t********s
发帖数: 450 | 1 大家成天问学校，查排名，我看还是家长的切身评价最权威。
排名受排名的标准和学校参加的考试影响，较片面。
还是请在校学生或毕业学生的家长给大家讲讲吧。
根据信息量的多少决定伪币奖励，10-100伪币。预算1000伪币。
先从几所大家经常问的中学起。
Interlake High
Bellevue High
Newport High
Sammamish Senior High
Skyline High
版主组织的第一个活动，看看有没有家长响应。
Reply to this post please. |
v**********o
发帖数: 11689 | 2 赞活动
【在 t********s 的大作中提到】
: 大家成天问学校，查排名，我看还是家长的切身评价最权威。
: 排名受排名的标准和学校参加的考试影响，较片面。
: 还是请在校学生或毕业学生的家长给大家讲讲吧。
: 根据信息量的多少决定伪币奖励，10-100伪币。预算1000伪币。
: 先从几所大家经常问的中学起。
: Interlake High
: Bellevue High
: Newport High
: Sammamish Senior High
: Skyline High
|
i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 3 The ranking of 2012-13 is the last known good, as 14-15 has opt out:
RANK SCHOOL FREE_LUNCH_% SCORE
RANK SCHOOL FREE LUNCH SCORE
1 International School 4.40% 86.44
2 International Community School 2.90% 85.35
3 Aviation High School 18.50% 84.78
4 Newport Senior High School 12.80% 84.46
5 Vancouver School Of Arts And Academics 23.10% 84.31
6 Cam Academy 13.70% 84.3
7 Orcas Island High School 0.00% 83.68
8 Skyline High School 4.60% 83.33
9 Bainbridge High School 6.90% 83.19
10 Vashon Island High School 17.60% 82.13
11 Libby Center 21.40% 82.07
12 Issaquah High School 9.80% 81.73
13 Home Program 23.60% 81.51
14 Mount Si High School 14.70% 81.43
15 Woodinville High School 12.20% 81.21
16 Harrison Prep School 45.60% 80.87
17 Ridgefield High School 29.90% 80.78
18 Glacier Peak High School 12.60% 80.7
19 Camas High School 18.20% 80.32
20 Kamiak High School 18.30% 80.31
21 Freeman High School 17.70% 80.27
22 Interlake Senior High School 24.80% 80.18
23 Bellevue High School 12.20% 80.08
24 Olympia High School 19.30% 79.98
25 Gig Harbor High 10.70% 79.84
26 Mercer Island High School 3.70% 79.68
27 Eastlake High School 5.60% 79.63
28 Colfax High School 34.50% 79.6
29 Roosevelt High School 16.00% 79.56
30 Tahoma Senior High School 14.80% 79.29
31 Inglemoor High School 15.60% 79.16
32 Liberty Senior High School 14.60% 78.9
33 Bothell High School 21.60% 78.87
34 Palouse High School 28.80% 78.53
35 Clallam Bay High & Elementary 54.70% 78.29
36 Sehome High School 28.60% 78.21
37 Waitsburg High School 27.40% 78.16
38 Naselle Junior Senior High Schools 51.60% 77.8
39 Eagle Harbor High School 12.00% 77.77
40 Lake Washington High 15.50% 77.49
41 Redmond High 12.40% 77.41
42 Ballard High School 20.20% 76.87 |
i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 4 Free lunch% is a reflection of neighborhood poverty rate, it will impact
ranking positively.
Sammamish Sr. High's rank is too low. Both interlake and Sammamish Sr were
threats to property value of 98004(north-east)/98005/98006(east) of the last
redistrict.
Interlake has gifted class there, with that, it ranks just close to Bellevue
High, so this is not a school for kids less than gifted.
International schools are charter schools, which take funding from SD, but
run independently, they should not be considered in ranking of SD, but
should benefit ranking of School district nonetheless.
These are good/acceptable schools in seattle and eastside. I think listing
agent often proud to say
good school in these area:
1 International School
2 International Community School
4 Newport Senior High School
8 Skyline High School
12 Issaquah High School
15 Woodinville High School
22 Interlake Senior High School
23 Bellevue High School
26 Mercer Island High School
27 Eastlake High School
29 Roosevelt High School (SEATTLE)
31 Inglemoor High School
32 Liberty Senior High School
33 Bothell High School
40 Lake Washington High
41 Redmond High
42 Ballard High School (SEATTLE) |
x***u
发帖数: 297 | 5 有劳把排名注释一遍。
还请各位家长响应一下号召，介绍一下亲身经历？
对我家没有什么帮助了，刚刚搬家过来租了房。在老大上完高中前估计不会动了。我等
过一段时间再来报告。
By the way，房子大半是空着的。到六月中家人才会搬过来。如果有人需要临时住一下
，我可以帮忙:) |
w*******e
发帖数: 1588 | 6 Bellevue School District has more fund to spend than others in the East side
, so they can offer after school tutoring, and gifted program all the way to
high school. This is unbeatable. For individual schools, one may still want
to avoid a couple schools in Bellevue due to students and teaching.
