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EB23版 - Donald Trump’s immigration plan, explained
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1 (共1页)
d***d
发帖数: 310
d***d
发帖数: 310
2
Perhaps the most radical idea in Trump's proposals to limit legal
immigration is something he calls "immigration moderation" — a moratorium
on giving any green cards to "foreign workers abroad" for a period of time,
to force American employers to hire unemployed Americans in the US. Trump
doesn't specify if he would put a moratorium on all green cards, or just
those issued for employment.
If Trump just wants to stop giving people green cards for the purpose of
working in the US, that wouldn't be radical at all. It'd just be another
minor tweak aimed at high-skilled workers. Very few people living abroad get
employment-based green cards right off the bat, and they tend to be
exceptionally skilled workers and rich investors.
l*********d
发帖数: 315
3
明显要从严检查
Job Qualification, for AOS-485 process.
大家要小心了。。
d***d
发帖数: 310
4
哪儿出处?

【在 l*********d 的大作中提到】
: 明显要从严检查
: Job Qualification, for AOS-485 process.
: 大家要小心了。。

l*********d
发帖数: 315
5
上一段:
“Rhetorically, Trump's platform focuses on "low-wage workers" being brought
to the US by greedy employers. But his specific proposals are squarely
aimed at the program Sessions has made his committee's biggest target: the
H1-B visa for "high-skilled" immigrant workers.
Trump would raise the "prevailing wage" that H1-B workers must be paid, to
make it less appealing for employers to hire them. And he would require all
employers to "hire American workers first" before seeking visas for
immigrant labor. (Some employers seeking visas have to attest that they've
jumped through certain hoops to recruit Americans before petitioning for the
visa; it's not clear if Trump wants to make this requirement universal, or
implement something stricter.)”

【在 d***d 的大作中提到】
: 哪儿出处?
d***d
发帖数: 310
6
那更针对PERM吧?你的意思Trump会用J form?
l*********d
发帖数: 315
7
EB的485中从严把关pay scale。不到政府规定的收入不批AOS。
这个大家都理解吧。
硅谷大佬们早就料到这出了吧。

【在 d***d 的大作中提到】
: 那更针对PERM吧?你的意思Trump会用J form?
d***d
发帖数: 310
8
现在不是也是不到PW也不批吗?

【在 l*********d 的大作中提到】
: EB的485中从严把关pay scale。不到政府规定的收入不批AOS。
: 这个大家都理解吧。
: 硅谷大佬们早就料到这出了吧。

l*********d
发帖数: 315
9
还没理解的同学们可以放狗搜下
“Senator Jeff Sessions”
看看这老哥以前都鼓吹什么移民政策来着。
G***e
发帖数: 315
10
难过
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m****7
发帖数: 329
11
怎么可能呢。我觉得这个网站的观点太左了,好像川普说的什么都会实现一样,完全没
有自己的分析。
r******y
发帖数: 763
12

风声紧啊,没绿卡的赶紧抓紧了,H1b 和485只会越来越难。

【在 d***d 的大作中提到】
: http://www.vox.com/2015/8/16/9162905/trump-immigration
A*******n
发帖数: 606
13
唉 难阿
l*******r
发帖数: 2847
14
15年8月的文章……
d***d
发帖数: 310
15
现在也没变吧。
如果绿卡停办,那交了485的也没戏了?
y******i
发帖数: 558
16
How do you think the tech stock is falling today?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2016/11/09/what-will-donald-trump-mean-for-immigration/#6f0b3d604f30
http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-tech-reaction-20161108-htmlstory.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2016-11-09/donald-trump-victory-is
-silicon-valley-s-loss-on-immigration
Even if he flip flops, his base and the republican party wouldn't change
stance on skilled immigration.

【在 l*******r 的大作中提到】
: 15年8月的文章……
y******i
发帖数: 558
17
I don't think he will actually pause green card process, but it will be hard
for him to increase number of greencard, and the OPT extension from Obama
might be reversed. H1B and new green card applications will be harder.

