n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 1 who would you say?
I can see a few candidates. Pujols, ARod, Bonds, Randy Johnson, Johan
Santana, Roy Halladay. Anyone else? How would you rank them? |
t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 2 这个最好把投手拿出来单算吧...
这些个人的话bonds>arod=pujols, unit>roy>johan imho. |
n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 3 Wow
I would rank them exactly the way you did. To me, Bonds >> Pujols. His
numbers in the first half of the decade are simply un-human. And
Unit >> Roy/Johan. To me, he really won 4 CYs in this decade (2004
went to Roger Clemens just because of # of wins). This is a great
achievement.
And Bonds > Randy Johnson. :)
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】
: 这个最好把投手拿出来单算吧...
: 这些个人的话bonds>arod=pujols, unit>roy>johan imho.
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 4 你这个应该改成：PED>>Pujols
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: Wow
: I would rank them exactly the way you did. To me, Bonds >> Pujols. His
: numbers in the first half of the decade are simply un-human. And
: Unit >> Roy/Johan. To me, he really won 4 CYs in this decade (2004
: went to Roger Clemens just because of # of wins). This is a great
: achievement.
: And Bonds > Randy Johnson. :)
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J**e
发帖数: 15008 | 5 bonds是那个药王吗？
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: Wow
: I would rank them exactly the way you did. To me, Bonds >> Pujols. His
: numbers in the first half of the decade are simply un-human. And
: Unit >> Roy/Johan. To me, he really won 4 CYs in this decade (2004
: went to Roger Clemens just because of # of wins). This is a great
: achievement.
: And Bonds > Randy Johnson. :)
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | |
n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 7 I knew Cards fans will say this.
There is no guarantee that Pujols is clean. A couple of years ago,
there was a list of PEDers that got leaked out. Pujols' name was
in it. It was just that the list was never confirmed due to legal
reasons.
Pujols is great. Don't get me wrong. But Bonds' number early this
decade is unique.
PS: qwyu, sorry. did not intend to reply you by mail...
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】
: 你这个应该改成：PED>>Pujols
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 8 There is a difference between having one's name included in some list with
unknown sources which nobody could confirm and which nobody even took
seriously, and having been indicted by a federal grand jury.
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: I knew Cards fans will say this.
: There is no guarantee that Pujols is clean. A couple of years ago,
: there was a list of PEDers that got leaked out. Pujols' name was
: in it. It was just that the list was never confirmed due to legal
: reasons.
: Pujols is great. Don't get me wrong. But Bonds' number early this
: decade is unique.
: PS: qwyu, sorry. did not intend to reply you by mail...
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 9 call me an idiot. but every alleged (and confirmed) steroid users were on th
at list. This gives that list some credential, at least to me. hehe
I am not even alleging Pujols to be a steroids user here. I am just saying w
e only know the partial truth about the steroid usage in baseball. I would n
ot rush to any conclusion and start condemning the known users. Of coz, this
is just my personal opinion and I have no intention to ask you to agree wit
h it. :)
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】
: There is a difference between having one's name included in some list with
: unknown sources which nobody could confirm and which nobody even took
: seriously, and having been indicted by a federal grand jury.
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r******g
发帖数: 3849 | 10 扑猴子绝对吃了。看看丫那身板就知道了。不过无所谓，每个人都不干净。
估计这些大炮都吃了。 |
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h***o
发帖数: 2321 | 11 Ichiro
Jeter
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: who would you say?
: I can see a few candidates. Pujols, ARod, Bonds, Randy Johnson, Johan
: Santana, Roy Halladay. Anyone else? How would you rank them?
