m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 1 before flop, AJ suited bet 20$ two guys called.
flop is 228 no flush draw, both check to me, I bet 50$, the loose guy folded.
a good player check raise to 100$.
What should I do here, call, fold or reraise? | l********r
发帖数: 868 | 2 Were they blinds or limped in first then called your preflop raise?
I probably would fold no matter what the answer is, though. If you bluff,
you need to re-raise to about $300. Is it like all-in?
Really don't like the chance.
folded.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: before flop, AJ suited bet 20$ two guys called.
: flop is 228 no flush draw, both check to me, I bet 50$, the loose guy folded.
: a good player check raise to 100$.
: What should I do here, call, fold or reraise?
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 3 the good player live straddle to 10$, so I only add 10$ more.
the loose guy called another 15$ and the good player called another 10$
We are deep stack , he got 400$ left I got 300$ left after the bet on the
flp | l********r
发帖数: 868 | 4 I would fold. His hand could be anything since he only needed $10 to call a
$50 pot. What if he had 82 or X2? His 2X raise sounds an inviting raise. He
may bluff, but I would fold anyway. This is true especially when your image
is tight and a good player.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: the good player live straddle to 10$, so I only add 10$ more.
: the loose guy called another 15$ and the good player called another 10$
: We are deep stack , he got 400$ left I got 300$ left after the bet on the
: flp
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 5 I folded.
But when I rethink about this, I got a different idea.
since such a dry flop , no draw .
he checked raise me on the flop, obviously he didn't have 2( he will just
call hope I hit my over card( he know I may bluff))and charge me more.( this
put him on a good player, but not that good to use reverse phycology)
and since he called10$ bf flop, he probably has pocket pair and no reraie bf
flop meaning his pair is not high.
I should just reraise to another 100$ more he probably will lay down | l********r
发帖数: 868 | 6 Your reasoning makes sense. He may just call if he holds a monster hand. a
minimum raise is more likely X8 or an over pair. If you want to have a shot,
another $100 raise is a good size. It's not very costy, and you have $200
behind to deter him.
Another good thing is you got position. But here comes an interesting
question: if he calls your re-raise and the turn is A or J, what would you
do if he bets strongly? I guess you have to fold.
this
bf
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: I folded.
: But when I rethink about this, I got a different idea.
: since such a dry flop , no draw .
: he checked raise me on the flop, obviously he didn't have 2( he will just
: call hope I hit my over card( he know I may bluff))and charge me more.( this
: put him on a good player, but not that good to use reverse phycology)
: and since he called10$ bf flop, he probably has pocket pair and no reraie bf
: flop meaning his pair is not high.
: I should just reraise to another 100$ more he probably will lay down
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 7 of couse you can just fold here, even not bluff and let it go.
But sometime you have to think what is the opponent thought.
why he do that, what hand he put you on, is it a good chance to bluff,
even this time you may failed, next time you know what he is thinking then
can bluff him or catch his bluff.
Poker is fun not like the way most people play. | m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 8 then he may got full house or 2. | D***L
发帖数: 449 | 9 i would lay down as well. my gut feeling is that guy was semi-bluffing. But
u've got pretty much nothing. yeah, it's true that if u reraise he might
fold. it all depends on how u evaluate ur risk of reraising.
folded.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: before flop, AJ suited bet 20$ two guys called.
: flop is 228 no flush draw, both check to me, I bet 50$, the loose guy folded.
: a good player check raise to 100$.
: What should I do here, call, fold or reraise?
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 10 Play the player not the card.
This hand if I decide to bluff, whatever I have I will do the same thing.
And I really have two overcard though. if you have confidence about your
reading on your oponent you should follow your guts. | | | l********r
发帖数: 868 | 11 This I agree. It's not that important what you hold in the bluff situation.
It's what your opponent holds and what he thinks you may hold.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: Play the player not the card.
: This hand if I decide to bluff, whatever I have I will do the same thing.