【在 d***d 的大作中提到】
: 现在也没变吧。
: 如果绿卡停办,那交了485的也没戏了?

y******i
发帖数: 558
18
Relax everyone. This is D. Trump we are talking about. He is very
unpredictable, and who knows what he will do in the end. There is no use to
speculate.
o******t
发帖数: 1994
19
这主据说要在老流氓的内阁中获得重要职位。

【在 l*********d 的大作中提到】
: 还没理解的同学们可以放狗搜下
: “Senator Jeff Sessions”
: 看看这老哥以前都鼓吹什么移民政策来着。

f**s
发帖数: 138
20
看这个解读,没觉得会针对中国移民群体太多。相反像烙印那种ICC大量搬运,各种通
过克扣H1B工资搬运的手段,会被整肃。中国新移民拿学位的比直接搬运的应该要多吧。

brought
all
the

【在 l*********d 的大作中提到】
: 上一段:
: “Rhetorically, Trump's platform focuses on "low-wage workers" being brought
: to the US by greedy employers. But his specific proposals are squarely
: aimed at the program Sessions has made his committee's biggest target: the
: H1-B visa for "high-skilled" immigrant workers.
: Trump would raise the "prevailing wage" that H1-B workers must be paid, to
: make it less appealing for employers to hire them. And he would require all
: employers to "hire American workers first" before seeking visas for
: immigrant labor. (Some employers seeking visas have to attest that they've
: jumped through certain hoops to recruit Americans before petitioning for the

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f**s
发帖数: 138
21
搜到的其中Jeff投票的记录, 对中国移民群体很可怕吗?
Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work.
Voted YES on visas for skilled workers.
Voted YES on limit welfare for immigrants.
This amendment would have restored food stamp benefits to the children of
legal immigrants
他否定全面移改,否定给非移social security. 觉得他就是典型支持合法移民反对非
法移民的思路?

【在 l*********d 的大作中提到】
: 还没理解的同学们可以放狗搜下
: “Senator Jeff Sessions”
: 看看这老哥以前都鼓吹什么移民政策来着。

d***d
发帖数: 310
22
要是高升不管移民这块也好

【在 o******t 的大作中提到】
: 这主据说要在老流氓的内阁中获得重要职位。
x**8
发帖数: 1939
23
好像要当department of homeland security的头,
移民uscis都归他管,

【在 d***d 的大作中提到】
: 要是高升不管移民这块也好
F****n
发帖数: 3271
24
别做梦了,美国反对移民的人会像你一样花功夫区分“非法”“合法”?
他们反的是所有移民,之所以强调非法,是因为反非法更顺理成章而已
看这个
America needs to curb immigration flows
Jeff Sessions
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/slow-the-immigration-wave/2015/04/09
/c6d8e3d4-dd52-11e4-a500-1c5bb1d8ff6a_story.html

【在 f**s 的大作中提到】
: 搜到的其中Jeff投票的记录, 对中国移民群体很可怕吗?
: Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work.
: Voted YES on visas for skilled workers.
: Voted YES on limit welfare for immigrants.
: This amendment would have restored food stamp benefits to the children of
: legal immigrants
: 他否定全面移改,否定给非移social security. 觉得他就是典型支持合法移民反对非
: 法移民的思路?

d***d
发帖数: 310
25
拿要是他那么反对移民,还要uscis干吗?那他也就没工作了

【在 x**8 的大作中提到】
: 好像要当department of homeland security的头,
: 移民uscis都归他管,

F****n
发帖数: 3271
26
呵呵,你要是仔细看看历史
就不难理解了。这些红脖反对的是亚非拉移民
他们secretly是希望 increase the number of white Christian immigrants from
Northern and Western Europe

【在 d***d 的大作中提到】
: 拿要是他那么反对移民,还要uscis干吗?那他也就没工作了
l**c
发帖数: 360
27
uscis是管理移民的,就算彻底不接受移民(当然这是不可能的,至少要允许美国公民
的外国配偶办绿卡吧),它还要管理已经在美国的移民啊。

【在 d***d 的大作中提到】
: 拿要是他那么反对移民,还要uscis干吗?那他也就没工作了
y******i
发帖数: 558
28
You sure it's Jeff Session not Jeff Flake?
Both are republicans, but Jeff Flake is way more friendlier to immigration
than Session.