Sammamish High offers STEM program, and is building a new campus, which
added quite value to that school, but most Chinese people won't go, due to
too many "bad" students there. If your kid's in not in gifted program, going
to Interlake is just like going to another very ordinary school, perhaps
very easy to get "A" grades if you think positively.
For elementary schools, it might be a good idea to put kids into a place
where there are more Americans than international people, yet still offers
gifted program in case your kid is that good. I've heard that it's very
competitive to get into gifted program in Lake Washington School District.
Issaquah and Bellevue are a little easier. |
z*********a
发帖数: 335 | 7 转帖：(blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_57b873f80102et6h.html)
西雅图地区的学区和学校比较
（http://www.greatschools.net/modperl/go/WA）
Below are the comparison on the different schools in Washington State, in
terms of academic achievements and also population demographics.
一. Bellevue School District学区
1. High school
Newport Senior High School和Bellevue High School:
Newport high稍微好些(78%对76%, 多2%的学生上大学)
这两所学校都比inter-lake high和Sammamish Senior High好。
不过, International School应该是最好的, 但是录取是凭抽奖的(lottery). 有两个
International school, 一个在kirkland, 还有一个在Bellevue.
2. Middle school
Tyee > chinook > odle > tillicum > highland
3. Elementary school
Medina > Somerset, Cherry Crest > eastgate > Puesta del Sol,Spiritridge
Elementary > stevenson, Entai> clyder Hill, woodridge > Phantom Lake > lake
Hills, Sherwood Forest
备注: Somerset是属于Bellevue学区的.
High School: Newport Snr High
Middle School: Tyee Mid
Elementary School: Somerset Elem
二. Issaquah学区
1. High School
Issaquah High, Skyline high接近Bellevue High, 都比Liberty Senior High好.
2. Middle school
Beaver Lake (seeme a little bit than Tyee in Bellevue) > Pine Lake > Issaqua
> Maywood
3. Elementary School
Endeavour(比Somerset小学稍好) > SunnyHills, Discovery > Cougar Ridge, Sunset
,Grand Ridge > Newcastle,Maple Hills > Issaquah Valley
三. Lake Washington学区
1. High School
International Community(Kirkland) > Eastlake(Sammamish), Redmond High(
Redmond) > Lake Washington (Kirkland) > Juanita High (Kirkland)
2. Middle School
Inglewood Junior High > Redmond Junior High
西雅图东区房子情况比较
以下西雅图eastside房地产价格情况比较, 供想搬来西雅图工作居住的朋友参考.
----
Bellevue: 好学区的房太贵，新点好点的买不起，旧点差点的又觉得划不来，就是找不
到适中的。Bellevue烂学区的房基本不能考虑，学区实在太烂，以后不好卖.
Redmond: 新房比较贵，院子一般都很小，住户很密集，上班交通也不太方便，520很恶
心, 要收费了，交通不便宜。
Kirkland：房子档次貌似比其它地区低，学区和交通都不太好。
Issaquah highland: 房子密集得有点吓人，院子太小，价位却不低，性价比不好。
Sammamish: 新房相对比较便宜，但是太偏远，交通和购物都不方便。在建在卖的房太
多，从长远看不保值.
----
以上根据网上文章修改.
posted by Jian
Comments (2)
1# visitor 2011-02-24 16:27
Kirkland和Redmond 是一个学区，挨着I405交通很方便。
豪宅多得很。
2# Seattle2011 2011-08-04 10:59
除非在微软或者Kirkland的公司上班, 否则Bellevue和Redmond比较来说, Bellevue交
通方便多了。特别是将来520马上要收费了, 如果到西雅图上班的话，还是住在
Bellevue合适.
相关文章请看 Seattle Gifted Program 和 Highly Recommended Educational Toys.
posted by oldcat
Comments (11)
1# 剑知小站网友 2009-04-27 14:48
I think your data are based on test scores. If a school has a large gifted
program, that would elevate the school significantly. In Bellevue, Stevenson
/Odle/Interlake have gifted programs, excluding them, the schools' test
scores could be much worse. In addition, the elementary gifted program is
moving from Stevenson to Spiritridge in 2010-2011, so expecting Spiritridge
to jump to the very top.
2# 剑知小站网友 2009-05-11 11:40
I feel LWSD is much better than Issaquah.
3# 剑知小站网友 2009-05-11 14:16
我觉得还得看个别学校，要是一条龙的话，还是sommerset-tyee-newport high好
4# 剑知小站网友 2009-05-27 13:32
How about Mercer Island?
5# 剑知小站网友 2009-05-27 14:18
Mercer不错的
6# oldcat 2009-05-27 17:52
Mercer Island当然好了，不过房价也贵的可以！所以一般都被排除在外。
7# Seattle2011 2011-06-28 14:42
听说Sammamish南边的学区不错, Issaquah的学校，山下的不是特别好.
