s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 1 Visited several clients recently, they are mostly small to medium hi-tech
startups (less than 100 employees), their business depend on Internet, you
would imaging they all should have an IT team to handle all aspects of IT,
voice/email/VPN/application servers/archieve etc etc... not so, none of them
have a dedicated IT team, at all. In their work place all they have is a
access router with simple NAT/firewall functionality and a bunch of cheap L2
switches, their data center is in the cloud (one |
L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 2 When a startup grows up, an IT team will be grown.
them
L2
or
with
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: Visited several clients recently, they are mostly small to medium hi-tech
: startups (less than 100 employees), their business depend on Internet, you
: would imaging they all should have an IT team to handle all aspects of IT,
: voice/email/VPN/application servers/archieve etc etc... not so, none of them
: have a dedicated IT team, at all. In their work place all they have is a
: access router with simple NAT/firewall functionality and a bunch of cheap L2
: switches, their data center is in the cloud (one
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 3 this is very popular for SMB, but why do you want to work as a Network
engineer for a SMB? They don't have networks ...
them
L2
or
with
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: Visited several clients recently, they are mostly small to medium hi-tech
: startups (less than 100 employees), their business depend on Internet, you
: would imaging they all should have an IT team to handle all aspects of IT,
: voice/email/VPN/application servers/archieve etc etc... not so, none of them
: have a dedicated IT team, at all. In their work place all they have is a
: access router with simple NAT/firewall functionality and a bunch of cheap L2
: switches, their data center is in the cloud (one
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s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 4 Why? technically I don't, but big portion of our revenue comes from SMB.
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: this is very popular for SMB, but why do you want to work as a Network
: engineer for a SMB? They don't have networks ...
:
: them
: L2
: or
: with
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c*a
发帖数: 806 | 5 This is called managed services. It's a business opportunity for you
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: Why? technically I don't, but big portion of our revenue comes from SMB.
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s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 6 Well, we are not cloud provider, cloud providers are taking our business
away.Network jobs are shrinking, consolidating and shifting upstream. ;-( |
e**********w
发帖数: 117 | 7 then it just people get more chance to work for bigger fishes, the ones
having a big data center, such as amzn
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: Well, we are not cloud provider, cloud providers are taking our business
: away.Network jobs are shrinking, consolidating and shifting upstream. ;-(
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s******v
发帖数: 4495 | 8 good point。不过这种转型，只是把smb的it工作转到cloud provider那边去，随着工
作机会也就转到那边去了，当然数量在工程中减少了，因为效率提高了，但不是消亡了。
相反，人们更加依赖网络了，会把更多的东西放到网络上，总体是提高了对network
engineers的要求。
them
L2
or
with
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: Visited several clients recently, they are mostly small to medium hi-tech
: startups (less than 100 employees), their business depend on Internet, you
