p****n 发帖数: 1263 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 EB23 讨论区 】
发信人: lionhearted (zz), 信区: EB23
标 题: NIW标准更改, NYSDOT判例失效
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Dec 28 12:43:08 2016, 美东)
"USCIS may grant a national interest waiver if the petitioner demonstrates:
(1) that the foreign national’s proposed endeavor has both substantial
merit and national importance;
(2) that he or she is well positioned to advance the proposed
endeavor; and
(3) that, on balance, it would be beneficial to the United States
to waive the job offer and lab... 阅读全帖 |
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l*********d 发帖数: 315 | 2 "USCIS may grant a national interest waiver if the petitioner demonstrates:
(1) that the foreign national’s proposed endeavor has both substantial
merit and national importance;
(2) that he or she is well positioned to advance the proposed
endeavor; and
(3) that, on balance, it would be beneficial to the United States
to waive the job offer and labor certification requirements.
Matter of New York State Dep’t of Transp
., 22 I&N Dec. 215 (Acting Assoc. Comm’r 1998),vacat... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******n 发帖数: 4402 | 3 其实办绿卡不管是走PERM还是搞NIW/EB1很大程度上是社交/搞人际关系,
差不多的个人硬件,有的人不怎么费劲就拿到了,对人的学历要求未必高。
发信人: chenm003 (____), 信区: EB23
标 题: Re: NIW标准更改, NYSDOT判例失效
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 30 11:44:56 2016, 美东)
不一定非要找你老板啊,多联系下其它学校
我老板和我做得根本不是一码子事情,发文章看来是没戏了 |
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e******r 发帖数: 9977 | 4 一般人写这个,不过是照搬罢了。既然是基础问题,建议大家提问前,花几分钟google
一下。 对于你这个问题,我建议选一。
原因如下,1是指那基本三条,2是指某个著名的被uscis驳回的案例。
链接在下面,有空你读读好了。
1.In 1998, the Administrative Appeals Office (AAO) issued a precedent
decision, Matter of In Re: New York State Department of Transportation, 22 I
&N Dec. 215 (Comm. 1998) (“NYSDOT”), which created a three-prong test for
petitioners seeking a national interest waiver. You should remember that the
purpose of these prongs is to set minimum requirements for activities that
are in the natio... 阅读全帖 |
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W***o 发帖数: 6519 | 5 等了好多天今天终于收到了我的NIW的RFE,承认了两点:
1. The submitted evidence established that the proposed employment is in an
area of substantial intrinsic merit. The first pront of the NYSDOT test has
been met.
2. The evidence established that the benefits of the proposed employment
will be national in scope. Therefore the second prong of the NYSDOT test has
been met.
3. The third prong of the NYSDOT test considers whether you will serve the
national interest to a substantially greater degree than would an availabl... 阅读全帖 |
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W***o 发帖数: 6519 | 6 【 以下文字转载自 Immigration 讨论区 】
发信人: Wardo (Wardo), 信区: Immigration
标 题: RFE 回复策略求指教:要求补材料证明 serve interest greater than U.S. workers of min qualification
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jun 19 20:32:54 2014, 美东)
等了好多天今天终于收到了我的NIW的RFE,承认了两点:
1. The submitted evidence established that the proposed employment is in an
area of substantial intrinsic merit. The first pront of the NYSDOT test has
been met.
2. The evidence established that the benefits of the proposed employment
will be national in scope. Therefore t... 阅读全帖 |
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A****Z 发帖数: 694 | 8 判例原文。
Accordingly, our decision in NYSDOT is ripe for revision. Today,
we vacate NYSDOT and adopt a new framework for adjudicating national
interest waiver petitions, one that will provide greater clarity,
apply more flexibly to circumstances of both petitioning employers and self
-petitioning individuals, and better advance the purpose of the
broad discretionary waiver provision to benefit the United States. |
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p********r 发帖数: 3243 | 10 不同的模板里不尽相同,版本有:
In Re: New York State Department of Transportation, 22 I&N Dec. 215 (Comm.
1998) (“NYSDOT”),
In re DDDD State Dept. of Transportation EAC 96 063 51031, (AAU, Aug. 7,
1998).