|
k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 12 这种说法对朴厚斯太不厚到了
他的成绩一直很稳定，这两年三天两头被药检，也没查出来什么
要之前吃现在没吃，这些年的成绩上会有明显区别的
就像Bonds吃药前后那种差别
Bonds职业生涯前8年的成绩比起朴厚四要稍差
th
w
n
this
wit
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: call me an idiot. but every alleged (and confirmed) steroid users were on th
: at list. This gives that list some credential, at least to me. hehe
: I am not even alleging Pujols to be a steroids user here. I am just saying w
: e only know the partial truth about the steroid usage in baseball. I would n
: ot rush to any conclusion and start condemning the known users. Of coz, this
: is just my personal opinion and I have no intention to ask you to agree wit
: h it. :)
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h***o
发帖数: 2321 | 13 这话不厚道
从成绩上你能看出ARod吃药了吗？
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 这种说法对朴厚斯太不厚到了
: 他的成绩一直很稳定，这两年三天两头被药检，也没查出来什么
: 要之前吃现在没吃，这些年的成绩上会有明显区别的
: 就像Bonds吃药前后那种差别
: Bonds职业生涯前8年的成绩比起朴厚四要稍差
:
: th
: w
: n
: this
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 14 被抓住了的以及自己承认了的这些球员，俺们必须对他们区别对待，至少对于过去的成绩
。如果说反正还有没被抓住的，所以对待所有球员都跟对待这些被抓住了的一样，那讨
论成绩就完全没有意义了，反正都是假的。
【在 h***o 的大作中提到】
: 这话不厚道
: 从成绩上你能看出ARod吃药了吗？
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a*****i
发帖数: 4391 | 15 ESPN named Bonds to be the greatest baseball player of the decade. |
n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 16 I have to say that I was really surprised to learn that AROD used PED.
I thought among all the sluggers in the steroid era, he was most
likely to be clean. But he proved that I was badly wrong.
Seriously, we can not single out one slugger from that era and say,
look, he is clean. We simply do not know.
But hey, at least Ichiro is clean. We know that for sure, don't we...
【在 h***o 的大作中提到】
: 这话不厚道
: 从成绩上你能看出ARod吃药了吗？
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 17 really? today? @@
【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】
: ESPN named Bonds to be the greatest baseball player of the decade.
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x**h
发帖数: 1564 | 18 ESPN digs long ball
【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】
: ESPN named Bonds to be the greatest baseball player of the decade.
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 19 Most likely to be clean的不是arod，而是junior
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: I have to say that I was really surprised to learn that AROD used PED.
: I thought among all the sluggers in the steroid era, he was most
: likely to be clean. But he proved that I was badly wrong.
: Seriously, we can not single out one slugger from that era and say,
: look, he is clean. We simply do not know.
: But hey, at least Ichiro is clean. We know that for sure, don't we...
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M***o
发帖数: 980 | 20 为啥ichiro肯定是干净的？连pujols你们都说是用了ped的。唉。
p.s.: 他名字到底怎么念呀？按照西班牙语，不是应该puhols吗？
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: I have to say that I was really surprised to learn that AROD used PED.
: I thought among all the sluggers in the steroid era, he was most
: likely to be clean. But he proved that I was badly wrong.
: Seriously, we can not single out one slugger from that era and say,
: look, he is clean. We simply do not know.
: But hey, at least Ichiro is clean. We know that for sure, don't we...
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Q******g
发帖数: 607 | 21 扑猴斯
【在 M***o 的大作中提到】
: 为啥ichiro肯定是干净的？连pujols你们都说是用了ped的。唉。
: p.s.: 他名字到底怎么念呀？按照西班牙语，不是应该puhols吗？
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x**h
发帖数: 1564 | 22 靠， ichiro連170lbs都不到，一年就个位数的HR
就这还吃药？
【在 M***o 的大作中提到】
: 为啥ichiro肯定是干净的？连pujols你们都说是用了ped的。唉。
: p.s.: 他名字到底怎么念呀？按照西班牙语，不是应该puhols吗？
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r**********e
发帖数: 2821 | 23 义齿肉不大可能，普猴斯看身材值得怀疑。
【在 M***o 的大作中提到】
: 为啥ichiro肯定是干净的？连pujols你们都说是用了ped的。唉。
: p.s.: 他名字到底怎么念呀？按照西班牙语，不是应该puhols吗？
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c*******t
发帖数: 43 | 24 就一记捞那花样男子般的小身板，出去给人家说自己吃了药会被药厂的人按诽谤罪打死
的。
【在 M***o 的大作中提到】
: 为啥ichiro肯定是干净的？连pujols你们都说是用了ped的。唉。
: p.s.: 他名字到底怎么念呀？按照西班牙语，不是应该puhols吗？
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 25 关于ichiro在BP的时候连续把球打上看台的故事还少吗?他只是作为leadoff不需要捞大
棒吧...追求avg的话个人觉得真的没有吃药的必要... |
