m**k
发帖数: 18660 | 1 KUALA LUMPUR: It proved to be two kilometres too far yesterday for Lim Ji
Wei, 25, who collapsed during the Standard Chartered KL Marathon 2010 and
was later pronounced dead at Hospital Kuala Lumpur.
He was declared to have died of a cardiac arrest.
Lim is said to have just returned from UK to take part in the 10km fun run,
together with his sister and her boyfriend yesterday morning, aiming to get
another finisher medal and certificate | T****a
发帖数: 4651 | 2 VERY SAD indeed. It reminds us even though running is a low-risk sport, it
not without risk.
At a party last month, an old friend came up to me and gently reminded me of
serious running risk. Case in point, a 50+ year-old colleague of his died
of cardiac arrest during routine work in his Lab. This guy was actually training for his 2nd
marathon. Though he was not a runner before, in his first marathon last year
, he completed the race within 30 second of BQ!
I told my friend not worry, 'cause I w
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: KUALA LUMPUR: It proved to be two kilometres too far yesterday for Lim Ji
: Wei, 25, who collapsed during the Standard Chartered KL Marathon 2010 and
: was later pronounced dead at Hospital Kuala Lumpur.
: He was declared to have died of a cardiac arrest.
: Lim is said to have just returned from UK to take part in the 10km fun run,
: together with his sister and her boyfriend yesterday morning, aiming to get
: another finisher medal and certificate
| w*******e
发帖数: 2651 | 3 Some people might just be born with heart-related problem.
One of my high school friend went out for a morning run while
in college. He never came back from that run.
I vividly remember his face was pale after he completed
100m dash at high school sports meet. He's a fast runner.
of
training for his 2nd
year
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】
: VERY SAD indeed. It reminds us even though running is a low-risk sport, it
: not without risk.
: At a party last month, an old friend came up to me and gently reminded me of
: serious running risk. Case in point, a 50+ year-old colleague of his died
: of cardiac arrest during routine work in his Lab. This guy was actually training for his 2nd
: marathon. Though he was not a runner before, in his first marathon last year
: , he completed the race within 30 second of BQ!
: I told my friend not worry, 'cause I w
| w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 4 One of the most dangerous episode in my running experience was during last
year's reach the beach relay.
After having run 4 legs and 25 miles, I was fairly tired and didn't refuel
well. I took a redbull before the 5th
leg. My heart was pumping like it was gonna pop out of my chest, even before
I started running, and my
teammate saw that my face was pale and my lips had no color. That final 4-
mile leg was painful -- I was on
the verge of passing out through the run.
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】
: Some people might just be born with heart-related problem.
: One of my high school friend went out for a morning run while
: in college. He never came back from that run.
: I vividly remember his face was pale after he completed
: 100m dash at high school sports meet. He's a fast runner.
:
: of
: training for his 2nd
: year
| T****a
发帖数: 4651 | 5 The tragedy is that this type(s) of heart defect is very hard to detect, so
it is possible more people carry them unknowingly. Remember Ryan Shay? You'd
think a decorated athlete like him would have gone through physicals
regularly and seen plenty of doctors. If there were obvious sign they would
have known.
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】
: Some people might just be born with heart-related problem.
: One of my high school friend went out for a morning run while
: in college. He never came back from that run.
: I vividly remember his face was pale after he completed
: 100m dash at high school sports meet. He's a fast runner.
:
: of
: training for his 2nd
: year
| w*******e
发帖数: 2651 | 6 We learn thru experience.
I bet next time you would not push that hard
if your body is not in good condition.
Running is like a comprehensive project.
Training, planning, fueling, haydration, recovery, ...
Everything has to be in place to produce the
bext result, and avoid injury or the unexpected.
before
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: One of the most dangerous episode in my running experience was during last
: year's reach the beach relay.
: After having run 4 legs and 25 miles, I was fairly tired and didn't refuel
: well. I took a redbull before the 5th
: leg. My heart was pumping like it was gonna pop out of my chest, even before
: I started running, and my
: teammate saw that my face was pale and my lips had no color. That final 4-
: mile leg was painful -- I was on
: the verge of passing out through the run.
| w*******e
发帖数: 2651 | 7 Ryan Shay is a tragedy!
Only you are your best doctor.
so
'd
would
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】
: The tragedy is that this type(s) of heart defect is very hard to detect, so
: it is possible more people carry them unknowingly. Remember Ryan Shay? You'd
: think a decorated athlete like him would have gone through physicals
: regularly and seen plenty of doctors. If there were obvious sign they would
: have known.
| w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 8 My lesson is that I should not drink red bull if I didn't eat enough.:) Too
much caffeine was asking my heart to
do more than it could take.
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】
: We learn thru experience.
: I bet next time you would not push that hard
: if your body is not in good condition.
: Running is like a comprehensive project.
: Training, planning, fueling, haydration, recovery, ...
