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m********t
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
几年前我是一个笃信星座的人,跟陌生人见面,头两句话里就会问:你是什么星座的?
找男朋友也是非水相星座的不考虑。直到有一天接触Forer Effect (Barnum Effect),
才重新审视我信奉了颇久的星相。以下是转自wiki的内容:
Forer's demonstration
In 1948, psychologist Bertram R. Forer gave a personality test to his
students, and then gave them a personality analysis supposedly based on the
test's results. He invited each of them to rate the analysis on a scale of 0
(very poor) to 5 (excellent) as it applied to themselves: the average was 4
.26. He then revealed that each student had been given the
y******g
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来自主题: Psychology版 - [合集] Forer Effect和星座学说
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mochascent (Life Is Beautiful) 于 (Tue Dec 5 23:31:49 2006) 提到:
几年前我是一个笃信星座的人,跟陌生人见面,头两句话里就会问:你是什么星座的?
找男朋友也是非水相星座的不考虑。直到有一天接触Forer Effect (Barnum Effect),
才重新审视我信奉了颇久的星相。以下是转自wiki的内容:
Forer's demonstration
In 1948, psychologist Bertram R. Forer gave a personality test to his
students, and then gave them a personality analysis supposedly based on the
test's results. He invited each of them to rate the analysis on a scale of 0
(very poor) to 5 (excelle
c***s
发帖数: 70028
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上图为姚家合照,如今英雄姚携炜已逝
广州消防战士姚携炜为救跳轨者而英勇牺牲,增城市公安、消防,新塘镇政府及当地街道等多个部门登门慰问其家人,一名政府官员递上慰问金,握着姚携炜父亲的手说:“恭喜你培养出这么优秀的儿子。”听到这话,姚携炜的父亲愣住了,半天没有说话。
相关新闻:消防员救助跳铁轨轻生男子 双双被动车撞死(组图)
家属不妨回敬恭喜
@魏什么妮:家属脾气真好。
@胖一点更帅:姚爸爸应该回敬一句:感谢领导八辈祖宗!
@梁燃:姚爸爸应该这么回答:希望你全家以后都培养成这么优秀。
A 批:讲话没经大脑
评:官员要学人话
@万庆涛:这位官员够没人性的,人家儿子去世,你还要“恭喜”他,反过来“恭喜”你一下试试!
@球比邓:匪夷所思啊~
@平衡_:说话之前没“过脑”,大脑的速度没跟上嘴巴的速度。
@凡尘往事:恶心死了!
@贵丽芙Gwyneth:“攞景”定系赠兴?!
@Irene_鱼:这是人话吗?
@QQ梁恒鑫:宁愿相信是官员太紧张用词不当……
@Forer巴黎梦:恭喜?学了几天的语文啊?用词明显不当!
B 评:官员要学人话
@客家人-赖远兴:官员的思维不改变,那套惯有的话语体系也不会变,这种... 阅读全帖
c****a
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广州消防战士姚携炜为救跳轨者而英勇牺牲,增城市公安、消防,新塘镇政府及当地街
道等多个部门登门慰问其家人,一名政府官员递上慰问金,握着姚携炜父亲的手说:“
恭喜你培养出这么优秀的儿子。”听到这话,姚携炜的父亲愣住了,半天没有说话。
上图为姚家合照,如今英雄姚携炜已逝
广州消防战士姚携炜为救跳轨者而英勇牺牲,增城市公安、消防,新塘镇政府及当地街
道等多个部门登门慰问其家人,一名政府官员递上慰问金,握着姚携炜父亲的手说:“
恭喜你培养出这么优秀的儿子。”听到这话,姚携炜的父亲愣住了,半天没有说话。
相关新闻:怕动车再出事故 消防员上铁轨抬轻生者被撞身亡(图)
家属不妨回敬恭喜
@魏什么妮:家属脾气真好。
@胖一点更帅:姚爸爸应该回敬一句:感谢领导八辈祖宗!
@梁燃:姚爸爸应该这么回答:希望你全家以后都培养成这么优秀。
A 批:讲话没经大脑
评:官员要学人话
@万庆涛:这位官员够没人性的,人家儿子去世,你还要“恭喜”他,反过来“恭喜”
你一下试试!
@球比邓:匪夷所思啊~
@平衡_:说话之前没“过脑”,大脑的速度没跟上嘴巴的速度。
@凡尘往事:恶心死了!
@贵丽芙Gwyneth:“攞景”定系... 阅读全帖
s*******c
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lilykang (伊一人) 于 (Tue Mar 5 09:24:34 2013, 美东) 提到:
3月5日晚间11点,护士唤醒我,说老公的血压在持续下降,很可能剩下的时间不多了。
我打电话让朋友把三个孩子带进来,和他们爸爸告别,让朋友帮忙照了最后一张全家福
。然后把孩子们送回去睡觉,其后就一直守在他身边。我和他说了很多很多话,和他说
我怎么爱上他的,和他说我对我们共同生活未来的展望,我摇他大声呼唤他,可是他都
没有反应,我一遍又一遍地亲他,和他说我舍不得舍不得啊,我知道他其实听得到,因
为期间他的血压有所回升。我一度以为奇迹出现,就更用力地抱他,更大声地说话。可
是生命的力量还是抵挡不住癌细胞的吞噬。他的血压一路滑落,最后凌晨近四时,他大
声喘了几口气,发出类似叹气的声音,眼角慢慢沁出一滴泪水。医疗监视器的警告声提
醒我,This is it。我的坚强的老公啊,我认识他以来从来没见他哭过,总算在他人生
的最后时刻,流下了一滴泪水。。
----谢谢大家给我这么多的祝福,我觉得祝福还是起作用了,... 阅读全帖
j***o
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大家知道我是民科,上次预测了千青难度指数级飙升,第五批出来你们就知道了,然后
捎带着预测著名AP尔康要海龟千青,几天以后,看下面的帖子
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发信人: erkang (摇头晃脑的小肥猪), 信区: Faculty
标 题: Re: 唉,难啊
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jan 4 14:01:07 2013, 美东)
不错了,我还一个Career都没有写。
文章也就是2 first author journal articles and 2 coauthored ones.
conference也不count,
teaching更是烂, 这次还退步了,
如果我哪天千青了,你们千万别奇怪呀。
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这回再给你们解释一下,很多人预测中国什么时候能赶超美国,有说10年的,比较少,
有50年以上的,也比较少,20,30年比较多,其实这是一个年龄暴露铁,根据我长达五
年的超复杂分析计算,得出结论:
你觉得中国N年赶上美国,这个N + 9就是你的年龄,这个公式适用范围是N <... 阅读全帖
c*********a
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( I meant to comment on your posts thus I even had myself registered for in
order to do so . )
People have style and personality difference.
Yet, it has nothing to do with the so called astrology sign.
Look up the Forer effect, like how a real PhD should handle pseudo-science.
1) He's not that into you and it has nothing to do with astrology signs.
Plus he's not manly enough to sit you down and explain to you again about
that fact.
2) Don't confuse flirt and loneliness with feelings.
If you rea
z****u
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来自主题: Comic版 - [合集] 最好的星座 (转载)
终于出现一个不信星座的了,跳出来支持一下
Forer Effect害死人啊 = =
M******n
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来自主题: Comic版 - [合集] 最好的星座 (转载)
forer effect是什么?
r******s
发帖数: 2155
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
should forward this to love and family.

