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a**********t
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来自主题: USANews版 - 和党Never Trumpers的悲哀
和党那帮Never Trumpers这次终于尝到了自己播种的苦果的滋味。Kavanaugh的结局自
从这帮所谓的道德洁癖背后捅Roy Moore的刀子的时候就注定是这样了。
Roy Moore的事情说到底很简单,就是在证据弱到几乎没有,只有"she said he said"
的情况下,presumption of innocence是否仍旧适用。和党Never Trumpers很大声很响
亮地告诉对手,因为我们高风亮节,所以我们要更严格地要求自己人,所以无罪推定这
种原则,不要也罢。当然喽,背地里他们一定在小声说,你Roy Moore又不是我自己人
,把你牺牲了给我们立道德牌坊,那简直就是无本万利的事情啊。殊不知,你放弃了最
基本的原则,就是给主党最好的endorsement。
这次为了保护Kavanaugh,Never Trumpers一个个都跳出来战斗在第一线。可笑的是,
当主党用Roy Moore来攻击Kavanaugh,这帮人(Ben Shapiro, David French, etc)的回
应就是Roy Moore有几个accusers, Kavanaugh只有一个,性侵... 阅读全帖

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g********2
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来自主题: USANews版 - Anti-Trumpers, Leave the Kids Alone
Anti-Trumpers, Leave the Kids Alone
Debra J. Saunders
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Posted: Nov 15, 2016 12:01 AM
Hillary Clinton voters, I feel your pain. I've been on the losing side more
times than I cared to be. It's painful and personal. I would venture to add
that Donald J. Trump's victory probably is more bitter than a Clinton win
would have been for conservatives because you didn't see it coming. You lost
and you were sucker punched. Ouch.
For most of you, the approach voiced by Kevin Eckery, a GOP consultant who
d... 阅读全帖
d**e
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极左的小丑们更本就不是威胁。
最近的这些leak很有可能是共和党的人干的。
试想老川不是傻子,重要部门都已经换了共和党,但是问题是共和党内部的never
trumpers一心想搞掉他,推pence上。
左派搞掉trump的动机没有右派那么强。左派更想的是把老川搞丑,但不是弹劾,否则
副总上去左派下次竞选更没戏。所以现在对老川下狠手的只有共和党。
h*i
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I actually think this is a Trumper setup. The first kneeling guy may not be
a YangGang but a Trumper plant.
Trump fears Yang is for real. On twitter, there are Trumpers calling for
opposition research on Yang. On Reddit, there are Trumpers posing as
YangGang behaving badly.
n******g
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我猜测never Trumpers现在应该已经很少是来自所谓正统GOP的了,而是诸如女权主义
那样的白左。
楼主看到的是哪样的人现在还是never Trumpers?
l***o
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上面有两个真可能是neocon never trumper,现在居然自称上了trump train了。有点
可笑。

