b*****k
发帖数: 1110 | 1 莫名其妙收到 collector电话，说今天收到usbank的要求。
问了debt collector，他们并不知道有没有report这个
请问今天还钱，那这个欠款会不会出现在credit report上啊？
顺便提醒 usbank 的卡千万不要碰，一直设置的autopay， 账户里面balance也一直是0
没有收到任何信件，电话，email的前提下， 奇奇怪怪就成了讨债公司要钱的对象了。 |
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q*********5
发帖数: 148 | 2 我因急着要给我妈延期，而延期除了出示回去的机票，也没什么好出示的，我就必须马
上订机票。代理说，单程票不接受credit card，只接受debt card和现金，还要卡背后
面三位数。我担心的是这三位数告诉他们后，他们会不会以后有可能会把我里面的钱全
划走啊，毕竟我从不知道他们的底细，有知道的，快告诉我啊，我这几天忙我妈延期的
事，头都大了。 |
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l******y
发帖数: 204 | 3 大约3年前，忘了，好象是在网上买完什么东西，蹦出来的广告里有免费书的广告，随
便选了两本（一本小说，一本地图）。后来寄到了，也就扔那儿没管
最近突然收到debt collector信，说我欠一般多刀，真是无耻啊
就算为我当时无知埋单，也不能这么夸张啊
再说当时明明就是说免费的，当然谁知道芝麻大的字没看清楚，有陷阱也有可能
求建议！谢谢！
尤其有类似经历的 |
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l******6
发帖数: 5698 | 4 老牌银行还是牛B，这种MARKET居然还有能力卖BONDS WITHOUT GOVERNMENT BACKING。
要不是因为C业大根深又曾经是银行业巨头，打死也卖不出去这种BONDS。
Citigroup to Sell Debt Without Government Backing (Update2)
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By John Detrixhe and Caroline Salas
May 15 (Bloomberg) -- Citigroup Inc. plans to sell $2 billion of 10-year
notes in its first benchmark offering without a U.S. government guarantee
since August, according to a person familiar with the transaction.
The notes, to be sold as soon as today, may price to yield about 5 |
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b********t
发帖数: 8181 | 5 希腊倒了就倒了， so what?
加州debt default的威力比这些小国大多了。 法英德美default暂时不可能。 |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 6
Printing money to pay debt is default, so US is indeed defaulting now. |
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I**N
发帖数: 102 | 8 啥叫债多了不愁？
Feb. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner said the U.S.
is in no danger of losing its Aaa debt rating even though the Obama
administration has predicted a $1.6 trillion budget deficit in 2010.
“Absolutely not,” Geithner said, when asked in an ABC News interview
broadcast today whether a downgrade is a concern. “That will never happen
to this country.”
Geithner said investors around the world turn to U.S. Treasury securities
and dollar-denominated assets whenever they |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 9 When they promise sth like this it's usually the opposite that happens.
13Ts debt (and growing) + 50Ts welfare liability (growing as well) = FFF |
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g*****u
发帖数: 14294 | 11 不能guarantee他国debt,但是给点应急资金周转一下也不行吗？
sovereign state怎么个default法？
把他全国百姓的金戒指都摘下来顶债，还是可以免费吃住旅游10年？ |
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g8
发帖数: 3784 | 12 Spain's Debt Rating Is Downgraded by S&P |
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g8
发帖数: 3784 | 13 US Federal Reserve Says Will Buy Treasurys with Maturing Mortgage Debt |
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W*****e
发帖数: 7759 | 14 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fed-Citing-Slowdown-to-Buy-US-nytimes-2936632095.html?x=0&.v=1
WASHINGTON — Acknowledging that the recovery has slowed, the Federal
Reserve on Tuesday announced that it would use the proceeds from its huge
mortgage-bond portfolio to buy long-term Treasury securities.
By buying government debt, the Fed is taking an unmistakable step to
maintain the large amount of money that it pumped into the economy, starting
in 2007, to prop up the financial and housing markets.
T |
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a**u
发帖数: 7128 | 15 No need for China anymore, I will buy all the debt myself.