8# Seattle2011 2011-07-23 02:15
en, 西雅图最好学区应该是Bellevue, Mercer Island的学区也相当不错.
9# Jian 2011-12-19 12:23
有人问Redmond 98052的school学区如何. 这个我不太清楚. 如果有人知道的话, 希望
回帖.
10# Jian 2012-06-29 17:35
现在听到有一种说法是, 因为很多老中老印住在Issaquah和Sammamish, 而且都是微软
啥的, 将来这两个地方的学区质量会比现在好得多. 这个我觉得有一定的道理. 不过,
至于什么时候整体上赶上Bellevue, 难说.
11# Jian 2012-06-29 18:21
网上看到有人说Renton东边(也就是Renton Highland)的学区也属于Issaquah School
District. 那样的话, 质量应该也还行.
西雅图Bellevue Somerset学区到底好不好?
最近经常有朋友问我到底somerset学区好不好, 所以, 就我个人的经验写写体会.
somerset的学区，小学是somerset小学，中学是tyee, 高中是new port high. 按照学
校每年的report card的结果，基本上是西雅图最好的学区之一了。
在这个学区里面亚裔的比例，小学是50%, 中学和高中基本上35%. 所以，经常听到很多
人都说"亚洲人太多的学校竞争太激烈, 感觉上对孩子并不好", 而且还有这种说法: "
亚裔多的学校是因为家长重视学习，而不是老师教的好. 白人多的学校，课外活动会搞
得更好一些."
当初我家老大上kindergarten之前，我们也是仔细做了一番调研。矛盾了很久之后，认
为好学校之所以好肯定是有原因的。所以，最后我们还是选择了somerset.
老大kindergarten的班上, 一共26个学生，白人的小孩儿占了一半多一点, 其他的都算
是亚裔，但大部分是混血儿，其次是日本韩国的,还有一些是台湾,新加坡和马来西亚的
。地地道道大陆来的中国人，只有两个，包括我家老大.说来也好玩，尽管他们班里的
混血儿的父母都有一方是会说中文或者是二代的华人，但是会说中文的小孩就我儿子一
个，所以他们同学之间交流全部是英文，我儿子因此十分骄傲，因为经常有家长夸他
smart,只因为他可以流利的说两种语言，这也成为促进我儿子学习中文的动力。
我儿子preshool上的是私立，以白人小孩居多，pre-k时，班上都是白人小孩，只有我
儿子一个亚洲人。说实话我一点也没有觉得好，因为毕竟有文化背景的原因，和白人的
父母打交道，也就是说上几句话或者点点头. 大家彼此就是客气，我儿子也没有交到什
么朋友，他主要都是和老师一起活动。现在就不一样了，自从他上了kindergarten以后
，有了不少好朋友，经常要set一些playdate，当然一起玩的同学以亚洲人居多，不过
也有不少白人的小孩朋友.
Somerset小学很重视多文化的氛围，每年都有International Day, 就是学校组织大家
互相交流各国的文化。我也和很多家长都成了朋友。我儿子比以前高兴了许多，也更加
自信了。我有个朋友的小孩就在Bellevue的另一所白人较多的学校，他们班上只有他一
个亚洲人，他就很孤单，基本上没有朋友，他父母每次开家长会时也觉得很难受。
至于说竞争激烈，亚裔父母是很重视教育，但我觉得远远没有白人父母重视的多，至少
我儿子的班上是这样的. 亚裔双职工的父母居多，每天白天上班，晚上管孩子，毕竟时
间有限。但是白人小孩的妈妈都是在家妈妈，他们很多都在学校做义工，跟老师打成一
片，经常询问小孩的进度. 再有他们的家庭都很富裕，有很多的投入。我儿子在班上是
在top的group里的，但是这个group 6个小孩除了一个混血儿，一个韩裔的小孩以外，
其他3个都是白人的小孩。所以说实际上还是要和白人小孩竞争的。
说到课外活动，somerset小学的活动非常多，主要是因为他们的家长教师联合会(PTSA)
非常的活跃，但也有不好的一面，就是这里的富人很多，大多是白人，所以学校经常会
组织捐款的活动，说到捐款的数额, 我们就远远比不上白人了。
总体来说我们到目前为止还是很满意这个学校的. 我儿子的老师也不错，她是属于要求
比较严格的那种，这一年来我儿子改掉了许多坏习惯，学习明显的进步了，尤其是写作
，我儿子从根本不会到现在已经可以写不短的小段文章了。当然这也不全是老师的功劳
，我想我的遗传基因也是起到主要作用的，哈哈哈！
写了这么多，主要就是为了阐明我的个人观点，我认为还是亚裔多一点的学校比较好，
至少大家都有认同感，小孩子会觉得自在很多。白人多的学校只有去了你才会体会到那
种隐隐约约的歧视，除非你就是那种根本不说中文也不打算要你的小孩学中文的。即使
那样你也不一定就能打入到白人的圈子里的。对小孩来说真的很难过。 |
i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 8 The article is not totally correct, elementary rank:
Smith (LWSD) > Blackwell (LWSD) > Somerset.