到底该用哪一个才对?
请大牛指点。
谢谢。 |
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a****5 发帖数: 415 | 12 前几天刚收到了140 approval,想分享下自己的经历,希望对已经工作申请NIW的同学
有帮助。
Timeline
2013 8月 Niw 递交
2014 5月 RFE NYSDOT RFE By 杀手 002
2014 7月19日 deadline这天递交了RFE
2014 7月23日 140 approval
背景介绍
统计phd
2011 年-现在德州某图文处理公司data scientist
4个 发表文章
1个 book chapter
20个 cite
3个 review
关于选律师
我公司也没有意向要申请绿卡,所以在LD的威逼利诱下去申请。工作比较忙,常加班到
8点多,所以只能考虑律师。
LD不选最好的,选了个最贵的律师。 别人NIW才5000不到,我们这个8000。关键是贵绝
对不等于好。那个律师,我就不想推荐了,太粗糙,材料简直不忍直视。
我们也有问题,从来都是不主动,不闻不问,以至于第一次看到递交的材料是回复了
rfe之后。递交以前我们从来没有关心过。
现在想来,这个律师做材料不认真是一部分原因,还有一个原因是我们实在是太懒了。
所以大家要push律师。
RF... 阅读全帖 |
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z****9 发帖数: 2484 | 13 Requirement 1 - You must show that you plan on working in the United
States in an area of substantial intrinsic merit.
Under the first prong of the NYSDOT test, it is important for you to focus
on the proposed employment. USCIS will look at your documents to determine
whether the importance of your proposed work is readily apparent. Some of
the evidence you may submit to demonstrate that you plan on working in the
United States in an area of substantial intrinsic merit includes:
A letter ... 阅读全帖 |
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s********5 发帖数: 73 | 14 我在本论坛和USCIS官方网站查了很多有关NIW的信息, 发现有关资格似乎有不一致的问
题. 现提出来我的疑问, 希望过来人谈谈你们当时是怎么处理的. 多谢!
问题是这样的, 我从USCIS官方网站发现其对NIW的描述居然不同, 或者说矛盾.
其一说是你要满足1) with an advanced degree, or with exceptional ability. 2)
identify three as defined in NYSDOT (i.e. intrinsic merit, national scope,
and national interest). 这个也是我理解的应该论证的准则.
这是相关连接(其中具体NIW描述是在Q# 5中最后一个):
http://www.uscis.gov/forms/petition-filing-and-processing-proce
但USCIS有其二是这样要求的, 对NIW根本没提with an advanced degree这个选项. 原
话是这么说的, “You must meet at least three of t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 15 你这niw批复的速度太惊人了。。。。。我等了半年多了,毛都没有。
niw和EB1不一样,不需要meet 3 out of 8 criteria,只要论述对national 有帮助。
评判标准是Three-Prong Test (NYSDOT),如下:
1. The waiver applicant must seek employment in an area that has substantial
intrinsic merit.
2. The waiver applicant must demonstrate that the proposed benefit to be
provided will be national in scope.
3. The waiver applicant must demonstrate that it would be contrary to the
national interest to potentially deprive the prospective employer of the
services of the waiver a... 阅读全帖 |
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s********e 发帖数: 542 | 16 请教大家申请过EB2NIW 特别是最近要申请的人:
1) EB2-NIW似乎有两类,一类是advanced degree另一类是exceptional ability
但是我看了很多模板文,似乎把这两类同时写进petition。
应该是只需要按照其中一类申请吧?(两类的标准完全不一样)。
2)比如说exceptional ability这一类需要提供一些证据比如:professional
membership; more than 10 years of experience, etc...
而advanced degree只是需要证明有advance degree (transcript, diploma),并且
related to the field you'll be work in.
