f**********r
发帖数: 18251 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Boston 讨论区 】
发信人: fatblackliar (轻风拂山岗), 信区: Boston
标 题: 康州学校枪击死亡27人
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 14 13:15:30 2012, 美东)
RT |
w*******e
发帖数: 276 | 2 http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/state-police-respond-to-
The killings happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, about 60
miles northeast of New York City.27 people are dead, including 18 children. |
h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 3 Another hallelujah to the GUN FREE ZONE LAW
VT校园
CO电影院
OR shopping mall
CT primary school
这些地方所有的共同点是什么。。。"gun free zone"
Obviously a murderer violating all criminal laws would not give a shit
about gun control laws.
Look at what gun control brought to Chicago and DC. As long as you keep
attacking the wrong issue (the gun), you'll never reach the right issue
(nuts behind the gun).
【在 f**********r 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Boston 讨论区 】
: 发信人: fatblackliar (轻风拂山岗), 信区: Boston
: 标 题: 康州学校枪击死亡27人
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 14 13:15:30 2012, 美东)
: RT
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s****x
发帖数: 4701 | |
s******s
发帖数: 505 | 5 Newton, CT locates in the middle of nowhere, but its
median household income is $11,915, comparing to
$65,415 for CT, and $50,054 for the US. |
z******a
发帖数: 5381 | 6 有道理
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: Another hallelujah to the GUN FREE ZONE LAW
: VT校园
: CO电影院
: OR shopping mall
: CT primary school
: 这些地方所有的共同点是什么。。。"gun free zone"
: Obviously a murderer violating all criminal laws would not give a shit
: about gun control laws.
: Look at what gun control brought to Chicago and DC. As long as you keep
: attacking the wrong issue (the gun), you'll never reach the right issue
|
w******0
发帖数: 3908 | |
r**********8
发帖数: 887 | 8 真的一點人性都沒有
電視說 是一位學生父親槍殺
【在 w******0 的大作中提到】
: 枪杀小孩简直没有一点人性!
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I*********t
发帖数: 5258 | 9 Newtown, CT
【在 s******s 的大作中提到】
: Newton, CT locates in the middle of nowhere, but its
: median household income is $11,915, comparing to
: $65,415 for CT, and $50,054 for the US.
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C*******e
发帖数: 4348 | 10 怎么说？
看到的新闻上面什么都没说
只说是20岁的青年
没说跟学校有什么关系
也没说人种
不过估计不是亚裔
不然早就说了
【在 r**********8 的大作中提到】
: 真的一點人性都沒有
: 電視說 是一位學生父親槍殺
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m********i
发帖数: 537 | 11 电视说：
现场发现2手枪,车里1步枪。
那20岁小伙子妈妈在这个学校当老师。
为什么要枪杀小朋友啊，孩子们都是无辜的。 |
j****l
发帖数: 3356 | 12 gun free zone本身没有问题，问题是执行
飞机上也是gun free zone，执行得好，应该是减少了劫机的数目
可连围墙都没有的校园也划为gun free zone，准备以德服人吗？
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: Another hallelujah to the GUN FREE ZONE LAW
: VT校园
: CO电影院
: OR shopping mall
: CT primary school
: 这些地方所有的共同点是什么。。。"gun free zone"
: Obviously a murderer violating all criminal laws would not give a shit
: about gun control laws.
: Look at what gun control brought to Chicago and DC. As long as you keep
: attacking the wrong issue (the gun), you'll never reach the right issue
|
r**********8
发帖数: 887 | 13 新华网消息，美国康涅狄格州一所小学１４日发生枪击案，目前至少造成27人死亡，其
中包括18名儿童。 www.6park.com
路透社报道，美国白宫称，总统奥巴马刚刚与联邦调查局局长和康涅狄格州州长通话，
表达他对康州西部纽镇学校枪击事件的哀悼。 www.6park.com
路透社报道，美国白宫发言人卡尼称，奥巴马总统已获悉康涅狄格州纽镇桑迪-霍克小
学发生枪击案，目前白宫正在等待更多的相关信息。卡尼说，这一事件是个悲剧，未来
有可能讨论相关的政策立场，奥巴马总统依然致力于恢复禁止攻击型武器禁令。枪击案
已造成27人丧生。 www.6park.com
警方没有透露更多的枪击案细节。预计当天下午１点将召开新闻发布会。 www.
