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发帖数: 9531 | 1 http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/gop-campaigns-rnc-debates
Republican presidential campaigns are planning to gather in Washington, D.C.
, on Sunday evening to plot how to alter their party’s messy debate process
— and how to remove power from the hands of the Republican National
Committee.
Not invited to the meeting: Anyone from the RNC, which many candidates have
openly criticized in the hours since Wednesday’s CNBC debate in Boulder,
Colorado — a chaotic, disorganized affair that was widely panned by
political observers.
On Thursday, many of the campaigns told POLITICO that the RNC, which has
taken a greater role in the 2016 debate process than in previous election
cycles, had failed to take their concerns into account. It was time, top
aides to at least half a dozen of the candidates agreed, to begin discussing
among themselves how the next debates should be structured and not leave it
up to the RNC and television networks.
The gathering is being organized by advisers to the campaigns of Donald
Trump, Ben Carson, Bobby Jindal and Lindsey Graham, according to multiple
sources involved in the planning. Others who are expected to attend,
organizers say, are representatives for Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee, Rand
Paul, Marco Rubio and Rick Santorum. The planners are also reaching out to
other Republican candidates.
Spokespersons for the RNC did not immediately respond to a request for
comment.
“I think the campaigns have a number of concerns and they have a right to
talk about that amongst themselves,” said Christian Ferry, Graham’s
campaign manager. The objective, Ferry said, was to “find out what works
best for us as a group.”
Figuring that out could be contentious as each campaign has a number of
different complaints about the process. Some — such as Bush and Paul —
have griped about unequal speaking time. Others have complained bitterly
about how polling is used to determine who qualifies for the prime-time and
undercard debates. Some have insisted on giving opening and closing
statements, despite the networks' desire to have the candidates spend as
much time as possible clashing with each other on stage.
Jindal, who polls better in Iowa than he does nationally, has argued that
criteria for determining who qualifies for debates should be based on early
state polling, not just national surveys.
“Our continuous complaint is candidate exclusion and the delusional debate
polling criteria. It's unacceptable,” said Gail Gitcho, a Jindal
spokeswoman. “Maybe this meeting will change that, maybe it won't. But we
aren't going to shut up about it.”
Graham’s campaign has argued that there should be two debates — with two
groups of seven or eight candidates selected randomly.
Carson said on Thursday that he had asked his staff to contact other
campaigns to propose format changes, without sharing specifically what he
thinks those changes should be.
“It’s not about me and gotcha questions. It’s about the American people
and whether they have the right to hear what we think,” Carson said before
an event at Colorado Christian University. “The whole format was just
craziness … You got to be really bad for the whole crowd to boo you."
"I think the families need to get together here, because these debates as
structured by the RNC are not helping the party," Carson campaign manager
Barry Bennett told the Washington Examiner. "There's not enough time to talk
about your plans, there's no presentation. It's just a slugfest. All we do
is change moderators. And the trendline is horrific. So I think there needs
to be wholesale change here."
Rubio, largely considered the standout of Wednesday's debate, said the
questions from CNBC's moderators "became irritating" as the night wore on.
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"I think the bigger frustration you saw is that all those candidates onstage
had prepared for a substantive debate. Everyone was ready to talk about
trade policy and the debt and tax policies," Rubio said on Fox News. "And we
're ready for that, everybody was. And then, you got questions that everyone
got, which were clearly designed to get us to fight against each other or
get us to say something embarrassing about us and then get us to react."
"The campaigns are not going to allow the networks to control this process,"
Huckabee told Fox Business host Lou Dobbs on Thursday night.
Trump, meanwhile, has repeatedly demanded that the debates last no longer
than two hours. On Wednesday night, he even boasted of muscling CNBC into
changing the format for the third debate. "Everybody said it was going to be
three hours, three-and-a-half, including them, and in about two minutes, I
renegotiated it so we can get the hell out of here," he said. "Not bad."
Sources at Fox Business Network, the hosts of the next GOP debate on Nov. 10
, said that as of Thursday afternoon, they hadn't heard from any campaigns
or the RNC about their debate format, but that they weren't concerned. They
pointed to positive reviews of the first GOP debate, hosted by Fox News, and
noted that though it's Fox Business' first debate, viewers and the
candidates can expect the same results next month with moderators Maria
Bartiromo and Neil Cavuto.
Hadas Gold and Eliza Collins contributed to this report. | r****p
发帖数: 480 | 2 这个是Carson挑的头？不知道最终会不会有结果 | b**********s
发帖数: 9531 | 3 没说谁挑的头，不过trump可能性最大。因为要组织这个，只有trump有可能。他办过电
视节目，知道一系列流程。
过去几次RNC搞的，显然被主流媒体耍了。而且RNC偏袒布什。这次他们没有邀请布什。 | r****p
发帖数: 480 | 4 看这个，这次是Carson反应最激烈，他的一个丑闻被揭露，估计很不爽。Trump其实没
啥损失，破产那个问了一百遍了
GOPers plot debate revolt against RNC
http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/29/media/gop-debate-revolt/index.h
【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】
: 没说谁挑的头，不过trump可能性最大。因为要组织这个，只有trump有可能。他办过电
: 视节目，知道一系列流程。
: 过去几次RNC搞的，显然被主流媒体耍了。而且RNC偏袒布什。这次他们没有邀请布什。
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发帖数: 3556 | 5 Carson 最先提出这个想法的。不过我估计不会有结果，因为各方有不同想法。
【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】
: 没说谁挑的头，不过trump可能性最大。因为要组织这个，只有trump有可能。他办过电
: 视节目，知道一系列流程。
: 过去几次RNC搞的，显然被主流媒体耍了。而且RNC偏袒布什。这次他们没有邀请布什。
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发帖数: 480 | 6 同觉得，carson希望变成presentation形式，几个poll低的希望随机抽取，不按poll决
定是不是上主会场,不太可能有结果。这个事分明是不把RNC放在眼里，个人认为不是很
明智的move.
【在 i**t 的大作中提到】
: Carson 最先提出这个想法的。不过我估计不会有结果，因为各方有不同想法。
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