High school:
Newport > Skyline (Issaquah ISD) > Issaquah high (Issaquah ISD) >
Bellevue high.
School district ranking (last 4 year):
MLIB,MLBI,MLBI,IMLB(2014-15).
last 4 year average:
Mercer Island> LWSD >Issaquah ISD>Bellevue ISD |
i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 9 Funding per student ranking within state (2005 data).
Skykomish 21,251.86
Snoqualmie 15,009.42
Renton 14,025.09
Bellevue 13,289.37
Seattle 12,372.75
Highline 11,999.08
Northshore 11,461.04
Issaquah 11,012.99
Vashon 10,981.37
Tukwila 10,764.37
Shoreline 10,510.85
Lake Washington 10,403.34
Auburn 10,397.59
Mercer 9,668.44
Kent 9,413.36
Federal 9,017.84
Riverview 8,960.06
Tahoma 8,631.05
Enumclaw 8,328.00 |
i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 10 Renton & Snoqualmie ISD on eastside have better funding than Bellevue ISD,
while mercer has much less than all these. It does not seem to correlate.
side
to
want
going
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】
: Bellevue School District has more fund to spend than others in the East side
: , so they can offer after school tutoring, and gifted program all the way to
: high school. This is unbeatable. For individual schools, one may still want
: to avoid a couple schools in Bellevue due to students and teaching.
: Sammamish High offers STEM program, and is building a new campus, which
: added quite value to that school, but most Chinese people won't go, due to
: too many "bad" students there. If your kid's in not in gifted program, going
: to Interlake is just like going to another very ordinary school, perhaps
: very easy to get "A" grades if you think positively.
: For elementary schools, it might be a good idea to put kids into a place
|
|
|
r*****l
发帖数: 302 | 11 楼上引用的几篇都太outdated了。
其实学校好坏排名每年都会有上下，但是每个学区的传统意义上的好学校都不怎么改变
。 学校的好坏跟小孩子本身也有关系，也不是都一窝蜂地挤到 Newport就好，因才施
教才是正道。 |
z*********a
发帖数: 335 | 12 其实都是屁股决定脑袋
你家房子买在哪里，你就会说哪个学区/学校好
只有成绩排名，贫困生指数，周围房价，这些硬指标是客观的
其他都是主观，讨论三年也没结果 |
i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 13 The score rank is more solid (it only is available till 2013), 14-15 is no
longer available, and it was as good as possible.
The district funding data is only available for 2005.
The free lunch percentage is more stable than any others.
【在 z*********a 的大作中提到】
: 其实都是屁股决定脑袋
: 你家房子买在哪里，你就会说哪个学区/学校好
: 只有成绩排名，贫困生指数，周围房价，这些硬指标是客观的
: 其他都是主观，讨论三年也没结果
|
i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 14 You can go to school digger to see the earlier year rankings, the east side
schools (Newport, Skyline, Issaquah, ...()... Bellevue..) were not changed
for last 4-5 years.
There is no funding data seen other than that one.
One year earlier, high school ranking:
1 International School Bellevue School District Bellevue 06 12 547 19.8 5.1%
88.88
3 International Community School Lake Washington School District Kirkland 06
12 380 23.3 1.8% 88.15
8 Newport Senior High School Bellevue School District Bellevue 09 12 1679 20
.6 13.7% 85.75
9 Skyline High School Issaquah School District Sammamish 09 12 1969 25.2 4.6
% 84.97
11 Mercer Island High School Mercer Island School District Mercer Island 09
12 1453 22.7 4.1% 83.53
13 Issaquah High School Issaquah School District Issaquah 09 12 1892 25.0 8.
1% 83.00
14 Woodinville High School Northshore School District Woodinville 10 12 1327
23.3 11.9% 82.33
18 Liberty Senior High School Issaquah School District Renton 09 12 1225 23.
5 13.6% 80.89
20 Interlake Senior High School Bellevue School District Bellevue 09 12 1510
20.5 23.3% 80.62
【在 r*****l 的大作中提到】
: 楼上引用的几篇都太outdated了。
: 其实学校好坏排名每年都会有上下，但是每个学区的传统意义上的好学校都不怎么改变
: 。 学校的好坏跟小孩子本身也有关系，也不是都一窝蜂地挤到 Newport就好，因才施
: 教才是正道。
|
i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 15 These are school digger's ranking prior to the opt-out testing movement last
year. These data were accurate and most up to date as much as possible, and
were as much 硬指标 as possible. It leaves people to interpret from their
屁股.
