d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 1 真心伤不起阿。
本想碎叫前，在grind一下nl100，都满园。
顺便想rail一下nl200，见到哥的几个死对头reg都在玩，原来他们平时都是在等nl200
的时候随便开几桌nl100跟哥在玩阿。
一时ego上来，见到有人sit out赶紧坐上4桌跟他们切磋切磋。结果没打几手几十个bb
花的一下，没了。马上的，full house over full house，又几十个bb，花的一下，没
了。再接着，3way raised flop 3s4s5d，哥拿66 c／raise original raiser, 对方
cbet／shove，哥无奈接下，对手亮出67，@％！￥＃％@＃，又是一个buyin，花的一下
，哎，45分钟，down 2.5个buying，只能郁闷的去碎叫了。
mm老湿，是不是你，昨又过来捕鱼了。 |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 2 40K hand for NL200
VPIP20% PRFRAISE 12%(TOO LOW)
AGGRESSIVE FACTOR 2.8
3 BET 8-9
WINING 8BB/100 |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 3 NL100: $0.5 big blind, full-buy-in has 200 big blinds, so it is $100
same as NL200 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 NL200比NL100赢钱快... en..打得越大赢得越快... |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 5 no sht, no way. my goal is play NL100 full in 2 months(I still play half
NL50 and half NL100 now). hope I can get the NL200 ealier next year. |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 6 Around 7K. Not enough for NL200 but still want to test water. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 BSO 般可肉雄厚啊。 俺NL 200输2.5个buyin 就要降级NL 25了。。。。
nl200
bb
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 9 今年6月和7月，我都是前两周赢利16K，然后第三周输掉2/3左右，第四周休息。
按比例，NL200如果run的好，可不可以一个半月赢利16K这样？ |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 10 那难了，我每天的手数很少，没有任何RB，bonus。。
我NL600赢利迅速的原因就在于我只找fish打，一桌没有鱼的话我就不进，当然输钱的
时候我见人就打，什么都不管了。看来在NL200也要如此才能更有效率赚钱。 |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 11 40K hand for NL200
VPIP20% PRFRAISE 12%(TOO LOW)
AGGRESSIVE FACTOR 2.8
3 BET 8-9
WINING 8BB/100 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 12 I played some NL200 first time last Saturday because I saw NL100 was 4 table
reg infested, but there were only 5 4-table reg at NL200. Granted the game was soft and I did well (couple of buy-ins up after 1k hands, but means nothing without sample size). When I looked at NL200 other times, I realized that I have notes on most of the NL200 4 table reg anyway. I guess some reg jumps between NL100 and NL200. I am going to do the same, jumping between them depending on the games. I am still going to ... 阅读全帖 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 13 我没有拿onine nl200和live nl200比。我前面举的bovada和ps的例子，都不是拿onine
nl200和live nl200比。popo到bovada应该比在WPN的edge增大了很多，为什么最后打
不下去要quit了？
假设按你说的，liveNL200水平等于onlineNL10.
那么本版几个打liveNL200的hourly rate是$35/hour,剔除小费和live抽水高的因素，
（live抽水10%，cap$4,online 5% cap $3.)相当于20BB/hour。
live 25-30hand/hour,online 100-120hand/hour.
也就是live的20BB/hour相当于online的80BB/hour。你现在打online 10NL能打到80BB/
hour吗？如果你能够做到，可以开6台，挣$48/hour，一天打$400，一个月$12000。你
打NL600能挣到这个数吗？为什么那么多online reg不去这么搞，偏偏去打NL200，
NL600，一个月才挣小几千？既然online 10NL edge有那么大，难道... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 14 i never played NL100+ (and i'm a loser at NL100), but i do watch some NL200+
games on the side.
i tend to agree that NL100 may indeed have more decent players than NL200,
or the major portion of NL100 players or average skill level are tougher/
higher. NL200 looks to me like having two extreme types of players, those
grind and those gamble. if you have a decent skill, i won't be surprised
that you can make more in NL200.
personal
more |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 15 Your swing largely depends on the style you play. You may keep certain
buyin at NL 100 (like 50-100), and take certain buy in to take shot at NL
200.(10-15 should be enough). If you hit a downswing, lost this 10-15 buyin
, just move back to NL100. NL 200 is pretty soft , I do not think you have
any problem to beat it. Actually, I think most regs in NL 400 are quite
mediocre, most of them have clear weakness. Most of them still play own card
.
table
game was soft and I did well (couple of buy... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 16 Yourdoom's case is over-dated stuff. I do not think he can make 5BB/100 at
these days.
