c*******t
发帖数: 144 | 1 I agree with you, this does seem to be the best way to do away
with him. :D
Don't think J.K.could kill him in book 7. The funeral would be
too awkward... with nobody really mourning... :S |
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f*****o
发帖数: 113 | 2 maybe she will just give an open ending...
like someone said before, it is too hard to use one book to tell all stories,
especially it seems next year Harry won't stay at school. JKR has to move
Harry around a lot, physicially. Just like book 5, there will be many places
Harry had to go and he had never been there before, so that will take time. I
think JKR will have a lot of trouble to tighten things up.
Not matter how the story ends, I just hope there is no more killing besides
Voldermont's ul |
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k*l
发帖数: 2574 | 3 Once read from a HP site. How can love be the most powerful weapon?
Maybe Harry can hug Voldy to death?
haha. |
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m******m
发帖数: 11847 | 4 ft
u want to see things going so easily? |
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m******m
发帖数: 11847 | 6 wild guess
but the part about harry may come ture |
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m******m
发帖数: 11847 | 7 不知道为什么
我在看结尾的时候对McGonagal产生了一丝怀疑 |
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m******m
发帖数: 11847 | 9 可能她对于harry和dumb去干啥push得有点急吧
而且看样子dumb死了之后她就take over了
当然之前一直很喜欢她 |
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EJ
发帖数: 23 | 10 【 以下文字转载自 Literature 讨论区 】
发信人: EJ (will update later), 信区: Literature
标 题: 可以讨论Harry Potter 6了吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 19 15:20:35 2005)
我已经忍不住了。要憋死了。哪位看完了讨论一下? 如果你没看就不要往下看这个贴了。
这个horcrux么明显是这本书中最重要的信息了，但是还是half blood prince起名，可见
Snape有多重要。我还是觉得他是好人。虽然看上去他下了unbreakable vow用unforgivab
le curse杀了Dumbledore.就是觉得他们是一起演戏的。里面有那么多fishy的地方，而且
dumbledore说他确定trust Snape说了不下一千遍。不可能JKRowling把她最喜欢的人物之
一描写成自己打自己耳光而死。这象是最大的plot twist了，让大家下本书中发现half b
lood prince还是好的。可怜他虽然会得到Lord Voldermont和Death Eater的信任，要 |
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i****l
发帖数: 579 | 11 I do think Rowling carefully planned her plots and books, she
even sort of mentioned Horcrux in her first book. |
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f*****o
发帖数: 113 | 12 yeah... i remember she said wormtail was in debt of Harry. But I don't think
he will turn to be good or brave man, maybe just accidentally let Harry know
how to destroy Voldemont.
A wild guess: remember his hand... maybe he will help Harry to open the locket
that no one can open, where Harry will find a Horcruxe... :P |
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d****i
发帖数: 397 | 13 yeah... but the truth about harry must die, dumbledore knew. however he didn
't know where were other horcruxes yah... |
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l******d
发帖数: 1633 | 14 剩下要猜的容器的其实只是杯子和tiara。locket已经确定是个容器，只是不知道去哪
儿了
运气成份的确很大，不过都有或多或少的铺垫吧
例如black介绍过他那个离开老魔头的弟弟
老邓带hp经历了tom的成长，而且提示另外的horcrux很可能来之别的house