: Everything has to be in place to produce the
: bext result, and avoid injury or the unexpected.
:
: before
| T****a
发帖数: 4651 | 9 Very important lessen for the rest of us. Thank you.
Now that you mentioned caffeine, GU has several favors that contains 20 mg and even 40 mg of caffeine, I wonder if we should stay away from them during the race, or avoid them entirely?
Too
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: My lesson is that I should not drink red bull if I didn't eat enough.:) Too
: much caffeine was asking my heart to
: do more than it could take.
| w*******e
发帖数: 2651 | 10 I would not drink monster drink or red bull the like
for running, too much artificial stuff!
Too
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: My lesson is that I should not drink red bull if I didn't eat enough.:) Too
: much caffeine was asking my heart to
: do more than it could take.
| | | w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 11 I think a moderate amount of caffeine helps with your performance. GU gels
work fine in my experience. Just
like everything else, you should not overdo it.
if
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】
: Very important lessen for the rest of us. Thank you.
: Now that you mentioned caffeine, GU has several favors that contains 20 mg and even 40 mg of caffeine, I wonder if we should stay away from them during the race, or avoid them entirely?
:
: Too
| w*******e
发帖数: 2651 | 12 It depends,I guess.
I'm not quite over-reactive to caffeine.
I only buy Expresso Love (which is 40mg) because
I like the flavor.
and even 40 mg of caffeine, I wonder if we should stay away from them
during the race, or avoid them entirely?
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】
: Very important lessen for the rest of us. Thank you.
: Now that you mentioned caffeine, GU has several favors that contains 20 mg and even 40 mg of caffeine, I wonder if we should stay away from them during the race, or avoid them entirely?
:
: Too
| b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 13 i still got two boxes of those...
need to finish them first before trying other flavors.
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】
: It depends,I guess.
: I'm not quite over-reactive to caffeine.
: I only buy Expresso Love (which is 40mg) because
: I like the flavor.
:
: and even 40 mg of caffeine, I wonder if we should stay away from them
: during the race, or avoid them entirely?
| T****a
发帖数: 4651 | 14 People's reaction to caffeine can vary by a wide range. I can drink tea
all day but pretty sensitive to coffee. I guess I will stay away from the 40
mg favor just to be consistent with my habit.
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】
: It depends,I guess.
: I'm not quite over-reactive to caffeine.
: I only buy Expresso Love (which is 40mg) because
: I like the flavor.
:
: and even 40 mg of caffeine, I wonder if we should stay away from them
: during the race, or avoid them entirely?
| w*******e
发帖数: 2651 | 15 I drink both, black coffee and tea.
I need to drink tea if I eat dim sum or Chinese snacks.
But coffee is good for the morning before race.
40
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】
: People's reaction to caffeine can vary by a wide range. I can drink tea
: all day but pretty sensitive to coffee. I guess I will stay away from the 40
: mg favor just to be consistent with my habit.
| j**h
发帖数: 1230 | 16 drank XO last night. need get rid of the bad habit of drinking alcohol the
night before a race...
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】
: I drink both, black coffee and tea.
: I need to drink tea if I eat dim sum or Chinese snacks.
: But coffee is good for the morning before race.
:
: 40
| T****a
发帖数: 4651 | 17 I was hoping that HRM will provide some clues for irregular heart activities
. Too bad Garmin's HRM is notoriously unreliable, and I don't wear it as a
habit. Don't know if other brand is any good.
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】
: We learn thru experience.
: I bet next time you would not push that hard
: if your body is not in good condition.
: Running is like a comprehensive project.
: Training, planning, fueling, haydration, recovery, ...
: Everything has to be in place to produce the
: bext result, and avoid injury or the unexpected.
:
: before
| f*******g
发帖数: 3304 | 18 it did happen to some runners, very sad.
I run races hard in the past.
it's very painful (in my heart) in some 'regular pace' races (under hot &
humid weather), i either almost drop out or pray i could finish race earlier
and never race again ````````
my conclusion is -- to prepare a race, we get to have enough break, nutrion
and in good mood ````
,
get
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: KUALA LUMPUR: It proved to be two kilometres too far yesterday for Lim Ji
: Wei, 25, who collapsed during the Standard Chartered KL Marathon 2010 and
: was later pronounced dead at Hospital Kuala Lumpur.
: He was declared to have died of a cardiac arrest.
: Lim is said to have just returned from UK to take part in the 10km fun run,
: together with his sister and her boyfriend yesterday morning, aiming to get
: another finisher medal and certificate
| e****n
发帖数: 4054 | 19 跑步不是low-risk的sport,否则也不会有那么多关节伤病出来了。。
还有人曾说过长跑的人容易便秘，end up with 大肠癌。是不是无稽之谈不知道，反正
我当年长跑的时候有这个毛病。中医也讲血汗同源，亡汗=亡血，这个可能是从电解质
平衡的角度出发的，及时补充电解质可能能改善这个问题。但是就我个人来说，我觉得
跑一个小时就可以了，追求更好的健身效果，可以cross-training了。
of
training for his 2nd
year
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】
: VERY SAD indeed. It reminds us even though running is a low-risk sport, it
: not without risk.
