S**U
发帖数: 7025 | 1 提婆达多是佛陀的堂弟，出身高贵，出家后精进修行，后来提婆达多叛教，意图谋害佛
陀，夺取僧团领导权，有人认为有损佛陀与僧团的形象。
提婆达多叛教连带引起的问题，是佛陀是否事先预料到了。部分大乘，认为佛陀对未来
的事无所不知，所以提婆达多的叛教，其实不是叛教，而是合作演戏教化众生，有深刻
的宗教意义。法华经（后起）的提婆达多品，造了出佛身血之五无间业的提婆达多，被
授记未来成佛，就是如此观点。
原始佛教认为未来的事不决定，所以佛陀对未来的事不可能无所不知。提婆达多叛教，
无损于佛陀的伟大或僧团的清净，清者自清，提婆达多只是自己造恶业，自己承受地狱
的后果而已。 | O*********9
发帖数: 552 | | n*****a
发帖数: 265 | 3 讲Dipa Ma的书里说，Dipa Ma可以时间旅行，去到未来看到还未发生的事情，
回来和Munindra说。然后到时间的确如所说的发生。这个如何解释呢？
【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: 提婆达多是佛陀的堂弟，出身高贵，出家后精进修行，后来提婆达多叛教，意图谋害佛
: 陀，夺取僧团领导权，有人认为有损佛陀与僧团的形象。
: 提婆达多叛教连带引起的问题，是佛陀是否事先预料到了。部分大乘，认为佛陀对未来
: 的事无所不知，所以提婆达多的叛教，其实不是叛教，而是合作演戏教化众生，有深刻
: 的宗教意义。法华经（后起）的提婆达多品，造了出佛身血之五无间业的提婆达多，被
: 授记未来成佛，就是如此观点。
: 原始佛教认为未来的事不决定，所以佛陀对未来的事不可能无所不知。提婆达多叛教，
: 无损于佛陀的伟大或僧团的清净，清者自清，提婆达多只是自己造恶业，自己承受地狱
: 的后果而已。
| S**U
发帖数: 7025 | 4 I don't recall this among Dipa Ma's supernormal powers. Can you quote?
【在 n*****a 的大作中提到】
: 讲Dipa Ma的书里说，Dipa Ma可以时间旅行，去到未来看到还未发生的事情，
: 回来和Munindra说。然后到时间的确如所说的发生。这个如何解释呢？
| n*****a
发帖数: 265 | 5 Sure. See below, both from
Master>
http://www.amazon.com/Dipa-Ma-Legacy-Buddhist-Master/dp/0974240
"When the Burmese diplomat U Thant was about to become the new
secretary general of the United Nations, Munindra, knowing that U
Thant would give an acceptance speech, asked Dipa Ma to go into the
future and remember the content. She recited the speech, and Munindra
recorded it . A month later, accoring to Munindra, U Thant gave the
exact speech, word for word, just as Dpa Ma had predicted."
Page 104, Chapter 9
"Beyond time and space
Dipa Ma said she could go back to the time of the Buddha and listen to
his sermons. When I asked her how she did this, she smiled and said,
"I went back mind-moment by mind-moment." I must have looked stunned,
because she smiled and said, "Oh, you don't have to do that for Nibbana
[enlightment] to happen." Then she laughed and added, "It was really
fun. It just takes a lot of concentration." The look in her eyes when
she said this - she looked so free, so pure.
Michele McDonald"
Page 104-105, Chapter 9
【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: I don't recall this among Dipa Ma's supernormal powers. Can you quote?
| S**U
发帖数: 7025 | 6 第一段不知道如何解释。也许是他心通。
第二段是宿命通，只限于过去生曾经验过的事；过去生没经验过的无法知道。否则结集
佛经的时候，由有神通的回到过去，检查佛陀有没有说过某经就好了。
【在 n*****a 的大作中提到】
: Sure. See below, both from : Master>
: http://www.amazon.com/Dipa-Ma-Legacy-Buddhist-Master/dp/0974240
: "When the Burmese diplomat U Thant was about to become the new
: secretary general of the United Nations, Munindra, knowing that U
: Thant would give an acceptance speech, asked Dipa Ma to go into the
: future and remember the content. She recited the speech, and Munindra
: recorded it . A month later, accoring to Munindra, U Thant gave the
: exact speech, word for word, just as Dpa Ma had predicted."
: Page 104, Chapter 9
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