the neo-con never trumpers are self claiming as "the team" now? go fuck
f*******g
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You fought WITH Ron Paul? You must be kidding me right? Does Ron Paul call
you "buddy"?
Nevertheless, it still does not answer the question that if you are a never-
trumper. Are you a never trumper? Are you red herring us using Ron Paul?
d**e
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来自主题: USANews版 - 抄律师家是个转折点
穆勒当时敢接这个活,说明当时就已经铁了心要和川总闹翻。
第一,虽然穆勒本人是共和党,但那时党内的反川势力是相当的强大,其实到今天为止
,never trumper的势力任然非常强大。参众2院里的牛鬼蛇神,我怀疑70%以上的都是
never trumper - 不管他们在电视里如何支持川总。这些势力是直接的背后靠山 - 也
是为什么到现在穆勒任然活蹦乱跳。
第二,穆勒早年和trump肯定有个人恩怨,有公开的,可能还有非公开的。
这就是穆勒为什么组的队里99%都是铁杆民主党 - 不可能整个美国找不到牛逼的共和党
检察官和律师吧。所以,这个调查从一开始就定了性,就是要搞trump,什么通俄都是
幌子。
所以,以前梦想穆勒会秉公执法,查个水落石出,很幼稚。
为什么说抄律师家是个转折点?因为这里面有很多律师和客户之间的秘密,这些秘密一
向是不能被查的。这一下可好,就像拳击比赛里规则是不能打击裤裆,穆勒现在对着川
总下三路发招。这样,一来打破了很多trump支持者对穆勒任然抱有的任何美好愿望,
二来会招来trump的报复。川总什么人,睚眦必报,大家可以等着看好戏了。
从共和党的角度说,这件事可能是... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Military版 - 疮轮的辩解是在自慰
trumpers also said hillary supporters paid and hired people to protest. is
that true? they have some photos of ad.
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: flyingpie (pie), 信区: USANews
标 题: Trump Voters Shrug Off Global Uproar Over Immigration Ban
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jan 30 09:59:06 2017, 美东)
"His base is as firm as ever," he said. "What he's lost in the very early
polls is the Republicans who were never Trumpers and ended up voting for
Trump."
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-voters-shrug-global-uproar-over-immigration-ban-n714011
s*x
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来自主题: Military版 - “buffer state”
Avatar
John Springer • 14 hours ago
Just read how Russia built second pipeline to China and no longer using
dollars , but petro yuans and rubles. We can no longer simply use threat of
sanctions and tariffs. We can negotiate but must treat our peers, even those
who see the world differently, as participants or we will fail.
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Orange Juice John Springer • an hour ago
Who will buy our debt if we upset China? Trump arranged for record deficits
and he's trying... 阅读全帖
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这次提前四个月开打贸易战, 实际上是打算在梭哈之后全取经济红利来保共和党的中
期选举的
但是直接目标应该不是为了连任,因为太远了,到时候没有热乎劲了。
Trump已经多次表明了对国会两院的无能的不满。比如最近的移民法案两版本,Trump压
根就不屑一顾,认为是浪费时间。原因在于和他同路的共和党无法彻底控制两院。
最近他又表示,需要立法机构重写移民法,直接驱逐入境非法移民而不是进行听证。
到现在为止,trump 的标志,边界墙还没影呢,这些都需要国会拨款。
所以这次中期选举,对Trump是否跛脚还是能撸起袖子使劲干至关重要。
Trump留了四个月来打贸易战,实际上说明了他对贸易战这个政治经济交织的东西的轻
敌。
中美贸易战和美欧贸易战不同: 美欧同文同种, 合则利大于弊,所以是斗而不破,点
到为止,亮牌比完大小就收队了。
而中美却有可能由打牌变成打架,变成彻底对抗。这里面有文化政治制度的不同,也有
领导人理念不同的因素。在这点上,Trump误判的责任相对更大 --- 他把这个事情想简
单了。他把他混NYC的经验往混同太平洋上套了,经验用错地方了。
四个月,够中美之间来两三个来回还多。
中... 阅读全帖
s******r
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来自主题: Military版 - 华盛顿邮报刊文警告疮破
满娜福的今天就是疮破的明天。靠马屁精安慰加宪法保护最多拖到2020。
一上法庭万事皆休,剩下的十年可以在监狱度过了。
In sum, when you see a real trial conducted by professional, experienced
prosecutors, you realize the disadvantage Trump and/or others in his
administration may face if cases are brought against them. The prosecutors
will come armed with a mountain of evidence and the Trumpers will cry “
Unfair!” (How’s that working out for Manafort?) Once we move to a venue in
which facts do matter, and Sean Hannity doesn’t get to dismiss out of hand
wh... 阅读全帖
s**********d
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楼主英语太差了。虽然Lindsey是麦肯的把兄弟,never Trumpers的中坚,但今天发言
是在痛骂他前面逼问K的dick Durbin
s**********d
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也不全怪你,他有的话是针对dick的有的是对K的都没有提名字,但你前面听到dick发
言一直下来自然应该知道

:楼主英语太差了。虽然Lindsey是麦肯的把兄弟,never Trumpers的中坚,但今天发言
:是在痛骂他前面逼问K的dick Durbin
b*****d
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来自主题: Military版 - 密西西比真实疮轮的福地
在给你看个11分钟出。David Brooks著名的never trumper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HvJ7xW_uUo
c********e
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来自主题: Military版 - 佩洛西创造历史了
共和党只有在2022夺回众议院 不然怎么搞Pelosi? 宣传机器都在民主党手里 任何绯闻
都金刚不倒的
左,右 和你我的关系都很大 美国左右两派在国内事务上是南辕北辙的差别 不管是
fiscal policy 还是social policy,牵涉到资源调配,财富分配,孩子的教育 ...
"整死希拉里总统梦的是民主党内的人"
- you forgot a bunch of GOP called themselves Never-Trumper? Winner is
winner, loser is loser, no excuse

