T**********n
发帖数: 480 | 1 就算成了top cs的assistant prof
一样还得论资排辈熬年头，熬啊熬最后还没准能不能tenure
就算tenure了也不省心，还得讲课，发一堆non-sense的paper
最后对人类进步宇宙和平也不见得有啥贡献，赫赫 |
b******y
发帖数: 2729 | 2 一看就知道没去公司干过。工作1-2年就知道faculty得好了。
到时候你哭都来不及了
【在 T**********n 的大作中提到】
: 就算成了top cs的assistant prof
: 一样还得论资排辈熬年头，熬啊熬最后还没准能不能tenure
: 就算tenure了也不省心，还得讲课，发一堆non-sense的paper
: 最后对人类进步宇宙和平也不见得有啥贡献，赫赫
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s***e
发帖数: 49 | 3 跟公司比好在哪里？跟俺讲讲，俺也不懂的说。。。
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 一看就知道没去公司干过。工作1-2年就知道faculty得好了。
: 到时候你哭都来不及了
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T**********n
发帖数: 480 | 4 俺在国内的公司干过，知道不好干
不过目睹俺们这EE的asssistant prof拿不到tenure而走人也很痛心疾首啊
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 一看就知道没去公司干过。工作1-2年就知道faculty得好了。
: 到时候你哭都来不及了
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B*N
发帖数: 147 | 5 1-2年怕不够，得过了35岁，供着房子车子孩子，赶上经济不景气，身边一批接一批被炒
鱿鱼不知道什么时候轮到自己，而当年的同学早已拿了TENURE，每天11点起床，忙于看网
络小说，悠哉悠哉。那时候可能才会有感觉，呵呵。
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 一看就知道没去公司干过。工作1-2年就知道faculty得好了。
: 到时候你哭都来不及了
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 6 I am working in industry and I am getting up every day literally at 11:00AM (I
get home at 11:00PM though).
As long as you are good, you will secure your job even in the down turn. Same
principle applies everywhere. NONE of my classmates in the States ever got
laid off in the past.
炒
网
【在 B*N 的大作中提到】
: 1-2年怕不够，得过了35岁，供着房子车子孩子，赶上经济不景气，身边一批接一批被炒
: 鱿鱼不知道什么时候轮到自己，而当年的同学早已拿了TENURE，每天11点起床，忙于看网
: 络小说，悠哉悠哉。那时候可能才会有感觉，呵呵。
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t*********n
发帖数: 1 | 7 同作者阅读你一下， 发现你才参加工作了半年。。。...
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: I am working in industry and I am getting up every day literally at 11:00AM (I
: get home at 11:00PM though).
: As long as you are good, you will secure your job even in the down turn. Same
: principle applies everywhere. NONE of my classmates in the States ever got
: laid off in the past.
:
: 炒
: 网
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 8 That's right. But that doesn't mean my classmates only worked half year.
And I didn't dare to get up so late 6 months ago.
11:00AM (I
Same
批被
于看
【在 t*********n 的大作中提到】
: 同作者阅读你一下， 发现你才参加工作了半年。。。...
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v*****t
发帖数: 10 | 9 If you have a family, I mean wife and kids, do you think it is OK to get up at
11am and get home at 11pm?
got
一
忙
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: That's right. But that doesn't mean my classmates only worked half year.
: And I didn't dare to get up so late 6 months ago.
:
: 11:00AM (I
: Same
: 批被
: 于看
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 10 only worked half a year doesn't give someone enough impression of true
hardship in industry I guess.
【在 v*****t 的大作中提到】
: If you have a family, I mean wife and kids, do you think it is OK to get up at
: 11am and get home at 11pm?
:
: got
: 一
: 忙
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|
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 11 Do you have work experience in industry? I would say industry work is easier
than academic one.
To secure your tenure as a professor, you got at least 10 years' hardship -- 5
years in Ph.D. program and 5+ years as assistant professor. Then if you don't
want to be nobody in your department/area, you have to work as hard as before.
up at
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: only worked half a year doesn't give someone enough impression of true
: hardship in industry I guess.
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 12 Man, you don't have to work that way anyway, especially if you don't mind the
rush hours every morning and afternoon.
As far as I know, professors work at home at night, if they don't stay in
office. That doesn't sound very much better to me either.
at
turn.
接
，
【在 v*****t 的大作中提到】
: If you have a family, I mean wife and kids, do you think it is OK to get up at
: 11am and get home at 11pm?
:
: got
: 一
: 忙
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 13 I worked in industry before but most of the time are not in CS.
Faculty job's only benefit is stable and flexible but also incrediably busy.
I think for a couple, one works as faculty while the other in industry is
the best configueration.
If my wife is a faculty, then I will switch to industry. hehe.
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: Do you have work experience in industry? I would say industry work is easier
: than academic one.
: To secure your tenure as a professor, you got at least 10 years' hardship -- 5
: years in Ph.D. program and 5+ years as assistant professor. Then if you don't
: want to be nobody in your department/area, you have to work as hard as before.
:
: up at
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v*****t
发帖数: 10 | 14 There is a key difference: flexibility. You have to work in that style
everyday but most professors take one or two days off each week, working at
home.
Anyway, no matter what job you take, you have to work hard. That's for sure.
There is no easy money in this world.
the
up
ever
批
床
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: Man, you don't have to work that way anyway, especially if you don't mind the
: rush hours every morning and afternoon.
: As far as I know, professors work at home at night, if they don't stay in
: office. That doesn't sound very much better to me either.
:
: at
: turn.
: 接
: ，
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t***s
发帖数: 163 | 15 To be faculty, you can get more control. I can have a group and could be
tenured as long as you are not bad. In industry job sometimes is boring, not
secure.
【在 s***e 的大作中提到】
: 跟公司比好在哪里？跟俺讲讲，俺也不懂的说。。。
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s*m
发帖数: 34 | 16
俺就不喜欢
【在 T**********n 的大作中提到】
: 就算成了top cs的assistant prof
: 一样还得论资排辈熬年头，熬啊熬最后还没准能不能tenure
: 就算tenure了也不省心，还得讲课，发一堆non-sense的paper
: 最后对人类进步宇宙和平也不见得有啥贡献，赫赫
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a***r
发帖数: 35 | 17
(I
industry?11:00??
how could it be possible!
Same
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: I am working in industry and I am getting up every day literally at 11:00AM (I
: get home at 11:00PM though).
: As long as you are good, you will secure your job even in the down turn. Same
: principle applies everywhere. NONE of my classmates in the States ever got
: laid off in the past.
:
: 炒
: 网
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