3)然后两类都要论述申请人如何qualify for NIW。这两类的关于NIW的论述相同(三个
要点)。
现在网上的消息是要用一个新的先例来论证,2017年一月中刚通过,叫做"Dhanasar"案
,而不是以前的“NYSDOT”案。
但目前USCIS网站还是老的信息。
请问大家是根据新的标准写... 阅读全帖 |
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n***s 发帖数: 10056 | 17 The nysdot case was 'THE CASE' that made civil engineering NIW to non-exist
for a long while. That Chinese engineer was doing bridge as well. Your case
really depends on your job. If you are doing research involving modern high
tech about bridge and highway pavement, then give it a shot since you have a
phd degree. If your job is engineering design, then chances are slim. Labor
is better. |
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a****5 发帖数: 415 | 18 4月收到NIW 的rfe
officer 是0002
上网查了查 查完了真是菊花一紧阿
我估计凶多吉少了
RFE的内容是
NYSDOT
申请者工作领域具备重大内在价值(Substantial Intrinsic Merit);
问题是我的工作很容易被替代。。。over qualify 的人太多了。。
我天天都觉得我快要被lay off了
我觉得我快要悲剧了 |
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l*********d 发帖数: 315 | 20 具体操作标准变了.适用于I140-NIW的批准. |
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A****Z 发帖数: 694 | 21 好处:NIW标准降低。
坏处:现成的模板要修改了,伸手党不好当了。
下面是以前的纽约交通局案例三点测试。
1. The waiver applicant must seek employment in an area that has substantial
intrinsic merit.
2. The waiver applicant must demonstrate that the proposed benefit to be
provided will be national in scope.
3. The waiver applicant must demonstrate that it would be contrary to the
national interest to potentially deprive the prospective employer of the
services of the waiver applicant by making available to U.S. workers the
position sought by the w... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******n 发帖数: 4402 | 22 我的解读:
对NIW是重大利好,简单说就是对学历的要求降低了,对已经做出的成就的要求降低了;
赶在Trump上台前又一条对移民有利的改革。
虽然反移民叫声一片,但移民的重大经济利益还是太明显,短期看不好说,长期看还是
需求决定供给,反移民只是暂时的。 |
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A****Z 发帖数: 694 | 23 学历要求没有降低。学历要求是statutory requirement。
同意你的说法。我觉得版友不必太悲观,美帝的经济活力极大依靠移民输血。我个人觉
得,如果美帝关紧国门,吃枣药丸,这样的国家我也没必要费心费力办移民手续了。所
以大政策方面的事情,我既改变不了,也没必要太忧心。 |
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c******3 发帖数: 6509 | 24 昨天就浏览了下,标准下降很多,对后来人还是很有好处的,以后可能学生毕业直接就
能拿到NIW,方便跳槽
@steenphen,
学历要求还是没降低,依然要Advanced Degree或者10年经验 |
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s*******n 发帖数: 4402 | 26 你很专业,佩服。
其实没事的,我觉得任何不满足statutory的事情,都可以有弥补的机会,请找专业律
师咨询,
我只是空谈,总体来讲,硬性标准会降低,资本家最讲究实用性,
科技业最需要熟练技工,服务业最需要熟练小时工,这点本国人无法竞争。
学历要求没有降低。学历要求是statutory requirement。 |
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s*******r 发帖数: 562 | 27 140没有offer letter也行?那485pending临时没工作也可以? |
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s*******n 发帖数: 4402 | 28 硬性标准下降很多,软性指标比如Advanced Degree其实也越来越好拿,国人苦逼留学
的时代结束了。
不要小看这点点改进,当年我就是被PERM搞得最后回去再弄NIW,后来又弄了PERM, 又
降级,把整个人生都改变了,所以有人说的好,老人有老人的活法,新人有新人的福。
昨天就浏览了下,标准下降很多,对后来人还是很有好处的,以后可能学生毕业直接就
能拿到NIW,方便跳槽
@steenphen,
学历要求还是没降低,依然要Advanced Degree或者10年经验 |
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c******3 发帖数: 6509 | 31 我就是码农,去年申请的NIW
文章其实看你怎么做了,码农写作差,但是可以做技术和产品,然后和学校合作发论文
,他们熟悉写作,也要论文去拿基金等,但是搞不定工业算法和实现,所以是双赢局面 |
