g********0
发帖数: 6201 | 1 Insubordination in the Lab
05/23/2012 David Pittman
In two recent cases, post-docs have published data without their principal
investigator’s consent. Can this be prevented from happening again?
Jiasheng Diao was a post-doc at the Purdue University, working in the lab of
X-ray crystallographer Miriam Hasson on structure of the protein butyrate
kinase when Hasson passed away in 2006. As a result, the university gave
control of her protein structure data to her husband, Purdue biochemist
David Sanders. Three years later, that protein structure data finally made
its way into a paper in the Journal of Bacteriology that listed Diao and
Hassan as co-authors (1).
Jiashend Diao published this protein structure in the Journal of
Bacteriology without his PI's consent. Source: Journal of Bacteriology
The only problem was that it was published without Sanders’ consent. As a
result, the journal has now retracted the paper at Sanders’ request,
according to the blog Retraction Watch (2). As it turns out, this is the
second retraction in this case; the journal Proteins has retracted another
2009 paper submitted by Diao that used Hasson’s data without permission (3)
. In addition, Diao tried to publish a paper in the Journal of Molecular
Biology, but Sanders caught on and contacted the journal before the paper
was published.
But the situation at Purdue is not unique. For example, former Baylor
College of Medicine post-doc Hui Chai has also published papers in The
Anatomical Record and Biological & Pharmaceutical Bulletin using data that
was obtained during her time in the lab of Changyi Chen without his
permission (4-5). In the end, those papers were retracted.
Both recent cases involving post-docs who publish data without consent of
the principal investigator highlight a growing trend of insubordination in
the lab. Ferric Fang, editor in chief of the journal Infection and Immunity
and professor of laboratory medicine and microbiology at the University of
Washington School of Medicine in Seattle, has seen his fair share of papers
retracted because of similar authorship disputes.
“The issue of data ownership is complex,” said Fang. “Post-docs may
understandably feel that data they obtained in experiments belong to them.”
But work sponsored by the National Institutes of Health (NIH), as in the
case of Diao, belongs to the institution where the work was conducted. Diao
didn’t have the right to publish the work without Sanders’ consent, since
the university put him in control of his deceased wife’s data, noted Fang.
In the end, the question is how can these situations be prevented in the
future. For starters, schools could provide better instruction to trainees
on data ownership. Researchers can establish collegial relationships with
trainees to allow resolution of authorship concerns before manuscripts are
submitted. Further, journals can provide explicit instructions regarding
authorship rights.
“This is an instructive, though unfortunate, case,” said Fang. “Science
nearly always involves a collaborative effort, and a report of scientific
findings should have the endorsement of all team members involved.”
References
Diao, J., and M. S. Hasson. 2009. Crystal structure of butyrate kinase 2
from thermotoga maritima, a member of the ASKHA superfamily of
phosphotransferases. Journal of Bacteriology 191(8):2521-2529.
Diao, J., and M. S. Hasson. 2012. Crystal structure of butyrate kinase 2
from thermotoga maritima, a member of the ASKHA superfamily of
phosphotransferases. Journal of Bacteriology 194(11):3033.
J. Diao, Y.D. Ma, and M.S. Hasson. 2012. Retraction: Open and closed
conformations reveal induced fit movements in butyrate kinase 2 activation.
Proteins 80(6):1712.
2012. Retraction. Anat Rec 295(5):715.
Chai, H., Q. Wang, L. Huang, T. Xie, and Y. Fu. 2008. Ginsenoside rb1
inhibits tumor necrosis factor-alpha-induced vascular cell adhesion molecule
-1 expression in human endothelial cells. Biological & pharmaceutical
bulletin 31(11):2050-2056. |
m***i
发帖数: 2013 | 2 看来找老板不仅要看本身，还得看ta老公/老婆人品咋样。
难度提高了 |
p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 3 第一个例子也不能怪这个博后啊 老板去世了 凭啥莫名其妙的data就由她老公控制了？
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【在 g********0 的大作中提到】
: Insubordination in the Lab
: 05/23/2012 David Pittman
: In two recent cases, post-docs have published data without their principal
: investigator’s consent. Can this be prevented from happening again?
