******o
发帖数: 33 | 4 you are asking a religious question.
【在 r**e 的大作中提到】
: Want to choose one for my future use, currently always use pico :)
: Which one is more popular and which one is more user friendly?
: Thanks.
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a****y
发帖数: 1035 | 5 emacs has more functions, better UI, and many customizations.
I also use vi for simple editting.
【在 r**e 的大作中提到】
: Want to choose one for my future use, currently always use pico :)
: Which one is more popular and which one is more user friendly?
: Thanks.
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D**e
发帖数: 10169 | 6 emacs is better if you work locally. remotely, vi is much faster.
【在 a****y 的大作中提到】
: emacs has more functions, better UI, and many customizations.
: I also use vi for simple editting.
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c**t
发帖数: 38 | 7 i like vi
【在 D**e 的大作中提到】
: emacs is better if you work locally. remotely, vi is much faster.
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w*******g
发帖数: 99 | 8 There are plenty of discussions about this... Read previous post and I don't
want to read more debate about this no more , :-)
【在 r**e 的大作中提到】
: Want to choose one for my future use, currently always use pico :)
: Which one is more popular and which one is more user friendly?
: Thanks.
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a*******x
发帖数: 47 | 9 Used to be true, but with the help of tramp. you can edit remote files
within a local emacs session, quite fast.
【在 D**e 的大作中提到】
: emacs is better if you work locally. remotely, vi is much faster.
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c*****e
发帖数: 32 | 10 It's hard to compare them as comparing oranges with appples.
Below I attached somebody's reply to this question in news://comp.emacs
You may want check all the answers about this question in that news group
Here goes the reply by David Kastrup: |
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R****r
发帖数: 227 | 11 if you are a serious computer scientist, you should use emacs
【在 r**e 的大作中提到】
: Want to choose one for my future use, currently always use pico :)
: Which one is more popular and which one is more user friendly?
: Thanks.
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a*******x
发帖数: 47 | 12 Yes, especially GNU Emacs---
Generally Not Use Except Middle Age Computer Scientist. :)
【在 R****r 的大作中提到】
: if you are a serious computer scientist, you should use emacs
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R****r
发帖数: 227 | 13 反正我这里所有的老头和青壮年基本都用emacs
【在 a*******x 的大作中提到】
: Yes, especially GNU Emacs---
: Generally Not Use Except Middle Age Computer Scientist. :)
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i***e
发帖数: 3219 | 14 see a heated discussion about this issue in
software board-->jin1 hua2 qu1-->unix softwares-->editors-->
"which unix editor is better"
【在 r**e 的大作中提到】
: Want to choose one for my future use, currently always use pico :)
: Which one is more popular and which one is more user friendly?
: Thanks.
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c*****e
发帖数: 32 | 15 Your point is funny!
You meant anyone who's using vi/vim was not serious computer scientist?
So what is your definition of a "computer scientist"?
It sounds like the same logic of "if you don't drink you are not a true man".
【在 R****r 的大作中提到】
: if you are a serious computer scientist, you should use emacs
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n******t
发帖数: 4406 | 16 那是老头给熏陶的.
【在 R****r 的大作中提到】
: 反正我这里所有的老头和青壮年基本都用emacs
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R****r
发帖数: 227 | 17 my point is not funny, but statistical truth. at least in our dept,
almost every faculty and student do their mail/news/program/latex
in emacs. and it's cool in some aspects.
vi is easy to learn and use, emacs is powerful and user-friendly,
they are not contradictory. as a beginner he should hack vi first,
then try to learn emacs.
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: Your point is funny!
: You meant anyone who's using vi/vim was not serious computer scientist?
: So what is your definition of a "computer scientist"?
: It sounds like the same logic of "if you don't drink you are not a true man".
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r**a
发帖数: 630 | 18 pi
【在 R****r 的大作中提到】
: if you are a serious computer scientist, you should use emacs
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d****i
发帖数: 4354 | 19 why not learn both? they are not so hard actually
【在 r**e 的大作中提到】
: Want to choose one for my future use, currently always use pico :)
: Which one is more popular and which one is more user friendly?
: Thanks.
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T********r
发帖数: 6210 | 20 faint, it seems I am not a serious computer scientist, and even worse I
do not have any plan to be a serious computer scientist. :-))) But I am
still happy with vi everyday.
【在 R****r 的大作中提到】
: my point is not funny, but statistical truth. at least in our dept,
: almost every faculty and student do their mail/news/program/latex
: in emacs. and it's cool in some aspects.
: vi is easy to learn and use, emacs is powerful and user-friendly,
: they are not contradictory. as a beginner he should hack vi first,
: then try to learn emacs.
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i***e
发帖数: 3219 | 21 I'm not a computer scientist, but i'm using emacs everyday. :)
sometimes use vi for quick editting tasks too. vi launches faster
than a heavily customized emacs.