【在 x***u 的大作中提到】
: 有劳把排名注释一遍。
: 还请各位家长响应一下号召，介绍一下亲身经历？
: 对我家没有什么帮助了，刚刚搬家过来租了房。在老大上完高中前估计不会动了。我等
: 过一段时间再来报告。
: By the way，房子大半是空着的。到六月中家人才会搬过来。如果有人需要临时住一下
: ，我可以帮忙:)
|
t********s
发帖数: 450 | 16 很高兴看到大家踊跃发言。
有些人提供了一些排名。请注明排名来源。
另外房地产中介会有bias，请自觉回避参与这次活动。
还是希望有家长参加。
老中家长很关心的爬藤率，有没有人有数据？
如果家长有顾虑暴露ID，可以私信给我，
我匿名共享给大家。
【在 t********s 的大作中提到】
: 大家成天问学校，查排名，我看还是家长的切身评价最权威。
: 排名受排名的标准和学校参加的考试影响，较片面。
: 还是请在校学生或毕业学生的家长给大家讲讲吧。
: 根据信息量的多少决定伪币奖励，10-100伪币。预算1000伪币。
: 先从几所大家经常问的中学起。
: Interlake High
: Bellevue High
: Newport High
: Sammamish Senior High
: Skyline High
|
d***b
发帖数: 176 | 17 somerset怕是80-90%都是亚裔吧，尤其gifted |
z*********a
发帖数: 335 | 18 数据也可以选择性引用
比如排名靠前的，有些抽签的，有些除去天才班就是烂校的，都看你怎么解释了
last
and
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】
: These are school digger's ranking prior to the opt-out testing movement last
: year. These data were accurate and most up to date as much as possible, and
: were as much 硬指标 as possible. It leaves people to interpret from their
: 屁股.
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x*******1
发帖数: 28835 | 19 公校都彻底烂到家，有什么好比的。 中国人没钱送顶级private school，档次低，就
在这些public school里面比来比去。 搞个心理优越感。 |
z*****4
发帖数: 13 | 20 感谢版主发起这个讨论，感谢回帖发学校info的朋友。
至于楼上，在另一个讨论学校的贴你也在泼冷水，这是什么心理啊，别人讨论学校碍着
你了么？ |
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x*******1
发帖数: 28835 | 21 没看到什么有用的infor，只是把这些学校化成369等。要说什么心里， 你得自己问问
自己。
【在 z*****4 的大作中提到】
: 感谢版主发起这个讨论，感谢回帖发学校info的朋友。
: 至于楼上，在另一个讨论学校的贴你也在泼冷水，这是什么心理啊，别人讨论学校碍着
: 你了么？
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i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 22 排名靠前的，有些抽签的，有些除去天才班就是烂校的，都看你怎么解释了
Can you offer some other explanation?
1. 排名靠前的: Rank better is better as there were no other authority, and
these previous ranking has been accepted as a good standard. Can you come up
with a new ranking more convincing?
2. 有些抽签的: Are you referring international school? They did superb, are
there any doubt? What you want to offer for explanation?
3. 有些除去天才班就是烂校的: Gifted class will do better for overall school
score, were there any doubt? Do you not believe otherwise it shall be
considered lower for general population?
What point you want to make?
【在 z*********a 的大作中提到】
: 数据也可以选择性引用
: 比如排名靠前的，有些抽签的，有些除去天才班就是烂校的，都看你怎么解释了
:
: last
: and
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a********e
发帖数: 5779 | 23 同意interlake就是烂校。
up
are
school
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】
: 排名靠前的，有些抽签的，有些除去天才班就是烂校的，都看你怎么解释了
: Can you offer some other explanation?
: 1. 排名靠前的: Rank better is better as there were no other authority, and
: these previous ranking has been accepted as a good standard. Can you come up
: with a new ranking more convincing?
: 2. 有些抽签的: Are you referring international school? They did superb, are
: there any doubt? What you want to offer for explanation?
: 3. 有些除去天才班就是烂校的: Gifted class will do better for overall school
: score, were there any doubt? Do you not believe otherwise it shall be
: considered lower for general population?
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i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 24 There is, and will be, ranking for schools. And schools will be classified
into tiers. Isn't ranking an important acknowledgements to the achievements
of these schools?
Why people choose prestigious universities? The rankings enabled people to
choose between bad and good, good and better. Even company rank their
employee into tiers so that they can make a choice.
Ranking enables choices, unless you were not choosing because you care only
about private school. Oh, private school, which one to choose? can you rank
it?