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Stone Cold Word
Longboat Key, Florida4m ago
AG Barr investigating a missing Twinkie is a joke.
So I am reading all these comments laughing and calling out "conspiracy
theories". It's easy to "throw shade"..... getting "shade to stick" is
another story.
I know this. A high profile prisoner, who supposedly tried to kill
himself just two weeks ago, this guy could not get near a 6 inch piece of
thread. Now that's not a "conspiracy theory".
The "shade slingers" want us to believe that this ego ... 阅读全帖
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越南29户家庭上报家人在欧洲失踪
2019-10-29 16:30:19
据央视新闻客户端10月29日报道,据越南广平省布泽县清泽乡人民委员会29日消息,布
泽乡一户家庭向其报案称家人在“前往英国的途中失联”。据统计,截至目前,越南已
有29户家庭就家人在欧洲失踪向当地人委会报案,其中乂安省18户,河静省10户,广平
省1户。
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Vietnamese authorities send Essex Police list of 14 people who are feared to
be among 39 dead in migrant truck tragedy - after 28 families from rural
provinces come forward
By Paul Thompson In Yen Thanh, Nghe An Province, Vietnam, For Mailonline and
Martin Robinson, Chief Reporter
04:57 EDT 29 Oct 2019 , updated 06:28 EDT 29... 阅读全帖
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Families of migrants feared dead in Essex lorry horror face 'intimidation'
by gang members who are owed up to 拢30,000 for smuggling them into Europe
By Mario Ledwith In Vietnam For The Daily Mail
21:33 EDT 28 Oct 2019 , updated 03:48 EDT 29 Oct 2019
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7624197/Families-migrants-feared-dead-Essex-lorry-horror-face-intimidation-gang-members.html
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Donald Trump blasts impeachment witness as 'Never Trumper' who he's 'never
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c*******e
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估计在两边的打压下,挺不到年底。
r****p
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你的题目的内容不支持你的结论。
m****s
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明显个屁
Trump现在赢面是最大的
越来越多的人识破了媒体的bias
c*******e
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看看吧,在两边的media 打压下,看民调能不能维持住,最后能不能变成真正的选票。
两边基本都被idealogy左右,一边是faith,abortion,一边是强制人人平等。而且对
于非移的问题,其实两边都在扯皮,其实谁也不想真正解决。
m****s
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从开始就被左右媒体打压的 越打压越上升
倒了吗?
FOX除了hanity 没有几个对Trump客观公正的
c*******e
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真不指望媒体公正,尤其是在政治上,媒体应该有自己的立场,像MSNBC,CNN等等都知
道偏liberal和民主党;fox一直是标榜是conservative,但并不推自己这边的人,不但
对trump,还对carson等等其它人,来个soft ball,trap之类的,而且看fox多是共和
党选民,这样对候选人的杀伤力更大,他们实际希望bush出来,这就是crony politics
,基本是变相“世袭”。
T*********I
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我看Fox对Carson和Fiorina很帮忙。昨天看了一个Megyn对Carson的视频。很正面,通
过一个Carson以前治好的小伙子的视频。
对Rubio好像也热起来。
但是对Bush好像不怎么的。
貌似还是随着民调走。