【在 R****r 的大作中提到】
: if you are a serious computer scientist, you should use emacs
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p**v
发帖数: 853 | 22 ha.......
【在 r**a 的大作中提到】
: pi
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p**v
发帖数: 853 | 23 cannot understand the logic because it does not make sense at all.
it is only an editor, cannot tell anything about the quality of the work. |
p**v
发帖数: 853 | 24 surely you are not a serious computer scientist since you spend a
lot of time watering here :-)
【在 T********r 的大作中提到】
: faint, it seems I am not a serious computer scientist, and even worse I
: do not have any plan to be a serious computer scientist. :-))) But I am
: still happy with vi everyday.
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D****g
发帖数: 2860 | 25 hehe, it is really becoming very religious.
【在 p**v 的大作中提到】
: cannot understand the logic because it does not make sense at all.
: it is only an editor, cannot tell anything about the quality of the work.
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T********r
发帖数: 6210 | 26 Ok, now we get two criterions to be a serious computer scientist:
1. use emacs, if you use vi, you are not.
2. spend little or no time watering on bbs.
I am just wondering if there are other more criterions? ;-))))))
【在 p**v 的大作中提到】
: surely you are not a serious computer scientist since you spend a
: lot of time watering here :-)
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R****r
发帖数: 227 | 27 use emacs != never use vi
i think most people who use emacs a lot can also use vi easily,
but those who always use vi may not be familiar with emacs, and
they strongly resist to learn emacs!
【在 T********r 的大作中提到】
: Ok, now we get two criterions to be a serious computer scientist:
: 1. use emacs, if you use vi, you are not.
: 2. spend little or no time watering on bbs.
: I am just wondering if there are other more criterions? ;-))))))
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c******n
发帖数: 4965 | 28 I think vi is more effcient in terms of key strokes
you have to do to finish a function,
like moving around, you have to press Ctrl in emacs,
but in vi, it's right under you finger.
about functions, there're many
plug-ins,
for c file editing, I use ctags and cscope,
I usually do ctags -R . first
you can also use syntax highlighting,
supports c,cpp,awk,pl,sh,tex,ps,.......
most importantly, I think it's faster
but some old guys in our lab just use cat
when typing a small script
W
【在 R****r 的大作中提到】
: use emacs != never use vi
: i think most people who use emacs a lot can also use vi easily,
: but those who always use vi may not be familiar with emacs, and
: they strongly resist to learn emacs!
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D****g
发帖数: 2860 | 29 但是vi要在各个状态之间换来换去也挺烦的。我还是宁愿按ctrl.
我承认vi的效率是比emacs高。不过写程序或paper的时候最慢的瓶颈
还是大脑:)
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】
: I think vi is more effcient in terms of key strokes
: you have to do to finish a function,
: like moving around, you have to press Ctrl in emacs,
: but in vi, it's right under you finger.
: about functions, there're many
: plug-ins,
: for c file editing, I use ctags and cscope,
: I usually do ctags -R . first
: you can also use syntax highlighting,
: supports c,cpp,awk,pl,sh,tex,ps,.......
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l******t
发帖数: 108 | 30
in vi you'll always need ':'= Shift+ ';', so if you
remap the Caps Lock to Ctrl, it's right under your finger
too.
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】
: I think vi is more effcient in terms of key strokes
: you have to do to finish a function,
: like moving around, you have to press Ctrl in emacs,
: but in vi, it's right under you finger.
: about functions, there're many
: plug-ins,
: for c file editing, I use ctags and cscope,
: I usually do ctags -R . first
: you can also use syntax highlighting,
: supports c,cpp,awk,pl,sh,tex,ps,.......
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i***e
发帖数: 3219 | 31 how can i remap Caps to Ctrl? whoever designed the current
keyboard is totally an idiot for emacs. kick him!
【在 l******t 的大作中提到】
:
: in vi you'll always need ':'= Shift+ ';', so if you
: remap the Caps Lock to Ctrl, it's right under your finger
: too.
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p****s
发帖数: 3184 | 32
Under Windows, there is a small package called "ctrl2cap" or
something similar.
Under XFree86, there is a keyboard option can switch ctrl and cap,
check /etc/XConfig and search the string, uncomment the line, restart
your X server or restart the machine.
【在 i***e 的大作中提到】
: how can i remap Caps to Ctrl? whoever designed the current
: keyboard is totally an idiot for emacs. kick him!
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D****g
发帖数: 2860 | 33 why? 我觉得很好用阿.我一般把左手的小指头卷一下,用中间那个指节按
ctrl.那种ctrl和capslock反过来的键盘我反而觉得不舒服,经常不小心就碰了
capslock.
我suppose你xmodmap一下就可以把capslock和ctrl反过来了吧.
【在 i***e 的大作中提到】
: how can i remap Caps to Ctrl? whoever designed the current
: keyboard is totally an idiot for emacs. kick him!
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