4 tables on NL200 generally means you are amateur.
But on Zoom table, if you can play NL200 with 4BB/100. It is a piece of cake
to win 200K per year. But I highly doubt that many players can win 4BB/100
in NL200 quoted from your statement.
Plus there are no ppl in zoom game on NL1000 games, it should tell us
everything, there are almost no one can beat that game with 3BB/100. I may
exaggerate.
NL200. |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 17 I am still lost 2 buy-in for the day.
I tried to give a shot at @ NL200 twice and I got my ass kicked so bad.
The gap between NL100 and NL200 is huge!
Next time I tried NL200, I will have to at least wait for another 2 years
and at least have 20k bankroll. Man those guys are tough. A lot of LAG and
playing very tricky. |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 18 上个月遭遇重大down swing，在第一周输了9 buyin。然后就减少了打牌的手数，花比
较多的时间看录像分析自己的手牌之类的。到现在坑还没有填上。
周末有时候早晨没什么人的时候我会NL100/NL200混着打，但是ACR上NL100和NL200基本
就是同一批人在打，所以也算不上升级吧。
现在感觉技术方面问题不是太大，但是打NL200还不能把钱当筹码。所以打不出A game。
win |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 19 preflop aggression是有差别，NL600更厉害一点。但最大的区别是post flop 技术，
NL600的hand reading和unpredictable都远超NL200.
因为NL600是merge里最高的level，所以大多reg的水平很高，不管他们以前是NL1000,
还是NL2000的。外加carbon网络现在和sportsbook网络合并，总体来说，carbon reg水
平更高。但同时，会有很多赌徒来NL600送钱。因为今年输了不少本金，我现在主打
NL50--NL200,看到fish在，会进NL600玩一下。
以我对你的了解，你匿名桌玩NL1000我觉得应该没有问题，你输一点应该是正常的
variance.但有一点，你做大bluff的比例不能象在NL200那样高，否则你在NL1000没法
生存。
了. |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 20 NL200( online 1/2)
66 bet 7$ bf flop one loose guy called on SB, flop is 3d4h5d, he check, I
bet 14$, he check raise to 28$, I call turn is 2d, he bet 72$, will he
had flush here?
NL200(1/2 online)
KK, two limper I bet 13$, one guy called, flop J53 two clubs, he check, I
bet 28$(pot), he called( no image ) turn is 7h( no flush), he check , I bet
70$, he think a while and all in 80$ more!. |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 21 我试水的时候都是带min buyin的， 如果我试水NL200，我到时候估计带40 buyin搞三次，总共也就$240, 不行就降级。
其实现在偶尔也玩NL200，用SS strategy， 只玩AA/KK/AK/99+，基本上也没啥大问题。
,
although
up. |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 22 I think how much the initial buy-ins is a personal perference. But I don't
agree with you full buy-in is the way to go even if you step down to lower
levels.
First of all, I played all three Rush levels: NL 50, 100, 200 , my personal
impression is there is not such player skill level gap like everyone
imagined. I even find NL 100 is harder to beat than NL200 and there are more
fish in NL 200. I made most money by playing NL200. I don't know how the
long term will go. But ppl will go broke if the |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 23 感叹生不逢时啊。。 当年graduate school的时候迷恋网游，浪费了无数时光， 要是
从2002 年就开始打， 那多好啊。
不过NL 100 和NL200现在也没有那么难。。 个人觉得要盈利还是可以的，基本同意fcf
NL200- 还是不会打的多, 但赢钱可能是难一些,毕竟鱼的程度还不一样呢, 鱼打
1million手, 也是会进步的..
我还想赞一下fcf, 战绩是没得说了,但我更敬佩他对poker 的总体理解,我在dzpk8 看
到了他的专栏, 看了一些他早期的帖, 他考虑问题的角度真是非常好, 都是源于对
poker 的总体理解上的造诣..very very impressive.... |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 24 agree that NL200 should be the real gateway.
if a player plays 500K hands a year, either 2 rush tables or 8 regular
tables, 4 hours/day, and can reach that 5BB/100 "good" rate, that'll result
in 25K BB profit or $50K for NL200, plus rakeback+bonus, should be able to
get around $70-80K.
guess the vast majority of players can't reach this level.
one shortcut might be playing HU or 6-max, many pros advance fast on this
path, fcf himself is a good example, it's a tougher game, but can improve
skills |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 25 I decided to quit playing poker for this month, 10+ days only, LOL.