politics
b**********s
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GOP党内大概明白布什是扶不起的阿斗,所以在找下一个,可能是Fiorina. Carson可以
分trump的票,所以也尽量扶持。
c*******e
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对bush不用promote,全美国人都知道,不采访也是一种保护,bush不怎么会说话,也
没魅力,不像奥巴。
昨天采访carson和hp女也有气trump的意思。
T******g
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Hanity还是不错的,像个正常人
c*******e
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limbaugh (很右),hannity,一直promoter conservative agenda,and know in
reality only republican can somehow carry it,然后在极力维护 “republican”
这个 brand,即使你能sense 有时他们并不favor 某个候选人。
其它人要更多是利益驱动,也没有很强“使命感”去推conservative idea。
在左派里,Tom Hartmann 也是这样的人,现在极力推Sanders,但公开说,如果sanders
下去,他就会全力推老太太,所以,Tom的节目里根本不提email server。
t******r
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Fiorina的纪录太差,两个公司都泥马跨了。大选绝对没戏。
r****p
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GOP我谁都能忍,就是不能忍这个人,道德极差,讲话摇头晃脑的样子让人作呕
d*****t
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现在上全民媒体时代,传统电视台已经没啥作用了。川普很可能验证并改变这个时代。
j*****v
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她出來選的話,票的確是投不下去。
b********n
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The GOP establishment and MSM’s coordinated assault on Trump has only made
him more popular.
Negative advertising and in your face attacks on the Teflon Don have left
his opponents burned.
Trump and nice guy Carson gained support at their expense.
Democrats will discover burying Trump in an avalanche of negative
advertising and in your face attacks isn’t going to take him down.
Trump seems pretty much invulnerable.
More than anything the world now sees how dishonest and fraudulent the anti
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来自主题: USANews版 - 这老兄太勇敢了
if these anti-trumpers beat him up, they would be "violent" “criminal"...
now they did not beat him up, they are "恶心""土狗”。
there is old saying "damn if you do and damn if you don't" that you should
really google for...
g********2
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2016 looks like a repeat of 1980
You probably remember that in September 1980 voters were couldn’t wait to
cast a vote for Reagan.
If you remember it like that, you remember wrong. At least a little wrong.
TIME magazine examined voter sentiment in its September 15, 1980, issue.
Voters that year sounded a lot like voters this year. Here’s how TIME’s Ed
Magnuson summarized the voters of 1980:
Disenchanted, but not apathetic. Caring about issues, although much more
concerned about character. Lo... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: USANews版 - 今年是大卫对哥利亚的形势
圣经故事大家多少听过吧?只牧过几年羊的大卫,看不惯以色列被外邦人羞辱,主动请
缨挑战大力士哥利亚。哥利亚正在嘲笑这个小毛孩的时候,被大卫一个弹弓石块一击毙
命。
现实版的哥利亚更巨大,包括了外患还有内鬼. Clintons, Obama, never-trumpers,
elite media, liberal scholars, and other America-haters.
床铺今年选赢了的话,比这个经典圣经故事更精彩!Go Trump!!
S******8
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THE BLOG
The Five Reasons Donald Trump Will Be Our Next President
Aug 20, 2016 | Updated Aug 20, 2016
Bill_Robinson Business, Technology, Entrepreneurship, Politics & Rock ‘n
Roll Journalist
You won’t see another article like this one anywhere else in the
mainstream news media; certainly not in The Huffington Post.
That’s because it’s blatantly obvious that the media doesn’t want Donald
Trump to be elected President.
Think about it: with the possible exception of Fox News, Breitbart and
Drudge, ... 阅读全帖
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一个是Ted Cruz。如果Ted 能够在rally 中为床铺站台,在摇摆州发表一串有分量的演
讲,对于never trumper们,那些保守派里反感床铺、还在犹豫是否今年要出来投票的
人是个很重要的鼓动。在有的州0.5%的变化,就可能使天平改变。
另一个是阿桑奇。Wiki Leak在大选前爆个猛料,打老巫婆一个措手不及。对左疯铁杆
不会有影响,但是让左右摇摆的选民一部分人即使不会改变选择,至少留在家里不去投
希拉痢,就是胜利。

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来自主题: USANews版 - How to Un-Hypnotize a Rabid Anti-Trumper
赞! 真是很好的文章。如果对本版那几个讨厌的ID有耐心的话,可以随时摘取给他们
解惑。

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来自主题: USANews版 - How to Un-Hypnotize a Rabid Anti-Trumper
顶一下
s********t
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1. 拉票中碰到的DEMS, 十个中有八九个已经投过票了。很多GOP还未出动,所以我们
还是有后劲的。
2. 拉票过程中感觉到,landslide victory的阻力其实很大程度上来源于some never
trumpers. 我就亲自covert了七八个。 希望这次FBI的表演,能够成为这些人的wake-
up call and home-coming call.
S******8
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刚刚吃完饭出去消食,在芝加哥南部大农村,看到了5个 T/P牌子,不过更多的是当地
选举的牌子。
路上听AM560,一位女听众打电话给主持人说她自己是一个Rubio 粉丝,受不了川普说
little Marco和 lying Ted, 所以一直以来是一个 Never Trumper,后来了解了希拉里
的政策,最终决定出来投川普。她打电话进来的原因很有意思:谢谢你长期以来对我的
开导,让我投川普时心里不那么咯应了....

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来自主题: USANews版 - Ann Coulter: A Night to Remember
In that spirit, let us revel in the Never Trumpers’ tweets leading up to
Trump’s election night triumph. Now that I’ve had time to do a full
archeological dig, I’m able to present a whole new treasure trove of smug
idiocy.
Save this column to share with your children, and they with their children,
for years to come.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/23/ann-coulter-night-remember/

ought
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"His base is as firm as ever," he said. "What he's lost in the very early
polls is the Republicans who were never Trumpers and ended up voting for
Trump."
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-voters-shrug-global-uproar-over-immigration-ban-n714011
d****n
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来自主题: USANews版 - My favorite tweet tonight
本是个never trumper?
d**e
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来自主题: USANews版 - Trump will fail, but not due to libtards
Mark my words.
Trump will fail pretty miserably, not due to the libtards, but due to the
fucking never-trumper republicans. Many insiders, leaks are from that group.
Sigh
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