感觉阿姨是故意让hp被强盗抓的，否则也不能从Bellatrix的紧张中猜到杯子的藏处
猜到tiara藏在学校更只是因为hp可以读lv的mind
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d****i
发帖数: 397 | 15 你说得没错。不过我前面的意思是老校长应该有个后备计划，考虑到snape成天在魔头
左右，万一没有办法及时向harry传递真相，岂不是所有计划都毁了。像dumbledore这
么周全的人没有想到这一层的确可疑。你想一个horcrux他都让3个人知道呢，harry‘
死’前也告诉longbottom确保至少有3人知道杀蛇计划。
感觉阿姨是故意让hp被强盗抓的， 那时一定的。不过设计得不太合理。如果一对多这
么没用的话，拿个wand划来划去有什么意思?拼人头算了。 |
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w******g
发帖数: 333 | 16 狂有同感，很多人最喜欢第四本但是我觉得第四本漏洞最多
这本也是，之前第六本的时候Dumbledore带着harry去山洞里找那个Horcrux费了多大的
劲啊，这本里面剩下最后几个好像就轻而易举的找到毁灭了。 |
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c****y
发帖数: 584 | 17 老邓有跟snape说过harry是最后一个horcrux. 这个看着象bug. 而且我也不理解为什么
就不能说, 其他人不行, snape怎么也不行了? |
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c****t
发帖数: 348 | 18 Snape是Voldermort最信任的干将之一。
如果连RAB都知道Horcrux的话，Snape没有理由不知道啊。 |
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m********y
发帖数: 3408 | 19 RAB知道是因为Krecher
LV没有告诉任何人关于Horcrux的事 |
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d****i
发帖数: 397 | 20 到这个时候，dumbledore对snape的人品不会再由怀疑了。不跟snape说的确是因为
snape经常在魔头左右，怕万一lv嗅出什么来，这个理由至少是dumbledore亲口说的。
但是事实上让harry知道更危险，虽然老dumbledore预言lv不愿意再尝试渗透harry的灵
魂，但是必要的时候弄一下没什么不可能的。最后lv还不是召唤了一把harry,让他自动
缴械免得伤害更多的无辜？
至于horcrux,虽然谈话里没有提到这个名词，但是idea都在里面了。如果snape出了什
么事的话，就凭他已经掌握的信息足够粉碎dumbledore的歼敌计划，因此完全没必要让
snape感觉dumbledore对他的信任尚不如一个毛头小孩。用人不疑，疑人不用。
本书极力把dumbledore塑造成一个运筹帷幄于千里之外的战略家，不过显然超出了
rowling阿姨的想象力范围。 |
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c****t
发帖数: 348 | 21 RAB的纸条里写着
I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as i can |
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d****i
发帖数: 397 | 22 这个我忘了，如果是的话不大make sense，除非black家族里面有人对horcrux很有研究
，他一下就猜到了。kreacher怎么可能知道那是什么？ |
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k***n
发帖数: 93 | 23 Sirius was only 22 when he was accused for betraying Harry's parents. RAB is
his younger brother and died before LV's doom. Probably RAB was only 17-18
around that time, and just finished Hogward school. It is very likely he got
this piece of information from his Black family, instead of figuring out
purely by himself.
There is no book in Hogwart's public library talking about horcrux, that's
why Tom Riddle has to ask around for the information.
in |
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k**x
发帖数: 2611 | 24 lv应该还是在书里找到的，那本the darkest art是AD后来收起来的
他问的是能不能多做几个Horcrux
根据JKR的访谈，lv过于嚣张的漏了点风，以为别人猜不出来
但RAB是猜了出来
is
18
got |
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d****i
发帖数: 397 | 25 还是信任他把。这个事情不能打草惊蛇，知道的人越少越好，校长认为只有harry可以
胜任，何况他和魔头还有某种灵魂上的联系，他开始不是认定另一个horcrux在学校，
其他两个都不信吗？而且harry跟个福星似的，别人没有他的运气：） |
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c*******c
发帖数: 170 | 26 好像6里面说的正确顺序就是先杀horcrux，然后杀他才行。至于为什么非这样得问作者
了。 |
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n****i
发帖数: 26 | 27 Volemore's soul is not a whole piece anymore, and Harry's is pure and a
whole piece. So in book 5, when Voldemore try to enter Harry's head and
control him, he was in extremely pain. And he will not do it anymore,
mentioned somewhere in book 6 or 7.