【在 x*******1 的大作中提到】
: 没看到什么有用的infor，只是把这些学校化成369等。要说什么心里， 你得自己问问
: 自己。
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P*******5
发帖数: 24 | 25 同意版主说的, "排名受排名的标准和学校参加的考试影响，较片面". 五花八门的排名
网站多的很，没有统一标准。甚至有的只凭几个家长反馈。那样的排名不仅片面而且误
导。
老中的目标都是一样，就是希望孩子将来能进一个好大学。从这方面讲最值得看的参数
的是过去几年毕业生进好大学的比例。另一个很能说明问题的数字是多少有学龄孩子的
家庭从别的学校搬到了那个学校附近，又有多少家庭搬了出去。搬家不是个简单事情，
要下这么大决心一定是那个学校值得去。 我没有升学率的统计数字， 但近十年看到无
数家庭在孩子上学前从附近搬到Newport/Bellevue HS地区。 搬出去的家庭很少，而且
除了受失业影响都是在孩子高中毕业后。讨论抽签和通过考试才能进的学校没太大意义
。毕竟那些学校不是你想去就能去的。
up
are
school
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】
: 排名靠前的，有些抽签的，有些除去天才班就是烂校的，都看你怎么解释了
: Can you offer some other explanation?
: 1. 排名靠前的: Rank better is better as there were no other authority, and
: these previous ranking has been accepted as a good standard. Can you come up
: with a new ranking more convincing?
: 2. 有些抽签的: Are you referring international school? They did superb, are
: there any doubt? What you want to offer for explanation?
: 3. 有些除去天才班就是烂校的: Gifted class will do better for overall school
: score, were there any doubt? Do you not believe otherwise it shall be
: considered lower for general population?
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P*******5
发帖数: 24 | 26 没有有用的话说可以不说。
【在 x*******1 的大作中提到】
: 公校都彻底烂到家，有什么好比的。 中国人没钱送顶级private school，档次低，就
: 在这些public school里面比来比去。 搞个心理优越感。
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i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 27 People don't move because school only. Your suggested criteria is not better
than the school digger or other website. Besides, how does other site ranks
the schools? I think it was very similar until recent opt-out change.
【在 P*******5 的大作中提到】
: 同意版主说的, "排名受排名的标准和学校参加的考试影响，较片面". 五花八门的排名
: 网站多的很，没有统一标准。甚至有的只凭几个家长反馈。那样的排名不仅片面而且误
: 导。
: 老中的目标都是一样，就是希望孩子将来能进一个好大学。从这方面讲最值得看的参数
: 的是过去几年毕业生进好大学的比例。另一个很能说明问题的数字是多少有学龄孩子的
: 家庭从别的学校搬到了那个学校附近，又有多少家庭搬了出去。搬家不是个简单事情，
: 要下这么大决心一定是那个学校值得去。 我没有升学率的统计数字， 但近十年看到无
: 数家庭在孩子上学前从附近搬到Newport/Bellevue HS地区。 搬出去的家庭很少，而且
: 除了受失业影响都是在孩子高中毕业后。讨论抽签和通过考试才能进的学校没太大意义
: 。毕竟那些学校不是你想去就能去的。
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P*******5
发帖数: 24 | 28 要看ranking最权威的是USNews. 你可以自己去查一下。但即使那个ranking也不全面。
仅凭标准考试来衡量学生和学校的好坏是个过时的观念。好大学挑选的是综合素质高的
学生。除了学习成绩还有很多其他内容。所以源源不断往Ivy League或同等级别的学校
输送学生的就是好学区，家长就愿意去。其实就那么简单。很多schooldigger说的好学
区没人愿意去说明没人信那个排名。
better
ranks
high
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】
: People don't move because school only. Your suggested criteria is not better
: than the school digger or other website. Besides, how does other site ranks
: the schools? I think it was very similar until recent opt-out change.
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i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 29 你认为US News更权威？这是他们ranking的base criteria，可以说是最不靠谱的：
"
U.S. News factored in how effectively schools educated their least-
advantaged students – those of black, Hispanic and low-income backgrounds.