: Jiasheng Diao was a post-doc at the Purdue University, working in the lab of
: X-ray crystallographer Miriam Hasson on structure of the protein butyrate
: kinase when Hasson passed away in 2006. As a result, the university gave
: control of her protein structure data to her husband, Purdue biochemist
: David Sanders. Three years later, that protein structure data finally made
: its way into a paper in the Journal of Bacteriology that listed Diao and
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B*****e
发帖数: 1005 | 4 看来data也有继承权啊. 如果家属也不在，是不是就是儿子女儿可以拥有这个data了。
下次发表的时候还要看PI的后代脸色了。
其实现在的版权，很多名人的后代都在拿这个要钱啊。
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【在 g********0 的大作中提到】
: Insubordination in the Lab
: 05/23/2012 David Pittman
: In two recent cases, post-docs have published data without their principal
: investigator’s consent. Can this be prevented from happening again?
: Jiasheng Diao was a post-doc at the Purdue University, working in the lab of
: X-ray crystallographer Miriam Hasson on structure of the protein butyrate
: kinase when Hasson passed away in 2006. As a result, the university gave
: control of her protein structure data to her husband, Purdue biochemist
: David Sanders. Three years later, that protein structure data finally made
: its way into a paper in the Journal of Bacteriology that listed Diao and
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d***y
发帖数: 8536 | |
v**********m
发帖数: 5516 | 6 苦命的Diao。
of
【在 g********0 的大作中提到】
: Insubordination in the Lab
: 05/23/2012 David Pittman
: In two recent cases, post-docs have published data without their principal
: investigator’s consent. Can this be prevented from happening again?
: Jiasheng Diao was a post-doc at the Purdue University, working in the lab of
: X-ray crystallographer Miriam Hasson on structure of the protein butyrate
: kinase when Hasson passed away in 2006. As a result, the university gave
: control of her protein structure data to her husband, Purdue biochemist
: David Sanders. Three years later, that protein structure data finally made
: its way into a paper in the Journal of Bacteriology that listed Diao and
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d********m
发帖数: 3662 | |
p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 8 没看过红灯记？
【在 d********m 的大作中提到】
: 谁能告诉我diao可能是哪个姓？
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p**q
发帖数: 1130 | 9 刁
【在 d********m 的大作中提到】
: 谁能告诉我diao可能是哪个姓？
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d********m
发帖数: 3662 | 10 不瞒你说，还真没看过
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 没看过红灯记？
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d********m
发帖数: 3662 | 11 谢了
【在 p**q 的大作中提到】
: 刁
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 12 初中的时候唱着玩的：
刁德一∶（唱）新四军久在沙家浜，
这棵大树有荫凉。
你与他们常来往，
想必是安排照应更周祥。
阿庆嫂∶（唱）垒起七星灶，铜壶煮三江。
摆开八仙桌， 招待十六方。
来得都是客， 全凭嘴一张。
相逢开口笑，
过后不思量。
人一走，茶就凉。
有什么周祥不周祥.
【在 d********m 的大作中提到】
: 不瞒你说，还真没看过
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K**4
发帖数: 1015 | 13 有几个老外在讨论了
http://www.biotechniques.com/news/Insubordination-in-the-Lab/bi
大家应该到上面发言
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: 看来data也有继承权啊. 如果家属也不在，是不是就是儿子女儿可以拥有这个data了。
: 下次发表的时候还要看PI的后代脸色了。
: 其实现在的版权，很多名人的后代都在拿这个要钱啊。
:
: of
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n**8
发帖数: 221 | 14 是《沙家浜》不是《红灯记》吧。
曾经很迷peoplem的那一段（智斗）的唱腔。。。 |
p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 15 是是 我太土了 不知道想哪儿去了
【在 n**8 的大作中提到】
: 是《沙家浜》不是《红灯记》吧。
: 曾经很迷peoplem的那一段（智斗）的唱腔。。。
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a*******e
发帖数: 245 | 16 哎，同情
这data为什么能转给另一个人？kao，什么世道，老板去世了，薄厚就应该有权利独立
发。
of
【在 g********0 的大作中提到】
: Insubordination in the Lab
: 05/23/2012 David Pittman
: In two recent cases, post-docs have published data without their principal
: investigator’s consent. Can this be prevented from happening again?