【在 f**s 的大作中提到】
: 搜到的其中Jeff投票的记录, 对中国移民群体很可怕吗?
: Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work.
: Voted YES on visas for skilled workers.
: Voted YES on limit welfare for immigrants.
: This amendment would have restored food stamp benefits to the children of
: legal immigrants
: 他否定全面移改,否定给非移social security. 觉得他就是典型支持合法移民反对非
: 法移民的思路?

b*****4
发帖数: 337
29
晕倒,一个人反对移民就可以取消移民局?美国可能随时取消合法职业移民,但是偷渡
的 政治庇护的 婚姻的 家庭的都不可能取消,这就是现实
F********r
发帖数: 1748
30
哈哈。
这两个可差了老鼻子远了。Jeff Flake移民之友,综合移改sponsor。
另外一个赛西施则是参议院反移民第一斗士。没人比他更反移民。
trackitt上烙印现在也很担心赛西施要做移民局头子。

【在 y******i 的大作中提到】
: You sure it's Jeff Session not Jeff Flake?
: Both are republicans, but Jeff Flake is way more friendlier to immigration
: than Session.

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y******i
发帖数: 558
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Reportedly, he might be secretary of defense instead of homeland security
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/who-is-in-president-trump-cabinet-231071
It's still too early to tell what kind of role he will play to be honest.

【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈。
: 这两个可差了老鼻子远了。Jeff Flake移民之友,综合移改sponsor。
: 另外一个赛西施则是参议院反移民第一斗士。没人比他更反移民。
: trackitt上烙印现在也很担心赛西施要做移民局头子。

x**8
发帖数: 1939
32
从赛老的文章摘要几句:
Legal immigration is the primary source of low-wage immigration into the
United States.
What we need now is immigration moderation: slowing the pace of new arrivals
so that wages can rise, welfare rolls can shrink and the forces of
assimilation can knit us all more closely together.
以下是赛老的全文:
Jeff Sessions, a Republican from Alabama, is chairman of the Senate
Judiciary Committee’s immigration subcommittee.
It is time for an honest discussion of immigration.
The first “great wave” of U.S. immigration took place from roughly 1880 to
1930. During this time, according to the Census Bureau, the foreign-born
population doubled from about 6.7 million to 14.2 million people. Changes
were then made to immigration law to reduce admissions, decreasing the
foreign-born population until it fell to about 9.6 million by 1970.
Meanwhile, during this low-immigration period, real median compensation for
U.S. workers surged, increasing more than 90 percent from 1948 to 1973,
according to the Economic Policy Institute.
In the 1960s, Congress lifted immigration caps and ushered in a “second
great wave.” The foreign-born population more than quadrupled, to more than
40 million today.
This ongoing wave coincides with a period of middle-class contraction. The
Pew Research Center reports: “The share of adults who live in middle-income
households has eroded over time, from 61% in 1970 to 51% in 2013.” Harvard
economist George Borjas has estimated that high immigration from 1980 to
2000 reduced the wages of lower-skilled U.S. workers by 7.4 percent — a
stunning drop — with particularly painful reductions for African American
workers. Weekly earnings today are lower than they were in 1973.
Yet each year, the United States adds another million mostly low-wage
permanent legal immigrants who can work, draw benefits and become voting
citizens. Legal immigration is the primary source of low-wage immigration
into the United States. In other words, as a matter of federal policy —
which can be adjusted at any time — millions of low-wage foreign workers
are legally made available to substitute for higher-paid Americans.
This federal policy continues at a time when robotics and computerization
are slashing demand for workers. One Oxford University professor estimates
that as many as half of all jobs will be automated in 20 years. We don
’t have enough jobs for our lower-skilled workers now. What sense does it
make to bring in millions more?
If no immigration curbs are enacted, the Census Bureau estimates that
another 14 million immigrants will come to the United States between
now and 2025. That means we will introduce a new population almost four
times larger than that of Los Angeles in just 10 years time.
The percentage of the country that is foreign-born is on track to rapidly
eclipse any previous historical peak and to continue rising. Imagine the
pressure this will put on wages, as well as schools, hospitals and many
other community resources.
It is not mainstream, but extreme, to continue surging immigration beyond
any historical precedent and to do so at a time when almost 1 in 4 Americans
age 25 to 54 does not have a job. What we need now is immigration
moderation: slowing the pace of new arrivals so that wages can rise, welfare
rolls can shrink and the forces of assimilation can knit us all more
closely together.
But high immigration rates help the financial elite (and the political elite
who receive their contributions) by keeping wages down and profits up. For
them, what’s not to like? That is why they have tried to enforce silence in
the face of public desire for immigration reductions. They have sought to
intimidate good and decent Americans into avoiding honest discussion of how
uncontrolled immigration impacts their lives.
But that dam is breaking. The elite consensus is crumbling — and the
enforced silence on this critical issue will end.