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s*******n 发帖数: 4402 | 32 说的好,关键是挖掘自己的亮点,
国人受到体制的影响,个体之间差异不大,优势摆在一起就不叫优势了,像你这样的就
叫稀缺,稀缺就价值大,就是人才。
我就是码农,去年申请的NIW
文章其实看你怎么做了,码农写作差,但是可以做技术和产品,然后和学校合作发论文
,他们熟悉写作,也要论文去拿基金等,但是搞不定工业算法和实现,所以是双赢局面 |
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u***n 发帖数: 21026 | 33 我老板和我做得根本不是一码子事情,发文章看来是没戏了 |
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c******3 发帖数: 6509 | 35 这说的倒是,关键还是看平时攒的人品
10多年一直给领域内人免费帮忙,看起来吃亏了,结果要推荐信的时候有几十人同意帮
忙,还都是不认识的人 |
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s*******n 发帖数: 4402 | 36 这就是特色和亮点,恰好就是以前的3-prong test需要的。
这说的倒是,关键还是看平时攒的人品
10多年一直给领域内人免费帮忙,看起来吃亏了,结果要推荐信的时候有几十人同意帮
忙,还都是不认识的人 |
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发帖数: 1 | 37 请问NIW 旧标准NYSDOT何时失效, 新标准 Matter of DHANASAR 何时生效?谢谢! |
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s********e 发帖数: 542 | 38 请教大家申请过EB2NIW 特别是最近要申请的人:
1) EB2-NIW似乎有两类,一类是advanced degree另一类是exceptional ability
但是我看了很多模板文,似乎把这两类同时写进petition。
应该是只需要按照其中一类申请吧?(两类的标准完全不一样)。
2)比如说exceptional ability这一类需要提供一些证据比如:professional
membership; more than 10 years of experience, etc...
而advanced degree只是需要证明有advance degree (transcript, diploma),并且
related to the field you'll be work in.
3)然后两类都要论述申请人如何qualify for NIW。这两类的关于NIW的论述相同(三个
要点)。
现在网上的消息是要用一个新的先例来论证,2017年一月中刚通过,叫做"Dhanasar"案
,而不是以前的“NYSDOT”案。
但目前USCIS网站还是老的信息。
请问大家是根据新的标准写... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********s 发帖数: 20444 | 39 看你这啥球都不懂的样子还是花五千块钱找个律师吧
请教大家申请过EB2NIW 特别是最近要申请的人:
1) EB2-NIW似乎有两类,一类是advanced degree另一类是exceptional ability
但是我看了很多模板文,似乎把这两类同时写进petition。
应该是只需要按照其中一类申请吧?(两类的标准完全不一样)。
2)比如说exceptional ability这一类需要提供一些证据比如:professional
membership; more than 10 years of experience, etc...
而advanced degree只是需要证明有advance degree (transcript, diploma),并且
related to the field you'll be work in.
3)然后两类都要论述申请人如何qualify for NIW。这两类的关于NIW的论述相同(三个
要点)。
现在网上的消息是要用一个新的先例来论证,2017年一月中刚通过,叫做"Dhanasar"案
,而不是以前的“NYSDOT”案。
但目前US... 阅读全帖 |
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d*x 发帖数: 20 | 40 代友发贴,有意请回站内信箱,多谢!
Looking for senior Bridge Engineer (located in midtown of Manhattan).
Candidates must have
• 5-15 years solid experience in bridge design, contract drawing
preparation and detailing.
• Experience with Microstation/AutoCAD and Finite Element software
such as SAP 2000 would be a plus.
• The ability to communicate (oral and written) effectively.
• Experience with NYSDOT/NYCDOT, and AASHTO LRFD Design Standards
is a plus.
• Professional |
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l****w 发帖数: 27 | 41 Tackle the Gordian Knot
---------------- How to Substantiate the Claim that Labor Certification
Shall not be Required in an NIW Case
The three-prong test specified by the Administrative Appeals Unit in NYSDOT
is always the touchstone in an NIW petition. And its third prong – “
evidence submitted shall prove that national interest would be adversely
affected if a labor certification were required” – has been the pain of
pains at all times. We hope that this a |
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