6park.com
美国大西洋连线报道，美国康涅狄格州警察已经抵达桑迪-霍克学校枪击案犯罪嫌疑人
家中。 www.6park.com
加拿大环球邮报报道，美国康涅狄格州西部纽镇的桑迪-霍克小学枪击案已造成27人丧
生，其中包括18名儿童。枪手可能是一名学生的父亲，已被击毙。据未经证实报道，可
能还有第二名枪手。报道称，如死亡数字得到证实，这将是美国史上最严重的枪击案。
www.6park.com
美国康涅狄格州一所小学当地时间14日早晨发生枪击案，据美联社报道，至少有27人被
杀，其中包括18名儿童，并有多人受伤。 www.6park.com
枪击案发生在位于康涅狄格州中部的钮敦(Newtown)的一所小学，该校名为 Sandy Hook
，有39名教师和约650名学生。 。康州州警于14日上午9点40分（北京时间14日晚10点
40分）接到报警求援。目前该学校及附近街区已被全面封锁。 www.6park.com
美联社和当地媒体报道称，枪手是身份还未得到确认的成年男子，已经被击毙。现场找
到两支手枪。警方表示已经有多名受伤者被送往医院。 www.6park.com
据WABC报道，该枪手24岁，装备了4支武器，并身穿防弹背心。 www.6park.com
很多学生--一些大哭，一些手拉手--被该校老师护送离开了学校。一些目击者称听到多
达100次枪声。 www.6park.com
另有目击者向当地电视台透露，她看到一名学生满脸是血，还有一名学生手部受伤。
www.6park.com
此次枪击事件仍在进一步调查中。（文 IBTimes中文网记者/图 路透社） www.6park.
com |
z********n
发帖数: 710 | 14 I do not care who is behind the gun! If no gun, it would be much easier to
deal with the ones behind. So ban the gun!!!!!
It might sound right to say the problem is the ones behind the gun! But to
let so many innocent people losing their life is definitely not right! Just
ban the gun and then let us solve other societal problem. |
w******0
发帖数: 3908 | 15 凶手先在家杀了爸爸再去学校杀他的妈妈.他妈妈是老师.学校死亡人数是26+他的爸爸
一共27dead.
he was armed with 4 weapons and wearing a bullet-proof vest! |
c**n
发帖数: 5275 | |
a****n
发帖数: 230 | 17 fully agree!!!
Just
【在 z********n 的大作中提到】
: I do not care who is behind the gun! If no gun, it would be much easier to
: deal with the ones behind. So ban the gun!!!!!
: It might sound right to say the problem is the ones behind the gun! But to
: let so many innocent people losing their life is definitely not right! Just
: ban the gun and then let us solve other societal problem.
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h********8
发帖数: 159 | 18 凶手嗑药了吧，太残忍了啊
先杀亲爹，
后跑到学校杀亲妈，
那些无辜的孩子，
真让人心疼啊。。。
美国是时候禁枪了吧 |
j*******e
发帖数: 1058 | |
m**i
发帖数: 9848 | 20 这是个伪问题。
人口密集的地方擦枪走火多，所以容易设成gun free zone，而大屠杀又必然发生在人
口密集的地方。我不认为gun free zone和大屠杀有真正的因果关系。
事实上，如果有人能拿枪反击的话，在人口密集的地方伤亡只会更多，前段时间纽约帝
国大厦的例子很明显了，警察造成的伤亡远大于枪手造成的伤亡。
这个地方的问题应该是你说了gun free就要真的gun free，学校大门口应该有武装警卫。
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: Another hallelujah to the GUN FREE ZONE LAW
: VT校园
: CO电影院
: OR shopping mall
: CT primary school
: 这些地方所有的共同点是什么。。。"gun free zone"
: Obviously a murderer violating all criminal laws would not give a shit
: about gun control laws.
: Look at what gun control brought to Chicago and DC. As long as you keep
: attacking the wrong issue (the gun), you'll never reach the right issue
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m**i
发帖数: 9848 | 21 枪手是自杀的。
【在 r**********8 的大作中提到】
: 新华网消息，美国康涅狄格州一所小学１４日发生枪击案，目前至少造成27人死亡，其
: 中包括18名儿童。 www.6park.com
: 路透社报道，美国白宫称，总统奥巴马刚刚与联邦调查局局长和康涅狄格州州长通话，
: 表达他对康州西部纽镇学校枪击事件的哀悼。 www.6park.com
: 路透社报道，美国白宫发言人卡尼称，奥巴马总统已获悉康涅狄格州纽镇桑迪-霍克小
: 学发生枪击案，目前白宫正在等待更多的相关信息。卡尼说，这一事件是个悲剧，未来
: 有可能讨论相关的政策立场，奥巴马总统依然致力于恢复禁止攻击型武器禁令。枪击案
: 已造成27人丧生。 www.6park.com
: 警方没有透露更多的枪击案细节。预计当天下午１点将召开新闻发布会。 www.