09

【在 F****n 的大作中提到】
: 别做梦了,美国反对移民的人会像你一样花功夫区分“非法”“合法”?
: 他们反的是所有移民,之所以强调非法,是因为反非法更顺理成章而已
: 看这个
: America needs to curb immigration flows
: Jeff Sessions
: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/slow-the-immigration-wave/2015/04/09
: /c6d8e3d4-dd52-11e4-a500-1c5bb1d8ff6a_story.html

L***8
发帖数: 95
33

打击ICC假h1b,就够美国本土人的了
你我中国的EB23都是货真价实的,以美国现在这一两代年轻人的尿性,还真竞争不了


: 看这个解读,没觉得会针对中国移民群体太多。相反像烙印那种ICC大量搬运,
各种通

: 过克扣H1B工资搬运的手段,会被整肃。中国新移民拿学位的比直接搬运的应该
要多吧。

: brought

: all

: the



【在 f**s 的大作中提到】
: 搜到的其中Jeff投票的记录, 对中国移民群体很可怕吗?
: Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work.
: Voted YES on visas for skilled workers.
: Voted YES on limit welfare for immigrants.
: This amendment would have restored food stamp benefits to the children of
: legal immigrants
: 他否定全面移改,否定给非移social security. 觉得他就是典型支持合法移民反对非
: 法移民的思路?

L***8
发帖数: 95
34

打击ICC假h1b,就够美国本土人的了
你我中国的EB23都是货真价实的,以美国现在这一两代年轻人的尿性,还真竞争不了


: 看这个解读,没觉得会针对中国移民群体太多。相反像烙印那种ICC大量搬运,
各种通

: 过克扣H1B工资搬运的手段,会被整肃。中国新移民拿学位的比直接搬运的应该
要多吧。

: brought

: all

: the



【在 f**s 的大作中提到】
: 搜到的其中Jeff投票的记录, 对中国移民群体很可怕吗?
: Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work.
: Voted YES on visas for skilled workers.
: Voted YES on limit welfare for immigrants.
: This amendment would have restored food stamp benefits to the children of
: legal immigrants
: 他否定全面移改,否定给非移social security. 觉得他就是典型支持合法移民反对非
: 法移民的思路?

a*****a
发帖数: 1385
35
难道格老都不如他反移民?

【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈。
: 这两个可差了老鼻子远了。Jeff Flake移民之友,综合移改sponsor。
: 另外一个赛西施则是参议院反移民第一斗士。没人比他更反移民。
: trackitt上烙印现在也很担心赛西施要做移民局头子。

F********r
发帖数: 1748
36
给你举个例子。
综合移改的时候赛西施要加一条amendment,就是连旅游签证和学生签证也要每年配额。
格老表示实在太激进,投了反对票。

【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】
: 难道格老都不如他反移民?
F****n
发帖数: 3271
37
格老不如赛西施远亦!
赛西施极端到什么程度?
他认为美国公民的亲属移民都应该受限制

【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】
: 难道格老都不如他反移民?
k*****k
发帖数: 500
38
trump关于legal immigration的施政方案,自己琢磨去吧
"Reform Legal immigration to Serve the Best Interests of America and its
Workers"
c******3
发帖数: 6509
39
感觉这个没啥影响啊,反而降低排期时间
B2都是10年,提前拿到就完事了,总不至于限制每年入境人数吧。
当然,我是没学位直接H1B过来的,可能看法不同

额。

【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: 给你举个例子。
: 综合移改的时候赛西施要加一条amendment,就是连旅游签证和学生签证也要每年配额。
: 格老表示实在太激进,投了反对票。

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