: And I really have two overcard though. if you have confidence about your
: reading on your oponent you should follow your guts.
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 12 This hand remind me one hand in highstake poker.( NL blind 300/600)
John Juvanda raised 2000$ Qj suited on the bottun, one other pro( called A)
called his K 9 offsuit.
flop K x x , very dry no draw at all.
Player A checked to John , he bet 5000, player A check raised to 10000$,
John think about for a while and reraise another 20000$, Player A called ,
turn is K , Player A all in John fold.
In this case John bluff first and got checked raised but he smelled player'
A weakness ( if A really have
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: before flop, AJ suited bet 20$ two guys called.
: flop is 228 no flush draw, both check to me, I bet 50$, the loose guy folded.
: a good player check raise to 100$.
: What should I do here, call, fold or reraise?
| l********r
发帖数: 868 | 13 Great example.
What do you think about A's all-in bet on the turn? He's out of position.
Didn't he worry about John had the last K with a better kicker? Or if John
didn't have K at all, he would fold?
Maybe A's stack was not that deep and he had to go all-in anyway.
)
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just
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: This hand remind me one hand in highstake poker.( NL blind 300/600)
: John Juvanda raised 2000$ Qj suited on the bottun, one other pro( called A)
: called his K 9 offsuit.
: flop K x x , very dry no draw at all.
: Player A checked to John , he bet 5000, player A check raised to 10000$,
: John think about for a while and reraise another 20000$, Player A called ,
: turn is K , Player A all in John fold.
: In this case John bluff first and got checked raised but he smelled player'
: A weakness ( if A really have
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 14 I think he only had 30000$ left after the call.
so for a big pot like that, he had no choice. | l********r
发帖数: 868 | 15 Is this tournament or cash game? You saw it on TV or online? I wonder if we
can watch pro players play games online.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: I think he only had 30000$ left after the call.
: so for a big pot like that, he had no choice.
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 16 I am happy to see people to disscuss hand.
But it seems most people have no interest.
what I am saying is in live casino, there are always people gamble the
wrong way all their life and don't know that . everytime they lost they
complain the luck, evertime they won by a small chance they will keep doing
that next time.
Statistically they will lose the long term, they never notice that just play
play and play, never improve the skill , just folow the guts.
I hope no people here will do the same | q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 17 俺正在看hold'em入门书籍，到目前为止感觉自己还没有足够的知识去讨论某一把牌应
该怎么打。
另外，俺觉得正像你所说，有些时候某一把牌体现出的是小概率事件。赢了不代表打
得对，输了不代表打得错。苦练基本功才是正道。
doing
play
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: I am happy to see people to disscuss hand.
: But it seems most people have no interest.
: what I am saying is in live casino, there are always people gamble the
: wrong way all their life and don't know that . everytime they lost they
: complain the luck, evertime they won by a small chance they will keep doing
: that next time.
: Statistically they will lose the long term, they never notice that just play
: play and play, never improve the skill , just folow the guts.
: I hope no people here will do the same
| l********r
发帖数: 868 | 18 可以先看Dan Harrington的作为入门，然后看David Sklansky重新理解implied odds和
card evaluation等。Daniel Negreanu刚出了几本。他read opponent很厉害，不清楚
书写得怎么样。
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】
: 俺正在看hold'em入门书籍，到目前为止感觉自己还没有足够的知识去讨论某一把牌应
: 该怎么打。
: 另外，俺觉得正像你所说，有些时候某一把牌体现出的是小概率事件。赢了不代表打
: 得对，输了不代表打得错。苦练基本功才是正道。
:
: doing
: play
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 19 书是一定要读的.但不能死读.
看看电视上的比赛不错,最重要是实践.
folded.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: before flop, AJ suited bet 20$ two guys called.
: flop is 228 no flush draw, both check to me, I bet 50$, the loose guy folded.
: a good player check raise to 100$.
: What should I do here, call, fold or reraise?
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