Finally, schools were assessed on how well they prepared students for
college based on participation in and performance on Advanced Placement and
International Baccalaureate exams. "
你不会以为Bellevue high 比Newport 好吧？Sammamish Sr. 在Top 10（上大学率只有
五成強），欢迎家长送去啊，估计是个老中都不愿往这牛校送吧。这排名就是按老墨老
黑的帮助程度排的。除非你家不是老中不然这ranking对你有帮助嘛？你能claim是老黑
多得帮助不成？这种就是典型左逼媒体的排名，他们不是为帮你老中排。
School digger 用分数排名，同是Asian的话，可能只有这才靠谱吧。
再说，去的地方就是为了学校吗？哪个school digger 的好学区沒人去？学校只是
location的一部分，最后还是多个因素的权衡。比如Belltown，location好，抢的人多
，学校很烂。比起Seattle的uw和capital hill，bellevue抢得弱多了，那里三到五成
的加
价不稀罕，学校可没法和东区比。
【在 P*******5 的大作中提到】
: 要看ranking最权威的是USNews. 你可以自己去查一下。但即使那个ranking也不全面。
: 仅凭标准考试来衡量学生和学校的好坏是个过时的观念。好大学挑选的是综合素质高的
: 学生。除了学习成绩还有很多其他内容。所以源源不断往Ivy League或同等级别的学校
: 输送学生的就是好学区，家长就愿意去。其实就那么简单。很多schooldigger说的好学
: 区没人愿意去说明没人信那个排名。
:
: better
: ranks
: high
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t********s
发帖数: 450 | 30 我也从个人角度参与一下讨论。
我比较赞成PoorGuy15的说法。可惜没有什么爬藤率的数据，
所以希望有家长说一说。
另外，不是每个学校对所有的学生都是最好的。有文科好的学校，有理科好的，
有社团活动多的，有乐队办的好的，有某项体育好的。这些家长比较知道，
网络上不容易找到。所以一直想请家长发言。
没有唯一的标准，觉得还是适合自己小孩特长和发展方向的好。
【在 P*******5 的大作中提到】
: 要看ranking最权威的是USNews. 你可以自己去查一下。但即使那个ranking也不全面。
: 仅凭标准考试来衡量学生和学校的好坏是个过时的观念。好大学挑选的是综合素质高的
: 学生。除了学习成绩还有很多其他内容。所以源源不断往Ivy League或同等级别的学校
: 输送学生的就是好学区，家长就愿意去。其实就那么简单。很多schooldigger说的好学
: 区没人愿意去说明没人信那个排名。
:
: better
: ranks
: high
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i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 31 爬藤率的数据 is not necessary good criteria either. For example, Sammamish
Sr High, could have easily be skewed by some black or Latinos able to get
into some good college, while some school don't have these population.
If it is all Chinese student that you want to care, then there is only Score
ranking. Do you believe one school has significant advantage over others
for Chinese student on other stuff that able to propel them into university?
【在 t********s 的大作中提到】
: 我也从个人角度参与一下讨论。
: 我比较赞成PoorGuy15的说法。可惜没有什么爬藤率的数据，
: 所以希望有家长说一说。
: 另外，不是每个学校对所有的学生都是最好的。有文科好的学校，有理科好的，
: 有社团活动多的，有乐队办的好的，有某项体育好的。这些家长比较知道，
: 网络上不容易找到。所以一直想请家长发言。
: 没有唯一的标准，觉得还是适合自己小孩特长和发展方向的好。
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j*******l
发帖数: 1066 | 32 中国人没钱 不对吧
lakeside 一年学费才3万 初中+高中7年才21万
bellevue房子动不动就上百万
【在 x*******1 的大作中提到】
: 公校都彻底烂到家，有什么好比的。 中国人没钱送顶级private school，档次低，就
: 在这些public school里面比来比去。 搞个心理优越感。
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j*******l
发帖数: 1066 | 33 除了公立学校外 怎么没有人谈谈私校
lakeside 和 overlake 进藤校每年都是几十个吧
另外我对international school有点好奇 如果是随机抽人进校 怎么能保证7年后成绩
比其他学校高这么多？ |
j*******l
发帖数: 1066 | 34 “写了这么多，主要就是为了阐明我的个人观点，我认为还是亚裔多一点的学校比较好，
至少大家都有认同感，小孩子会觉得自在很多。白人多的学校只有去了你才会体会到那
种隐隐约约的歧视，除非你就是那种根本不说中文也不打算要你的小孩学中文的。即使
那样你也不一定就能打入到白人的圈子里的。对小孩来说真的很难过。”
这个我同意 但亚裔多一点和亚裔占多数还是不一样吧
Bellevue high的亚裔也有25% 白人56%
Newport high亚裔有42% 和白人一样多
而藤校和顶级私校的亚洲比例在18-25%之间 相比较下 Newport high的亚裔比例就高了
许多
https://k12.niche.com/bellevue-high-school-bellevue-wa/
https://k12.niche.com/newport-senior-high-school-bellevue-wa/
【在 z*********a 的大作中提到】
: 转帖：(blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_57b873f80102et6h.html)
: 西雅图地区的学区和学校比较
: （http://www.greatschools.net/modperl/go/WA）
: Below are the comparison on the different schools in Washington State, in
: terms of academic achievements and also population demographics.
: 一. Bellevue School District学区
: 1. High school
: Newport Senior High School和Bellevue High School:
: Newport high稍微好些(78%对76%, 多2%的学生上大学)
: 这两所学校都比inter-lake high和Sammamish Senior High好。
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P*******5
发帖数: 24 | 35 抽签的确不能保证选到好学生。但international师生比例高又强调学习， AP考试成绩
比天才班以外的公立学校好很多。但从上名校的比例看，international没并什么优势
。似乎还不如Newport. 这可能是因为他们的学生没多少课外活动的机会。
【在 j*******l 的大作中提到】
: 除了公立学校外 怎么没有人谈谈私校
: lakeside 和 overlake 进藤校每年都是几十个吧
: 另外我对international school有点好奇 如果是随机抽人进校 怎么能保证7年后成绩
: 比其他学校高这么多？
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i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 36 "但从上名校的比例看，international没并什么优势 。似乎还不如Newport." are you
sure? After-school program, how are you come up with its lacking behind at
all? It always rank ahead of Newport.