: 6park.com
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s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 22 yes.
But they won't. No one will take the initiatives. This is so deeply rooted
in this country. I don't see any reason for anyone own a gun in peaceful
Connecticut. But the politicians wont' do anything. They just won't.
And the news will just dig into this guy and how crazy he is.....
Just
【在 z********n 的大作中提到】
: I do not care who is behind the gun! If no gun, it would be much easier to
: deal with the ones behind. So ban the gun!!!!!
: It might sound right to say the problem is the ones behind the gun! But to
: let so many innocent people losing their life is definitely not right! Just
: ban the gun and then let us solve other societal problem.
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 23 你是nut, 没有枪，你的杀伤力就没有那么大，明白吗？
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: Another hallelujah to the GUN FREE ZONE LAW
: VT校园
: CO电影院
: OR shopping mall
: CT primary school
: 这些地方所有的共同点是什么。。。"gun free zone"
: Obviously a murderer violating all criminal laws would not give a shit
: about gun control laws.
: Look at what gun control brought to Chicago and DC. As long as you keep
: attacking the wrong issue (the gun), you'll never reach the right issue
|
h********8
发帖数: 159 | 24 暴力社会，疯狂社会。
看个电视剧，不是性爱就是谋杀，
随便门口有个人影就开始开枪啪啪，
禁枪，这个社会文化是有些问题吧。 |
h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 25 说到点子上了
各种暴力游戏，别说倾泻子弹如消防水龙头了。砍头 肢解都是家常便饭
各种暴力电影，什么敢死队，Hunger Games，这样的血腥影片居然允许小学生观看。社
会文化一方面
口口声声要限枪禁枪，一方面对这种极度的暴力又津津乐道。
在这样的文化下长大的小孩，分不清现实世界和他们的暴力幻想是很正常的。
【在 h********8 的大作中提到】
: 暴力社会，疯狂社会。
: 看个电视剧，不是性爱就是谋杀，
: 随便门口有个人影就开始开枪啪啪，
: 禁枪，这个社会文化是有些问题吧。
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v****0
发帖数: 1887 | 26 if the killer can shoot at 20 kids, he can also kill them with knife, in a
more brutal way.
【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】
: 你是nut, 没有枪，你的杀伤力就没有那么大，明白吗？
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s****x
发帖数: 4701 | 27 想到几年前国内也有几起冲进幼儿园屠杀小朋友的事情。
后来据说幼儿园挂了横幅：冤有头，债有主，前面左拐是ZF。
哎，为什么要滥杀无辜呢，可怜的小朋友们。 |
I*********t
发帖数: 5258 | 28 要是这事发生在国内，光是这个学校位于富人区就能让好多仇富的人高潮。 |
l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 29 用刀的话，估计砍伤10来个就被人用椅子砸翻了
【在 v****0 的大作中提到】
: if the killer can shoot at 20 kids, he can also kill them with knife, in a
: more brutal way.
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b*******u
发帖数: 724 | |
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x*******g
发帖数: 1363 | 31 Newton is located in well known rich county-- this county owns the most
expensive town in the USA, newton itself is ,one of the best school in
north oh the fairField county, median incomeoner ore than 110k.
This case demonstrated there is no safe place in america...
【在 s******s 的大作中提到】
: Newton, CT locates in the middle of nowhere, but its
: median household income is $11,915, comparing to
: $65,415 for CT, and $50,054 for the US.
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x*******g
发帖数: 1363 | 32
【在 x*******g 的大作中提到】
: Newton is located in well known rich county-- this county owns the most
: expensive town in the USA, newton itself is ,one of the best school in
: north oh the fairField county, median incomeoner ore than 110k.
: This case demonstrated there is no safe place in america...
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s**********s
发帖数: 490 | 33 but it'll be much easier to stop him before he can kill such many.
【在 v****0 的大作中提到】
: if the killer can shoot at 20 kids, he can also kill them with knife, in a
: more brutal way.
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k**L
发帖数: 3630 | 34 you know, it's this kind of bullshit that makes me mad. Do you think more
guns would make an elementary school safer? Would you like to see heavily
armed parents and machine gun touting cops and security guards at your
children's school? an murderer is not an murderer until he kills someone,
before that, he is just a regular guy like you and me with a gun. If you
have a gun now, you are just one step away from becoming the "murderer" that
you've mentioned. Who can say that you will not going to another school and
do the same thing to the children there? Do you know who will be the "
murderer"? do you know who give a shit about the law and who does not? keep
your idiotic comment to yourself and hope one day you won't use your gun to
blow your brain out when you are playing with it.