I put too much time playing and the result is disapointing. Online and live
combined and I was only up slightly less than 1K for this month. I lost a lot of sleeping time and life quality going down.
Had good start beginning of the month, playing NL100 majority of time and
then a little bit NL200. Was up more than 1.8K then the evebitable bad beat
begins. It all happened in the last week.
Some the hands:
1. NL200 , AA late posit |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 26 Poker 能赚钱，最重要是找 fish。
论水平，NL 100 一下的，水平好也好不到哪里去。
现在打的多了，觉得 NL200 是比 NL100 难打。以前说什么 NL200 好打，全是 BS。
总体来说，要在 small stake 混的话，买几本书，把理论读读透，打的 tight 一些，
基本上就能赢钱了。
能赢多少不好说，不过当副业，也不错。炒股输输赢赢，赚了钱还交一大把税，poker
不用交。花些功夫还是值得的。 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 27 Rush NL50 and NL100 are comparable. Ppl are generally playing soft. I am
pushing around a lot of pots and c-bet a lot and has high rate of sucess.
Not in NL200. Man, non of my trick works. The pot I can usually take down
using c-bet or second barrel, I get check-raised or call and then shove.
Even some short stack playing aggressive like crazy. A guy with $76 dollars
stack, turn bet pot size for 46 dollars, I have nut flush draw and made a
donkey move and shove all-in, he fold with remaing $15 f... 阅读全帖 |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 28 这个月经历了打牌以来最大的downswing. lost 9 buy in in 1 days, another 3 buy-
in in following 2 days,然后在以后5 天里在大幅反弹回10个buyin. 后又第2次探底
到lose $2000 in a single one day!!! (6 buyin in NL100 and $1400 went to
NL200, sigh... will not touch NL200 for a while). 这是我今年最大的downswing
. 以前最多只有4 buy in down,也是屈指可数..我当时觉得这个月几乎是不可能赢利
了, 只希望可以报住平局, 同时在downswing 中找到几个leak 来fix. 几个preflop 3
bet/4 bet 中的致命leak, 我很快就意识到了(虽然downswing 不全是这些leak 造成
的), 也有意fix 了一下.
终于经过艰难爬坡差不多爬上最高坡, 这个月也突破重重困难,
Cash盈利:400
Toney盈利:1500
rakeback: 45... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 29 其实没有什么鸟奇迹。我的奇迹就是不管赚多少钱，我都有办法输出去。
9 月打昏了头，熬了太多的夜，感觉身体不大好，于是把 fulltitl 的钱全提出来了。
洗手不打。
10 月 1 日，熬不住，又存了 80 元进去，10 月 1 日 - 9 日，从 80 打 到 2100。
NL100。
结果沾沾自喜中，自我提升到 NL200 去赚快钱。结果被左右开弓狂抽耳光。NL200 巨
多的 light 3 -bet，不甘心被 push around， 4-bet shove all-in two aggro (HUD
数据明白现实这两个乃所谓的 manic）with AK, 结果两次都撞见 AA， 仰天长叹见了
鬼耶。
两天功夫，2100 变 1000。虽奋力拼搏，却无力回天，感觉明显给 outmatch。无奈只
能 downgrade 回 NL100。没想到祸不单行，会 NL100 后，某段时间内，逢人就撞见
set，不是在 flop，就是 turn，bankroll 迅速向零靠拢。
天幸 10 月 22 日回国，家里木有宽带，无法打牌。
今归美国，算了一下十月老账。cash 530 +，无... 阅读全帖 |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 30 Someone did the following work in 2+2. Looks like there is a big gap between
FTP and PS. I am thinking to move to PS too...