That is the last insult you can give to the dollar. |
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g****u
发帖数: 695 | 17 国会不是正在讨论 raise debt ceiling 呢么？
不用担心，这个一定会通过的。 |
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c*****n
发帖数: 1539 | 19 有点糊涂。debt ceiling不是已经被raise了么？周四大涨不就是因为这个消息？难道
我记错了？ |
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d***s
发帖数: 854 | 20 如果debt ceiling未来三个月成为题材
是不是要美元暴跌
银子暴涨呀？ |
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o**y
发帖数: 3065 | 21 US will raise the debt ceiling, there is no doubt of that. No president
wants to put the collapse of dollar on his responsibility, they will just
try whatever they can to postpone the incoming currency crisis. The later
the crisis comes, the worse the situation will be. |
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g8
发帖数: 3784 | 22 Obama: If Debt Limit Not Raised, Financial Crisis Possible |
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c******a
发帖数: 158 | 23 Fitch Ratings said on Tuesday that it would regard both a Greece sovereign
debt swap and a rollover of maturities, even a voluntary one, as a default.
Both a sovereign bond exchange and a voluntary rollover would be events
considered as a default, said Andrew Colquhoun, head of Asia-Pacific
sovereign ratings with Fitch at a conference.
A month ago Fitch downgraded Greece's credit rating three notches to "B+"
and warned it could cut the rating further into junk territory. At the time,
the rating... 阅读全帖 |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 24 【 以下文字转载自 Investment 讨论区 】
发信人: NeverLearn (24K golden bear), 信区: Investment
标 题: Government Debt and You
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jul 1 22:06:39 2011, 美东) |
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e**s
发帖数: 4638 | 25 publicly 羞辱巴马，然后让民主党独自承担 increase debt ceiling 的一切后果
脱裤子放p ~~~~~~~~~lol |
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c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 26 转了一圈，P事儿没解决，又回到了原点 - 按既定方针继续透支。。。
什么民意、民主，终究就是寡头们掩人耳目的玩戏。
The top Senate Democrat commended his Republican counterpart for proposing a
plan to ensure the country's debt ceiling is increased in case Congress
fails to reach agreement on a major deficit-reduction package before an Aug.
2 deadline.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) said Wednesday that while he
was still reviewing the details of Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's plan,
he was glad the Kentuckian had come forward with it.
"I... 阅读全帖 |
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u********e
发帖数: 4950 | 27 debt ceiling 如果解决了是不是要全仓long, all in 了？ |
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s*k
发帖数: 2941 | 28 the market shall plunge? All in all, the debt is still there, right? Money
printing business has to continue. |
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D**C
发帖数: 6754 | 29 that's not the problem
everybody knows it will get passed.
problems is
EU debt |
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c********t
发帖数: 5706 | 30 上午涨是希腊，下午涨是debt ceiling budget 快通过了。
这还只是快通过，一旦通过了，银行股票还要涨吧，感觉股市会创新高。
欧洲俺就不知道了。 |
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j******m
发帖数: 3259 | 31 我一直觉得8月2号左右可能是个比较重要的时间点，不太看好之后。。。
等到debt ceiling 消息准确出来的时候，黄花菜都凉了，咔咔咔 :) |
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v********e
发帖数: 378 | 32 I cashed out already. do not want to bet one way or the other. I think the
debt limit will be increased under the fall back plan - i.e., a mediocre
plan. The market will initially welcome the news to go up. and the next day
it will crash. |
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w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 33 要是debt不通过，股市就不是上下100点的事了。
不亚于2008卷土重来了。 |
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w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 35 布什政府就是没胆子default,闹成现在这样的，那以后呢？
以后的debt只能越来越高，只能每年都因为胆量不足而只能选择涨下去了？
i doubt....
你如果问我怎么看，我会说我不知道，两个结局的可能性的概率在我眼里一半一半。 |
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w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 36 14块钱的东西cut1块钱，还剩13块，后面跟着12个0.
debt哪那么容易cut掉。 |
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w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 37 随着时间的推移，debt increase会变得越来越难，后果越来越糟。
double dip可能短期是大家都不想看到，但长痛不如短痛，
3年以后，仍是好汉一枚。
可要是这么惯养下去，3年以后，肯定还在increase. |
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w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 38 希腊是找外援，美国这是自己内部的事， 找外援牵扯到整个欧盟的意见，以荣俱荣，
一损俱损，而美国这是自己搞自己。
怎么能放一起相提并论呢？就为了说明你上次判断对了，所以这次也会对？ 呼唤逻辑！
谁也没说debt increase不好，但今年如果行情涨到20万亿上限，明年肯定还不起吧，
明天就涨到30万亿，后年呢？ |
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m*****i
发帖数: 4342 | 39 Exactaly
三方就是为了对他们各自的利益集团讨价还价,有个交代, 还有什么?
