m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 1 http://www.pokerhand.org/?3408732
if he got Q, he can not check flop , if he have flush or full house, no need
to bet that much on turn, and river 's bet really like bluff( he is a
tricky player) | i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 2 i would like to hear your reason for flat call preflop...
need
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: http://www.pokerhand.org/?3408732
: if he got Q, he can not check flop , if he have flush or full house, no need
: to bet that much on turn, and river 's bet really like bluff( he is a
: tricky player)
| d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 3 me 2...
位置勉强还凑合了。。。要是我就re-raise到$20-25 preflop
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: i would like to hear your reason for flat call preflop...
:
: need
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 with that flop and your position, i would bet about $25 to test water.
JcJs and without a diamond, and Q on board:
1) your hand is NOT going to improve later, even Jd is not one of your outs.
you're very likely to fight with this middle pair (with some very very
remote runner runner gutshot possibilities) till the end.
2) if 1 is true, and you feel JsJc is too sexy to lay down later, i would
like to act now actively, not passively (i need to know who might have a Q,
who might be on a draw...). a
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: http://www.pokerhand.org/?3408732
: if he got Q, he can not check flop , if he have flush or full house, no need
: to bet that much on turn, and river 's bet really like bluff( he is a
: tricky player)
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 5 The reason I didn't reraise bf flop since this guy 's 4 bet range is too
wide, and I just read "small ball"stratege and want to contorl the pot bf
flop.
Flop I dare not to bet since I am not the leader bf flop.
So I think I made the correct play ( if I bet flop , he will call, and I can
't bet on the turn, after I check the turn, he will lead out 72$ the same on
the river I think) | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 from his standpoint, nobody bets on the scary flop, he can comfortablly
assume nobody got a Qx (without high diamond hand), otherwise a medium-
strong "protective" bet should occur.
so, if nobody got Qx (with high diamond) or KK/AA (hilgy unlikely due to pre
-flop actions), then his hand (many possibilities) could be well ahead.
actually your JJ hand is at very high/unlikely end of the range he puts you
guys in.
then what makes you guys call his $26 bet on the turn? and two callers? at
least on
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: The reason I didn't reraise bf flop since this guy 's 4 bet range is too
: wide, and I just read "small ball"stratege and want to contorl the pot bf
: flop.
: Flop I dare not to bet since I am not the leader bf flop.
: So I think I made the correct play ( if I bet flop , he will call, and I can
: 't bet on the turn, after I check the turn, he will lead out 72$ the same on
: the river I think)
| h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 7 He probably had AQ but was afraid of made flush at the flop so he didn't bet
. But that means you should bet the flop.
If he calls the flop, and the turn is 4s, I agree it's hard to bet the turn
again (if he checks). What would you do in that case? Maybe 50% of the time
I'll bet strongly again.
You guys are right that he should bet the flop if he doesn't have a flush
draw and has a top pair. But maybe he varied his play this time. Or maybe
like fryking said, he's got a diamond, too.
can
on
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: The reason I didn't reraise bf flop since this guy 's 4 bet range is too
: wide, and I just read "small ball"stratege and want to contorl the pot bf
: flop.
: Flop I dare not to bet since I am not the leader bf flop.
: So I think I made the correct play ( if I bet flop , he will call, and I can
: 't bet on the turn, after I check the turn, he will lead out 72$ the same on
: the river I think)
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 8 if his 4bet range is wide cold call with hands like JJ is a mistake. i'll be
more than happy to shove it in against his wide 4bet range with JJ. your fl
at call is good if you think someone behind you is squeeze happy, otherwise
the chance that someone else behind you will call as well and you'll play th
e hand out of position is too big and it sux.
on the flop i give up if i don't have the flush draw, i was probably already
behind and drawing very thin, if i was ahead they would generally have
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: The reason I didn't reraise bf flop since this guy 's 4 bet range is too
: wide, and I just read "small ball"stratege and want to contorl the pot bf
: flop.
: Flop I dare not to bet since I am not the leader bf flop.
: So I think I made the correct play ( if I bet flop , he will call, and I can
: 't bet on the turn, after I check the turn, he will lead out 72$ the same on
: the river I think)
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 9 miss read the flop action...
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【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: if his 4bet range is wide cold call with hands like JJ is a mistake. i'll be
: more than happy to shove it in against his wide 4bet range with JJ. your fl
: at call is good if you think someone behind you is squeeze happy, otherwise
: the chance that someone else behind you will call as well and you'll play th
: e hand out of position is too big and it sux.
: on the flop i give up if i don't have the flush draw, i was probably already
: behind and drawing very thin, if i was ahead they would generally have
| m******1
发帖数: 715 | 10 "if he got Q, he can not check flop".
Not really. It is hard to bet TP into 3 guys on such a well connected flop.
The way he bet, he has a Q and a good kicker, probabaly no diamond. |
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