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/ftp-black-card-thread-883862/index179.html
was doing some math, and i know others before me and even myself have
attempted this (the others not being me were probably right i just dont want
to read everything and if i have been taught to calculate FTP RB then i
will no longer need to be fed others peoples sandwiches):
SNE ... 阅读全帖 |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 31 Is this RUSH NL200 or regular NL200 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 32 This number is way off for someone playing 4 tabling rush NL100. Not like it
matters since I can't play rush anymore. But I think you need to get the
facts straight. I played 210k hand this year which averaged 60 hour per month (2 hours per day which is more than what I averaged last year). If i were to play 100 hours per month, I would have even better hourly rate because I could get second tier black card. Put this into context and you can work out the real number yourself. The potential of ... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 33 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 讨论一手牌 赫赫, 个人想法不同, 问题还是在我自己身上. 看了看那天顶上来的自己展望2011的帖, 里面说我说 bankroll 20k升NL200(已经很nitty 了), 结果black friday 的时候bankroll 30k, 还只试水了一次NL200. 我是没救了. 其实那时候已经有crush NL100 的感觉了.. 贪图安逸, 赌性不强, 我玩poker 没十么大前途的.
不过, 5/10 迟早要试一试的, 时间问题, 我live打得不多, 总共 200 hour 可能都不到,希望能再赢多点, 特别想要减少自己的physical tell 和多注意别人的. 2/5, 5/10 大多都是live 的老油条, 我不想在这上面吃亏, 没必要花大钱去买教训.... |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 34 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 讨论一手牌 we have similiar situation pre Black Friday. Just all most build enough
bankroll from 2-4 Rush to play high stakes HUSNG, everything stops and all
FTP BR got locked out there until now.
帖, 里面说我说 bankroll 20k升NL200(已经很nitty 了), 结果black friday 的时候
bankroll 30k, 还只试水了一次NL200. 我是没救了. 其实那时候已经有crush NL100
的感觉了.. 贪图安逸, 赌性不强, 我玩poker 没十么大前途的.
不到,希望能再赢多点, 特别想要减少自己的physical tell 和多注意别人的. 2/5, 5/
10 大多都是live 的老油条, 我不想在这上面吃亏, 没必要花大钱去买教训.... |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 35 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 讨论一手牌 do not know about 100 BB buyin online Rush game, but for deep stack live
game, usually 25-30 bi BR is pretty safe. For 100 BB cap live game, 50bi BR
is fairly safe zone as well.
帖, 里面说我说 bankroll 20k升NL200(已经很nitty 了), 结果black friday 的时候
bankroll 30k, 还只试水了一次NL200. 我是没救了. 其实那时候已经有crush NL100
的感觉了.. 贪图安逸, 赌性不强, 我玩poker 没十么大前途的.
不到,希望能再赢多点, 特别想要减少自己的physical tell 和多注意别人的. 2/5, 5/
10 大多都是live 的老油条, 我不想在这上面吃亏, 没必要花大钱去买教训.... |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 36 说完书，来说一下视频。
网上常见的coaching video可以大体上分为两类。第一类是review性质的，包括教练
review自己或者学员的session，教练自己的第一视角和sweat session。第二类是教练
挑选一系列某个特定spot的手牌，来专门讲解某个spot怎么打，比如Galfond的
philosophy系列。
我的感觉是第一类视频只在以下两种情况时比较有用：1.教练review一个和我打同一级
别的学员的session；2.教练自己的normal game和我是同一级别的。比如我看
Leatherass打NL1000就感觉是看看热闹，学不到什么东西，因为对手的level差太多了
。举个简单的例子来说leatherass CO 3bet AQs, UTG 4bet, leatherass shove。然后
说了一句：“这种情况我是绝对不会fold AQs的。”他指的这种情况大概是是自己3bet
～9%，对手4 bet range>5%，所以5 bet fold eq很高。如果我3bet UTG opener，因为
大部分NL100的选手4bet range 不到... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 37 A lot of pros play only 4 tables. Search "Yourdoom", for example.
Higher stakes rollers, on the other hand, plays only very few tables too.
Partially because less action available, partially because more thoughts
they need on each table.
I win 6bb/100, I don't have anywhere close to 100K per year...
NL200 is not as tough as you expected. As fcf said, everyone can beat NL200.