: At a party last month, an old friend came up to me and gently reminded me of
: serious running risk. Case in point, a 50+ year-old colleague of his died
: of cardiac arrest during routine work in his Lab. This guy was actually training for his 2nd
: marathon. Though he was not a runner before, in his first marathon last year
: , he completed the race within 30 second of BQ!
: I told my friend not worry, 'cause I w
| T****a
发帖数: 4651 | 20 Risk is a relative concept. When guys talk about running is low risk, we
are comparing it to contact sports such as soccer, basket ball, etc. The
injuries in those sports are correlated to our age, so sooner or later we
give up on those, and start runnning. That's why you see so many mid-aged
male runners :-)
However, the risk of not doing any regular exercise proved to be much
greater to our health. Running may not be for everyone, it's still more
popular than swimming or cycling, 'cause it doe
【在 e****n 的大作中提到】
: 跑步不是low-risk的sport,否则也不会有那么多关节伤病出来了。。
: 还有人曾说过长跑的人容易便秘，end up with 大肠癌。是不是无稽之谈不知道，反正
: 我当年长跑的时候有这个毛病。中医也讲血汗同源，亡汗=亡血，这个可能是从电解质
: 平衡的角度出发的，及时补充电解质可能能改善这个问题。但是就我个人来说，我觉得
: 跑一个小时就可以了，追求更好的健身效果，可以cross-training了。
:
: of
: training for his 2nd
: year
| | | w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 21 Cycling is definitely the most dangerous sport I do, more so than climbing.
equipment
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】
: Risk is a relative concept. When guys talk about running is low risk, we
: are comparing it to contact sports such as soccer, basket ball, etc. The
: injuries in those sports are correlated to our age, so sooner or later we
: give up on those, and start runnning. That's why you see so many mid-aged
: male runners :-)
: However, the risk of not doing any regular exercise proved to be much
: greater to our health. Running may not be for everyone, it's still more
: popular than swimming or cycling, 'cause it doe
| A****t
发帖数: 759 | 22 I was hit by a car when riding a bike on the street, and the cop gave me a
ticket. it will be a long time before I want to ride again.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Cycling is definitely the most dangerous sport I do, more so than climbing.
:
: equipment
| d**c
发帖数: 588 | 23 长跑的人容易便秘，end up with 大肠癌, that's BS.
长跑(马拉松距离)对心脏的影响是很大的, 长期的马拉松训练到底对心脏是有益还是有
害,并没有一个定论.马拉松论赛后, 很多runner会出现一过性的心肌酶(例如:
Troponin T)的升高, 心肌酶升高是心肌受损的标记, 我们不知道长期大强度训练比赛
的后果是什么. 另外, 还有研究称长期耐力运动会增加房颤的机会.当然, 许多这方面
的研究局限于样本大小, 跟踪时间长短, 很难作出明确的结论, one way or another.
对于本身已有心脏病的人, 参加此类运动更应谨慎.
【在 e****n 的大作中提到】
: 跑步不是low-risk的sport,否则也不会有那么多关节伤病出来了。。
: 还有人曾说过长跑的人容易便秘，end up with 大肠癌。是不是无稽之谈不知道，反正
: 我当年长跑的时候有这个毛病。中医也讲血汗同源，亡汗=亡血，这个可能是从电解质
: 平衡的角度出发的，及时补充电解质可能能改善这个问题。但是就我个人来说，我觉得
: 跑一个小时就可以了，追求更好的健身效果，可以cross-training了。
:
: of
: training for his 2nd
: year
| f*******d
发帖数: 12693 | 24 我咋最近天天拉肚子呢？难道是跑太少了？
【在 d**c 的大作中提到】
: 长跑的人容易便秘，end up with 大肠癌, that's BS.
: 长跑(马拉松距离)对心脏的影响是很大的, 长期的马拉松训练到底对心脏是有益还是有
: 害,并没有一个定论.马拉松论赛后, 很多runner会出现一过性的心肌酶(例如:
: Troponin T)的升高, 心肌酶升高是心肌受损的标记, 我们不知道长期大强度训练比赛
: 的后果是什么. 另外, 还有研究称长期耐力运动会增加房颤的机会.当然, 许多这方面
: 的研究局限于样本大小, 跟踪时间长短, 很难作出明确的结论, one way or another.
: 对于本身已有心脏病的人, 参加此类运动更应谨慎.
| d**c
发帖数: 588 | 25 扒肥店的肉不新鲜.
【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】
: 我咋最近天天拉肚子呢？难道是跑太少了？
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