"
A Drama Program is offered after school, producing about two plays a year.
Jubilee Sports began working at the school in 2012, providing sporting
opportunities to middle schoolers. The PE department also traditionally
conducts after school sports for middle schoolers four times a year;
ultimate frisbee, badminton, volleyball, and track and field. IS does not
offer high school sports. High schoolers may play sports at their home
schools.
The school is also well known for its FIRST Robotics team, 492, the Titan
Robotics Club. The Robotics team recently competed in the 2015 FIRST
Robotics World Championship in St.Louis, Missouri. The team's alliance
ranked 5th in the competition out of the 600 teams competing. They are the
only Pacific Northwest team to rank so high for 13 years.
Science Club at IS works to spread a love of science throughout the school.
They traditionally participate once a year in the Bonneville Power
Administration's regional Science Bowl at the University of Portland in
Portland, Oregon.
The school's JSA chapter, Junior State of America, which is a student-run
youth political awareness organization known around the country, is yet
another well known club at the school. As of 2014-15, the regular attendance
at meetings is about 50, or almost 15% of the eligible population (the club
is high school only). The International School won "Chapter of the Year" in
2011-2012 school year, and was nominated for the national "Civic Engagement
" award along with a total of nine other schools in the nation. Many IS JSA
members also regularly win awards and honours at conventions, and hold high
places in the regional administration.
A branch of Jane Goodall's Roots and Shoots maintains a club at the school,
and works to promote community and kindness. There is also a branch of Key
Club.
The school is also known for its award-winning jazz choir, "iJazz," under
the direction of Mike Scott. They have won and placed in competitions
frequently since Scott's arrival at the school in 2010. In 2012, they placed
2nd in Division I at the Columbia Basin College (CBC) Jazz Unlimited
Festival in Pasco, WA; in 2013, they returned to CBC to take 1st place in
their division. In January 2013, they placed 3rd overall out of over 50
vocal jazz ensembles at Bellevue College's Pacific Vocal Jazz Festival.
【在 P*******5 的大作中提到】
: 抽签的确不能保证选到好学生。但international师生比例高又强调学习， AP考试成绩
: 比天才班以外的公立学校好很多。但从上名校的比例看，international没并什么优势
: 。似乎还不如Newport. 这可能是因为他们的学生没多少课外活动的机会。
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P*******5
发帖数: 24 | 37 碰上个爱抬杠的主...
you
at
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】
: "但从上名校的比例看，international没并什么优势 。似乎还不如Newport." are you
: sure? After-school program, how are you come up with its lacking behind at
: all? It always rank ahead of Newport.
: "
: A Drama Program is offered after school, producing about two plays a year.
: Jubilee Sports began working at the school in 2012, providing sporting
: opportunities to middle schoolers. The PE department also traditionally
: conducts after school sports for middle schoolers four times a year;
: ultimate frisbee, badminton, volleyball, and track and field. IS does not
: offer high school sports. High schoolers may play sports at their home
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i******r
发帖数: 1175 | 38 你说international 比Newport差（＂似乎还不如Newport"), 总得有点证据吧，不然
不就是胡咧咧，扯蛋吗？让你backup 你的论断就是抬扛了？那你贴这几个意思？忽悠
人？我可听说的
牛校比例比Newport强几倍。
另外比如你说的usnews 排名，不是坑人吗？Sammamish Sr. 这种地方老中去合适不？
56成上大学的地方，不是贫困，你送子女去？上次Bellevue 改划，哪个不是躲瘟神似
的？
“ 这可能是因为他们的学生没多少课外活动的机会。"也是你说的，也基本是啥扯吧，
你倒是找点东西backup 一下。
另外你提出的，搬进搬出的，从9800456的学区（比如公寓）搬别地的多了，和学区相
关不？学校在搬家行为里只是一部分有问题不？
【在 P*******5 的大作中提到】
: 碰上个爱抬杠的主...
:
: you
: at
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t********s
发帖数: 450 | 39 这次活动差不多到此结束了，谢谢大家参与！
很多回文已经mark，并发了包子。
这次活动没有达到预期效果，没有家长切身做介绍。
惭愧！下次加油。
（以前有家长组织的私校介绍就很好。）
【在 t********s 的大作中提到】
: 大家成天问学校，查排名，我看还是家长的切身评价最权威。
: 排名受排名的标准和学校参加的考试影响，较片面。
: 还是请在校学生或毕业学生的家长给大家讲讲吧。
: 根据信息量的多少决定伪币奖励，10-100伪币。预算1000伪币。
: 先从几所大家经常问的中学起。
: Interlake High
: Bellevue High
: Newport High
: Sammamish Senior High
: Skyline High
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