: Jiasheng Diao was a post-doc at the Purdue University, working in the lab of
: X-ray crystallographer Miriam Hasson on structure of the protein butyrate
: kinase when Hasson passed away in 2006. As a result, the university gave
: control of her protein structure data to her husband, Purdue biochemist
: David Sanders. Three years later, that protein structure data finally made
: its way into a paper in the Journal of Bacteriology that listed Diao and
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g*********r
发帖数: 2033 | 17 估计这个sanders 不打算给 刁 一作了
否则刁不会这么做的，换一个通讯作者，或者加一个通讯作者，刁应该不介意的
唯一能让他这么做的就是牵扯到他自己的credit的问题
很可能这个sanders想把自己学生做一作
结果这成了双输的局面 --作为直接做这个项目的刁现在肯定撕破脸了，他坚决反对这
个paper也发布出去
而且他可以公开实验条件，很快这个paper就由别的lab 发了
【在 v**********m 的大作中提到】
: 苦命的Diao。
:
: of
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s*******a
发帖数: 8827 | 18 反正怎么都轮不到psotdoc. 就算data扔掉也不能给postdoc. 不然此先例一开，后果不
堪设想。
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 第一个例子也不能怪这个博后啊 老板去世了 凭啥莫名其妙的data就由她老公控制了？
: ft
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d******r
发帖数: 244 | 19 第一个case，阿刁可以解释说，我已经把manuscript烧给前老板看了，她没反对。
of
【在 g********0 的大作中提到】
: Insubordination in the Lab
: 05/23/2012 David Pittman
: In two recent cases, post-docs have published data without their principal
: investigator’s consent. Can this be prevented from happening again?
: Jiasheng Diao was a post-doc at the Purdue University, working in the lab of
: X-ray crystallographer Miriam Hasson on structure of the protein butyrate
: kinase when Hasson passed away in 2006. As a result, the university gave
: control of her protein structure data to her husband, Purdue biochemist
: David Sanders. Three years later, that protein structure data finally made
: its way into a paper in the Journal of Bacteriology that listed Diao and
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C*******I
发帖数: 151 | 20 干脆说烧完当夜前老板托梦强烈支持得了:-)
【在 d******r 的大作中提到】
: 第一个case，阿刁可以解释说，我已经把manuscript烧给前老板看了，她没反对。
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: of
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J***2
发帖数: 444 | 21 zhan!
【在 d******r 的大作中提到】
: 第一个case，阿刁可以解释说，我已经把manuscript烧给前老板看了，她没反对。
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: of
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D*a
发帖数: 6830 | 22 大概看了看，都是支持Diao的声音啊
data居然也能继承，太诡异了。
【在 K**4 的大作中提到】
: 有几个老外在讨论了
: http://www.biotechniques.com/news/Insubordination-in-the-Lab/bi
: 大家应该到上面发言
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f******g
发帖数: 1003 | |
m**********2
发帖数: 6568 | |
o******n
发帖数: 511 | 25 my sympathy goes to Diao. |
h********n
发帖数: 4079 | |
w********s
发帖数: 80 | 27 Doesn't make sense to give the IP to the husband. In this case, it should be
given to a committee. |
w********r
发帖数: 1431 | 28 可怜的兄弟，怎么着和我老五百年前也是一家啊唉。。。 |