Republican 要Cut Spending就是一个Joke。
Bush的时候，他们控制二院，Debt Celling 不是一次又一次的被 raise without
spending cut.
者在讨价还价而已。抛开这3个决策方谈其他的没用。 |
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h****n
发帖数: 3447 | 40 换个思路就容易理解了。
首先现在就还不起，增加不增加都是还不起。不是说default了就还的起了。怎样都是
还不起，因此本来就没有以是否还得起作为增不增加debt ceiling的目标。
解决的方法之一，货币贬值就可以了。现在这15trillion和几十年后几百trillion价值
是一样的。不用担心，到时候美国随便卖个几吨黄金或者开放一个内陆油田就搞定了。
辑！ |
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h****n
发帖数: 3447 | 41 你想得太长远了。
方法就是用来解决当前问题的。未来who knows？ who cares?
increase debt ceiling就能解决当前的问题，完全符合执政和参政的人的利益。因此
这个结果就会发生。不要想太多了。 |
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h****n
发帖数: 3447 | 42 很对呀。
但是我不会因为和我相关（增税），就希望不增加debt ceiling limit，就认为他们会
default,然后找很多理由劝说自己有default的可能呀。 |
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m*****i
发帖数: 4342 | 43 大家想想看
现在的Debt Celling焦点是共和党不允许加税。
而不加税的收益者主要是谁？
如果Defualt了，股市掉了，这些人答应吗? |
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 44 debt ceiling will be increased and there is no uncertainty around that
whatsoever. lying at the center of the negotiation is not the ceiling. it is
how much spendng cuts vs how much revenue increase. US notes may still get
downgraded even if the ceiling raise is secured. |
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s*k
发帖数: 2941 | 45 I think debt ceiling is more of a political play rather than serious
business. Every crook on the stage wants to flex its muscle. It is a kind of
dirty business. |
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w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 46 debt是非常severe problem, 能让美国的gdp一夜之间倒退1%。
那还是15年前呢，现在通货膨胀了，2%是小菜
of |
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s*k
发帖数: 2941 | 47 I even saw the report that it is legitimate (here mean constitutional) for
the Whitehouse to run by ignoring the debt ceiling. Only four nations on
this planet have this dirty business. |
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w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 48 别的你们都不用管，就看准大盘这一条，其余的全按这个做参照物。
default后，大盘会跌到8000到6000左右，基本打到底了。 不会一天跌完，也是每天
500的速率跌下去，连跌两礼拜小case。
以这个为基准，中国啊，欧盟啊， 小日本啊，都不用琢磨啦，全是和老美国债绑一条
线上的，美国default了，中日就得比着跳海了，看谁跳得深。
还有一个问题，我为什么希望default，一是老美需要这一鞭子来励志，重振国家士气
，但另一个才是和你们息息相关的，都够傻，一旦大盘跌到6000，苹果就是70，百度就
是7块钱的白菜价（split以后），这种常胜将军，多好的捞底机会，买个1万股百度，
就做捂帮老板娘了，等后年就可以终身退休吧，而且你本来在default一开始做空都来
得及, 两面抽mm。
前些天,WALstudio嚷嚷了半天说要找那种漏网之鱼，那意思就是再来一次2008他就买一
捆低价股，捂着做价值投资了，现在不正是大好良机吗。
现在的高价股，对你们都有啥好处呀，就那萎缩相，买得起苹果还是买得起google？
一个个地，竟给别人唱戏。debit如果真increase了，肯定要削减支出... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****p
发帖数: 190 | 49 短期：dollar走低，黄金上涨，rating agency评级下滑，US liquidity market repo
haircut上升，短期资本市场出现问题。
长期：政府funding更难，国债利率上涨，政府interest payments上涨，deficit上升,
debt上升，recovery延缓。 |
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g********5
发帖数: 10335 | 50 1. $4 billion-plus a day will come out of the economy.
2. Government and civilian military workers will be laid off temporarily.
That will result in penalties for late payment, to be paid by taxpayers.
3. Social security payments will be delayed.
4. No one knows how bad the reaction will be, but Walker is confident it
will be negative for the stock and bond markets and the economy.
5. Interest rates will rise. For every 1% rise in interest rates, taxpayers
will be on the hook for an additional $... 阅读全帖 |
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