No, He did not know it, otherwise, he won't try to kill Harry. Because when
he kill Harry, that horcrux is destroyed at the same time. |
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w******g
发帖数: 333 | 28
那也太煽情了吧。我觉得即使snape有鬼魂碰到harry的话，肯定还是以前那样的态度，
嘲讽侮辱加刁难。snape性格如此，永远把冷漠和仇恨放在脸上，把爱和关心放在心里
最隐蔽的地方。
没办法啦，篇幅不够了，这个horcrux只好三言两语就毁掉了。如果想要逻辑更完善一
点，罗琳肯定是有这个办法的，不过那一定需要多花上百页，新出现若干人若干魔法物
品。
我早就放弃从逻辑上考证了。就像LV大人有时候聪明绝顶有时候智商低下这种事情发生
太平常了。其实看书乐趣不光在于看罗琳如何圆场，还因为那些角色都熟悉的像身边的
人一样，所以对他们都有感情了，想要追随下去。
同意你的说法，LV不是有意的，而且LV貌似不知情。
这个就更不要追究了。
主线她一定先心里有数。尤其是几个重点人物，sirius,snape,dumbledore他们担负着
什么样的使命我想她最开始就计划好了。但是其他人物和具体情节，应该是边想边写的。 |
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x*********6
发帖数: 24 | 29 The snake did not die when TOM placed the horcrux.
Tom picked the hidden room because it was on the way to headmaster office.
He did not want to take a detour( to the chamber) because he wanted to
avoice suspicision. |
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c****t
发帖数: 348 | 30 horcrux魂器 -比较统一的翻译，言简意赅。
muggle麻瓜 -可爱，意思也符合。
Mudblood泥巴种 -同上
Squib哑炮 -这个是纯意译吧，也还凑合。
Auror傲罗 -没把那种酷劲翻出来。如果叫“光战士”什么的又太恶俗。怎么翻呢？
patronus守护神 -“神”字是不是太过了？但是没想出别的译法。
Boggart剥壳鬼 -取"reveal your inner fear"的意思
pensieve冥想盆 -penser+sieve就是冥想盆了
voldemort伏地魔 -在法语里vol de mort有escaping death或stealing from death的
意思。但“伏地魔”只是让人觉得恐怖和丑陋，像个中等水平的怪物。
death-eater食死徒 -这个很不好翻，其实death-eaters并不“食死”。我觉得“嗜死
徒”不错。
dementor摄魂怪 -叫“摄魂幽灵”更形象一些
occlumency一忘皆空 -我觉得叫“锁念术”
Quidditch魁地奇
Fudge夫子 -这个名字太搞笑了吧，加上Cornelius岂不是成了“孔夫子”？
howle |
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E******n
发帖数: 641 | 31 IMHO,
for the first question, the soul would not be harmed as a whole, but it
doesn't guarantee that the soul could remain in human world and not go on.
LV could use the remaining part of the soul in horcruxes to tie himself to
this world even without the physical form.
as for the second question, Grindelwald did stun Gregorovitch when he was
caught stealing the wand, so he was the true owner of the wand. While the elder
wand could help you win, it's not invincible as rumor says. Dumbledore
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c******j
发帖数: 87 | 32 "杀死一个人，不会毁坏他的灵魂" --这个没错啊
"死后直接寻找肉身复活就好" -- 这个不容易吧，要不那么多肉身死了但灵魂还在的
Wizard，为什么不去寻找肉身复活呢？Wizard世界也有Rule啊
制造Horcrux就是为了要复活肉身吧。
a |
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x*********6
发帖数: 24 | 33 Cannot agree with you. Just a few examples:
Snape: what he did is good for HP. I do not think HP will be better off in a
world that everybody favors him.
Umbridge: Don't you think there are many of this kind in real world?
Malfoy: the bright side (non-dark side) does not descriminate a child for
his family background.
HP: he was carrying LV's horcrux, of course there will be dark side on him.
Remember what sirius said in the movie5: everybody has his dark side. it is
the choice that make us diff |
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n**********8
发帖数: 113 | 34 Because, most of us own one of his Horcruxes |
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h*****x
发帖数: 2 | 35 【 以下文字转载自 NewJersey 讨论区 】
发信人: Horcrux (Human form), 信区: NewJersey
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