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发帖数: 29853 | 1 你说AA不是大问题，现在又追加说这美国就没啥大问题。这都是个人观点，没啥对错，
因为判断问题是大是小本来就很主观。
至于你说的别的提升华人地位的方法，都是好建议，都值得去做。但我想说这和反AA一
点矛盾没有，可以并行啊。
AA问题是大是小，我就列事实好了，这下应该没人说是忽悠吧。
* 在1976年和1978年之间，哈佛新生班级里亚裔的比例从3.6%增加到了6.5%，这个和大
规模 增加的亚裔申请率重合。
* 不顾亚裔申请增加这个事实，哈佛大学随即提高了亚裔学生的录取标准。
* 在1983年，一个在哈佛招生办公室工作过的本科生写了个报告“不可能的录取”。
调 查了25个大学，发现，尽管亚裔对哈佛和其他大学的申请大幅增加， 亚裔的录取数
目 并几乎完全没有增加。
再来一点研究结果，这是密大AA被彻底废除之前。
The University of Michigan awarded a very large degree of preference in
undergraduate
admissions to blacks over whites and Asians with the sam... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29853 | 2 乌龟缩头了。俺来列举事实打脸。这是密大禁止AA之前本科生录取的数据研究。
楼主你丫说说，是你的所谓“所有”之类的词有感染力，还是下面这个针对历年录取数
据的分析有说服力？
In every year:
Black admittees had substantially lower SAT scores, ACT scores, and high
school GPAs compared to Asians and whites.
The range of Hispanic admittees’ test scores (SATs and ACTs) and high
school GPAs fell between those for blacks and those for Asians and whites.
Asian admittees had higher median test scores (SATs and ACTs) compared to
whites, but white admittees had higher high school GPAs.
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发帖数: 34 | 3 We quote only 370 words from STANFORD MAGAZINE:
THE CASE AGAINST RACE BASED AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
By David Sacks & Peter Thiel
Over the past quarter of a century, Stanford has been discriminating in
favor of racial minorities in admissions, hiring, tenure, contracting and
financial aid. But only recently has the University been forced to rethink
these policies in the face of an emerging public debate over affirmative
action.
We are beginning to see why. Originally conceived as a means to redress
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发帖数: 29853 | 4 帮你加点事实好了，我闲的无聊又在听录音。
http://apps.oyez.org/player/#/roberts6/oral_argument_audio/2402
Samuel A. Alito, Jr.
Now, that's certainly important, but to come back to my first question, is
there anything to suggest that the top 10 percent students are less likely
to enroll in ROTC or, when they do, they're not as good as the -- as the
holistic admittees?
这段的背景是啥？当时的律师是obama派来的。他说，军队的经验表明，多样化超级重
要。而AA是保证多样话的必要条件，这个在以前的案子里就已经证明了。
Alito是内敛的保守派大法官，他攻击的点是，头十趴的学生不大愿意参军吗？还是他
们不够好？你有证据吗？除非你有证据，头十趴的学生不大愿意参军，你才能在... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29853 | 5 摘自上贴中的链接1
In 2005, a male Michigan resident with no parent ties to UM and with the
same test scores and grades as the average black admittee would have the
following chances of admission:
a 43 percent chance if black,
a 28 percent chance if Hispanic,
a 0 percent chance if Asian, and
a 1 percent chance if white. |
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发帖数: 29853 | 6 http://www.educationdive.com/news/u-of-michigan-raises-freshman
The strategy, led by a new enrollment manager, includes working to increase
yield by making personal calls to admittees, increasing student aid and
calling it a tuition scholarship, cutting the size of the freshman class,
and choosing not to admit anyone off the waiting list.
班上还有那位说um取消AA之后亚裔没增加的？
屁股决定脑袋，可以，但是屁股没决定嘴巴吧。 |
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发帖数: 52743 | 7 admission regardless of whether the admittee needs (financial aid) |
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