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: Another hallelujah to the GUN FREE ZONE LAW
: VT校园
: CO电影院
: OR shopping mall
: CT primary school
: 这些地方所有的共同点是什么。。。"gun free zone"
: Obviously a murderer violating all criminal laws would not give a shit
: about gun control laws.
: Look at what gun control brought to Chicago and DC. As long as you keep
: attacking the wrong issue (the gun), you'll never reach the right issue
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k**0
发帖数: 19737 | 35 sandy hook就是个在middle of new where的小town, 本人打那里过很多次。
康州好的地方多了去了。
【在 x*******g 的大作中提到】
: Newton is located in well known rich county-- this county owns the most
: expensive town in the USA, newton itself is ,one of the best school in
: north oh the fairField county, median incomeoner ore than 110k.
: This case demonstrated there is no safe place in america...
|
b*****n
发帖数: 17570 | 36 体质问题，天灭土共
【在 r**********8 的大作中提到】
: 新华网消息，美国康涅狄格州一所小学１４日发生枪击案，目前至少造成27人死亡，其
: 中包括18名儿童。 www.6park.com
: 路透社报道，美国白宫称，总统奥巴马刚刚与联邦调查局局长和康涅狄格州州长通话，
: 表达他对康州西部纽镇学校枪击事件的哀悼。 www.6park.com
: 路透社报道，美国白宫发言人卡尼称，奥巴马总统已获悉康涅狄格州纽镇桑迪-霍克小
: 学发生枪击案，目前白宫正在等待更多的相关信息。卡尼说，这一事件是个悲剧，未来
: 有可能讨论相关的政策立场，奥巴马总统依然致力于恢复禁止攻击型武器禁令。枪击案
: 已造成27人丧生。 www.6park.com
: 警方没有透露更多的枪击案细节。预计当天下午１点将召开新闻发布会。 www.
: 6park.com
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s******s
发帖数: 505 | 37
What do people do there? The shortest commute to any major city
would be more than 1 hour.
【在 x*******g 的大作中提到】
: Newton is located in well known rich county-- this county owns the most
: expensive town in the USA, newton itself is ,one of the best school in
: north oh the fairField county, median incomeoner ore than 110k.
: This case demonstrated there is no safe place in america...
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H********n
发帖数: 295 | 38 那些weapon dealer们都能利诱、绑架政府发动战争，来肥口袋。又怎么能同意禁枪，
自断财路？ |
z********n
发帖数: 710 | 39 I totally agree. Why armed killer could easily get into schools or theaters?
That is a question we need to ask. When I visited my kid's potential
daycare, the receptionists carelessly opened the door for anyone who shows
interests in getting into esp. during the dropping off and picking up time.
It poses a lot of potential problesm. However, i understand it is not easy
for staff with no professional security training to check on this. Therefore
, I strongly support to ban the gun!!!
卫。
【在 m**i 的大作中提到】
: 这是个伪问题。
: 人口密集的地方擦枪走火多，所以容易设成gun free zone，而大屠杀又必然发生在人
: 口密集的地方。我不认为gun free zone和大屠杀有真正的因果关系。
: 事实上，如果有人能拿枪反击的话，在人口密集的地方伤亡只会更多，前段时间纽约帝
: 国大厦的例子很明显了，警察造成的伤亡远大于枪手造成的伤亡。
: 这个地方的问题应该是你说了gun free就要真的gun free，学校大门口应该有武装警卫。
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s********8
发帖数: 517 | |
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v****0
发帖数: 1887 | 41 by whom? the kids age from 5 to 10.
In Africa, genocide was undertaken by rifle, knife and even wooden sticks.
【在 s**********s 的大作中提到】
: but it'll be much easier to stop him before he can kill such many.
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x*******g
发帖数: 1363 | 42 yeah, there are a few other places in CT better than that, but Newtown is
one of the best in the north of the county. and middle of nowhere is a good
place :-). My previous company, quite a few Executive including CEO live in
that town... They are not super super rich, but income is at least 300-500K/
year.
【在 k**0 的大作中提到】
: sandy hook就是个在middle of new where的小town, 本人打那里过很多次。
: 康州好的地方多了去了。
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x*******g
发帖数: 1363 | 43 Danbury has a few big companies, particular biotech. Southburry also
develops really fast, a lot of small business there too. You can't image
that how much and easy people in high rank make money in small companies.
In my previous company, almost everyone hired as assistant director and
above starting salary is like 110k-140K. Half of the company is director and
VPs -- I don't event know how much they are making :-)
【在 s******s 的大作中提到】
:
: What do people do there? The shortest commute to any major city
: would be more than 1 hour.
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