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m********t
发帖数: 121
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
这种事情,勉强不得的。我以前相信星座的时候,查速配指数,从别人的星座判断别人
的性格,也蛮开心的:)
r******s
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
educating the publis is a good thing and doesnot equal mian qiang bie ren.
m********t
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
可能我怕一不小心成为愤青吧。我最想做的事情其实是让我的一个生物出身的朋友不要
相信亚当比夏娃少一根肋骨。
z****k
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
考虑Pygmalion effect的话,或许还是会有点意义的

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m********t
发帖数: 121
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
Good point!
r******s
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
don't respond. then you'll be fine.
I think it's a very good article.
Can't reason with religious people, that's for sure.
r******s
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
can u be more specific?
s*****t
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
what's wrong with astrology? why cant modern humans have some entertainment
in peace? astrology is just like religion, its own purpose and position in
society have long ago been transposed beyond what narrow-minded tunnel-
visioned science-crammed self-righteous modern humans can possibly imagine.

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r******s
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
What's wrong with astrology is that it is wrong.

entertainment
well, apparently only those self-deceiving narrow-minded visionless
common-senseless i-am-ignorant-but-i-am-happy people can appreciate.
k**m
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
Far less accurate than Chinese Ba Zi as far as I know.
Some people just worship anything from western world while abandoning own
valuable legacy.

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r******s
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说

What do you know? Care to share?
m********t
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
You know what, an ironic thing occurred to me is that the more I learn about
counseling psychology which is supposed to facilitate people's change,the
more I am aware that people are very resistant to change.
y******g
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
hehe,看星座的东西就像算命一样,看自己的星座确实有点像,但是看其他人的星座也
是差不多。不过,因为越来越多的人注意把自己的性格和星座相关起来,星座的对性格
的作用力就越来越大了,就好像在某种程度上变成了行为准则,人们都会不自觉地强化
自己喜欢的和自己星座符合的性格特点。

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k**m
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
I had an Internet friend studying Ba Zi. He often surprised me by his
accurate comments using Ba Zi.
This world is not purely material-based. There are some other factors
working, like space and time. For example, physics already proves the
connection of space and time, energy and materials.
My basic argument is that: the time of birth does contains some information.
Ba zi is so far the most systematic way to dig them out, but not yet
recognized scientifically.
r******s
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
Very true.
Influencing people is very difficult. You might wantt o start with
Robert Cialdini's work if interested.

about
r******s
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
this only happens if you choose to be influenced and be reminded of it
constantly.
r******s
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
I seriously doubt one case has enuf validity, let alone 'often' is
not good enuf. Random comments can be right from time to time,
but doesn't mean it has the power to predict.
这种东西的第一条要求是:信则灵。
因为你先入为主认为有道理,自然会去寻找支持的证据。
remember, whatever claim stands 50% chance to be correct.

I had an Internet friend studying Ba Zi. He often surprised me by his
accurate comments using Ba Zi.
This world is not purely material-based. There are some other factors
working, like space and time. For example, physics
y******g
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
有的影响是潜移默化的了。不一定是你不choose就不受影响哦。
r******s
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
嗯,从小我妈就叫我不要和女生辩论。^_^
y******g
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
。。。。。。
好像欧也没有很强词夺理吧。。。。。
r******s
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
^_^
t*******n
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
觉得这是一个对占星学理解的问题。
12个星座就能决定人生的复杂问题么,肯定不能。天宫图也不是万能的。同时间同地点
出生的人,长在不同环境中,能一样么?但用占星手段,结合个人历史和现状进行
counselling,explore personal potential,是有潜力的。
卡尔容格作过一些占星和archetype关系的研究,后来Rudhyar就此进一步发展出来
Humanistic Astrology,参见:
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/

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t*******g
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
生物出身,还会相信 这种事情,
不想做 科学的
t*******g
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
你是 男生。。。。。
呵呵
m********t
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来自主题: Psychology版 - Forer Effect和星座学说
是啊,后来转学神学了,也算是转的其所。
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