4bb/100 is not even close to a good win rate. Yourdoom beat NL1k at over
12bb/100.
time.
maybe |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 38 这个问题一直是我开始学打牌的以后比较关心的，因为如果你的win rate很高，就意味
着没什么必要在当前级别和一群菜鸟浪费时间了，如果很低，说明打法有大leak需要改
进。
我参照的依据一直是我所尊敬的前辈fcf的《扑克玩家的成长》。以下是他文章中提到
的两句：
“在级别4里待了一阵子大概可以成为50nl-100nl的赢家，一般是2-5ptbb/100 的赢家
。”
“这个级别（NL400～NL600）的最好的赢家也只有~5ptbb/100的赢率(6max,HU 可以到
10ptbb+/100). ”
HU的话到20bb/100是可以理解的，因为HU的高手可以不停的exploit对手，给对手施加
压力，让对手崩溃之类的。6max应该会更加接近fr，所以20bb/100应该很难，估计好的
赢家的长期胜率也就10bb/100出头。参考PTR上面今年best winner的数据，包括HU在内
，超过8万手的最高胜率也就16bb/100。考虑到PTR上面的win rate是算抽水之前的数据
，真实的win rate大概只有上面的一半到四分之三（取决于limit和网站）。所以fcf对
于fr和... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 39 poker对于我来说只是娱乐，只不过相比大部分其他娱乐玩家来说我的态度更认真而已。
Yourdoom盈利八万的那年好像一共只打了不到十万手牌。我没记错的话他是年底搬到加
拿大以后才又开始打的。所以以这个数字来衡量他的技术是很搞笑的。
年收入8万的扑克选手太多了……即使是打NL100/NL200的低级别玩家，只要一年volume
够，8万也还是很轻松的。在美国pro的话至少要玩NL200级别吧？这个级别5bb/100的胜
率，一年100万手的volume，不算反水也有十万。
前两天和朋友聊天的时候还说起这个话题，我从来不觉得打扑克是一个好的职业。假设
有一份年薪10万的普通工作的话，打牌年收入的期望至少要20万，我觉得才可以考虑专
职打牌。当然这是另外一个故事了。
再move up的话资金有点紧张，自从lock上的钱被黑以后就一直有了心理阴影。D神对我
有信心的话，要不来stake我吧。我给你80%的盈利怎么样？ |
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D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 40 很多人讨论过西安小周的线上水平到底如何。根据PokerNews的消息，来自亚洲的线上
高额玩家真实身份揭晓。该网站称“澳门高额玩家 Paul Phua就是MalACEsia，而Chun
Lei Zhou 就是samrostan，之前的ID是patpatpanda。“
根据扑克新闻的说法，patpatpanda 这个账号输掉了260万美元。也就是说“周输掉了
至少880万美元。”在线上亏损榜上两个账号分别排在第4位和第12位。尽管常年水下，
他似乎没有在意。“没问题。以前我只打无限德州扑克，有时没人和我打。所以我学了
其他游戏，输掉了不少钱。我喜欢打扑克。”
我们来看看网友是怎么讨论的。
@scorpiozm：线上线下根本是两种游戏。
@Nick_魏：什么水平完全不重要啊，即使线上最高额的crusher说不定这辈子和他坐在
一桌的资格都没有。
@自由于风：PS线上NL200水平其实和最高额差不了多少，差别可能就是资金实力，和人
的性格了。战胜NL200的人，你给他足够的资金，冒险的性格，他就可以站在最高额的
桌上。
@扑克圈那点事儿：NL400以上的reg或者Pro ，按技术来说很多人都... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 41 12年初开始打牌交了一年学费。13年开始打NL50和NL100，run的极好，几乎是以10bb/
100的胜率赢了一整年。然后，今年开始玩NL200，先是在ACR上被bad beat了一个月，
profit比EV少了十几个buy-in。然后在bovada上小赢了一个月之后，又开始被bad beat
，ev又少了十几个buy-in。最近输输赢赢慢慢填坑。
D神说自己的win rate不如到麦当劳打工。其实要打赢麦当劳的hourly rate相当不容易
。算麦当劳的min-wage是$10/hour。假设打四桌NL100， 一小时300手牌，这就相当于
4bb/100的胜率。本身就相当不错了。再考虑麦当劳的收入是没有波动的，打牌的波动
这么大，如果真要和麦当劳相当，（比如全职麦当劳打工和全职扑克）那胜率至少要在
12bb/100吧？这基本就是这个级别的top winner了。
大环境看，扑克的形式也是越来越差。扑克网站的丑闻层出不穷，我在lock上的几k刀
就算是喂狗了。美国扑克联邦范围的合法化也是遥遥无期。虽然我对扑克的兴趣依然很
大，但是越来越觉得这个时间花得很不值得。
立此帖为证，如... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 42 那看来是没办法了,NL1000还是太高大上了,吊丝没法操作,连试都试不了.
你觉得从NL200到600区别大么? 我觉得NL100到200还是很有区别的,villain们的
thinking level明显更高. 从NL200往上到NL1000,真正的肥鱼少了,但会玩的villain们
好象差不太多,我唯一感觉到的是preflop late position and blinds, 3-5bet 更凶了. |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 43 据我回忆，
小POPO去年从NL50快速升到NL200，
青虫哥也是去年从NL100到NL200，
两位应该都是今年先赢后输，赢利寥寥。
D神的MTT不知如何？
风暴兄最近是不是就不怎么打了？
珍珠哥这些现场高手今年相比去年又如何？
那位永久潜水的老斑竹呢？
女赌神还在10/20混吗？ |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 44 说明什么问题？
户头里剩下$200，50NL不敢打，跑到25NL，想把户头做大再说。
妈的整天的badbeat，反正就是拿不到牌，拿到牌flop大，turn和river必然对方hit。
每天输$20-$30,然后最后一天剩下$60,跑到NL100，结果打到$300.然后又怕bankroll不
够。又去打50NL，然后又是badbeat。剩$100多，又跑到NL100，这一次打到$1000.
我估计自己水平肯定够打100NL。50NL的对手每个都能看出对方有什么漏洞。知道针对
不同对手的不同leak去exploit（总之就是觉得50NL全是鱼）。
NL100多数对手也是这样。有些难打的对手实际上是NL200跑下来的。可以查到这些ID也
在NL200上打。
现在问题来了。升级以后运气和降级时差的太大。老是flop中set，中straight，而且
都是对方3bet，明显有大牌时中。难道不是pokerroom鼓励升级吗，惩罚降级吗？ |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 45 扑克的variance 是很大，但也没有你想象的那么大。
至少在NL200 以下你完全可以玩比较稳的打法，而没有很大的浮动。 我的一百万手牌
里 （NL10- NL200 都有），最大的down swing 也就10-15 个 buy in而已, 好像也就
只有三次。当然这和打法有很大的关系。
如果你有经常在一个级别经常有20-30 buy in 或更多的down swing, 你可能要深思一
下，
1）你到底是不是这个游戏的真赢家， variance 大的时候，你对自己的真实赢率的估
计会有很大出入。
2）你的玩法的variance 和ev 的比例可能并不值得你玩这个游戏（破产可能和赢率比
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 46 还是edge的关系。30万手那个edge应该小到忽略。现在感觉live比online好赚钱就是因
为同样level, live简单多了。不能拿onine nl200和live nl200比，按水平可能nl10或
者nl25。板上打nl400或以上的对应live应该在nl2000以上，live在这些level混的也不
容易，不挣钱和破产很常见吧。 |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 47 NL200( online 1/2)
66 bet 7$ bf flop one loose guy called on SB, flop is 3d4h5d, he check, I
bet 14$, he check raise to 28$, I call turn is 2d, he bet 72$, will he
had flush here?
NL200(1/2 online)
KK, two limper I bet 13$, one guy called, flop J53 two clubs, he check, I
bet 28$(pot), he called( no image ) turn is 7h( no flush), he check , I bet
70$, he think a while and all in 80$ more!. |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 48 1.currently I am part-time( daytime job to keep my H1 status(:
2.I focused on cash game (NL200 live game,NL400 or NL600
in ultimet bet)
3.partypoker is closed in USA
I recommend fulltitlt UB or pokerstar
there are always people cheating , I tried before,not worth it, so I think
you don't need to care ( it is very safe for your money if you play in big
site, never try small site, and I don't think people can hack the site that
easily.
4.for beginner
Ken Warren Teaches Texas Hold'em (Pape |
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l********r
发帖数: 868 | 49 great answers... more questions:
1. what does NL200 live game mean? and what's ultimet bet? you mean the big
blind is 200/400/600?
2. how do people cheat in cash game? will multiple players play from the
same room and have an advantage over you?
think
big
that
because |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 50 ultimet bet is a online pokersite
NL200 means maximam buyin is 200$ blind is (2-4$)
Two or more friends play using VPN to sit in the same table is a typical way
to cheat, but you have to share the profit.
as tax, I didn't pay yet :0
there are many way to avoid this. |
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