: would imaging they all should have an IT team to handle all aspects of IT,
: voice/email/VPN/application servers/archieve etc etc... not so, none of them
: have a dedicated IT team, at all. In their work place all they have is a
: access router with simple NAT/firewall functionality and a bunch of cheap L2
: switches, their data center is in the cloud (one
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s******v
发帖数: 4495 | 9 我仔细想了想，你观察是对的，但是结论是太悲观。
按你的说法，cloud computing只是把各个公司里面的data center/server/network/
application全部搬到cloud里面，公司只需要一个WAN connection和简单的access
switch，是不需要IT team，
不过这不是说这些人不要了，而是全部outsource到cloud provider去了，只是你的工
作应该是去那边去找，就算效率提高了，总需求人数减少了，
但是另外一个方面，以前很多traffic是internal的，现在全部搬到wan + internet上
，对network要求更高，对network engineer是好事。
them
L2
or
with
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: Visited several clients recently, they are mostly small to medium hi-tech
: startups (less than 100 employees), their business depend on Internet, you
: would imaging they all should have an IT team to handle all aspects of IT,
: voice/email/VPN/application servers/archieve etc etc... not so, none of them
: have a dedicated IT team, at all. In their work place all they have is a
: access router with simple NAT/firewall functionality and a bunch of cheap L2
: switches, their data center is in the cloud (one
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r******y
发帖数: 3838 | 10 干什么民用纯技术都比较悲观。
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】
: 我仔细想了想，你观察是对的，但是结论是太悲观。
: 按你的说法，cloud computing只是把各个公司里面的data center/server/network/
: application全部搬到cloud里面，公司只需要一个WAN connection和简单的access
: switch，是不需要IT team，
: 不过这不是说这些人不要了，而是全部outsource到cloud provider去了，只是你的工
: 作应该是去那边去找，就算效率提高了，总需求人数减少了，
: 但是另外一个方面，以前很多traffic是internal的，现在全部搬到wan + internet上
: ，对network要求更高，对network engineer是好事。
:
: them
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he
发帖数: 2025 | 11 嘿嘿，技术公司只是市场的一部分，甚至可以说一小部分吧。
我们这里的客户基本都有专职的技术支持部门，有大有小，典型的如金融行业，大中院
校，地方政
府，制造业..... 我感觉特别是学校和地方政府，纯粹“人傻钱多速来”类型的，大多
数不懂，少数
装着懂实际上两句话就露怯，极个别的真懂行。这些人都还有饭碗，怕啥。
tech
you
IT,
of them
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cheap L2
grow
voice, or
with
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: Visited several clients recently, they are mostly small to medium hi-tech
: startups (less than 100 employees), their business depend on Internet, you
: would imaging they all should have an IT team to handle all aspects of IT,
: voice/email/VPN/application servers/archieve etc etc... not so, none of them
: have a dedicated IT team, at all. In their work place all they have is a
: access router with simple NAT/firewall functionality and a bunch of cheap L2
: switches, their data center is in the cloud (one
|
z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 12 新公司怎么样？
【在 he 的大作中提到】
: 嘿嘿，技术公司只是市场的一部分，甚至可以说一小部分吧。
: 我们这里的客户基本都有专职的技术支持部门，有大有小，典型的如金融行业，大中院
: 校，地方政
: 府，制造业..... 我感觉特别是学校和地方政府，纯粹“人傻钱多速来”类型的，大多
: 数不懂，少数
: 装着懂实际上两句话就露怯，极个别的真懂行。这些人都还有饭碗，怕啥。
:
: tech
: you
: IT,
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he
发帖数: 2025 | 13 挺有意思的，我以前觉得不重要或者碰不上所以偷懒滑过去的地方，每样都得吃二遍苦
受二茬罪再捡回
来，越不想碰什么,倒霉客户就专挑这上面出问题。
您了什么时候来我这里出差?
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: 新公司怎么样？
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 14 估计客户也跟你有同样的想法，所以不感兴趣的东西就容易出问题。其实大家都这样。
你还在芝加哥？去那里出差机会比较少啊
【在 he 的大作中提到】
: 挺有意思的，我以前觉得不重要或者碰不上所以偷懒滑过去的地方，每样都得吃二遍苦
: 受二茬罪再捡回
: 来，越不想碰什么,倒霉客户就专挑这上面出问题。
: 您了什么时候来我这里出差?
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S******0
发帖数: 227 | 15 我忍不住笑了，哈哈。是另一个方面，
这几天正好换工作，简单的要命的工作里，人事就成堆。
你如果对某类型的人不感兴趣，胆敢忽视，他就一定找问题给你。
我就琢磨，大概任何一个人心理都有一把锁，如果总能找到钥匙，
就好了。大部分人的思维方式是“明白我的人，就是明白人”
清理心态，学习功课。
遍苦
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: 估计客户也跟你有同样的想法，所以不感兴趣的东西就容易出问题。其实大家都这样。
: 你还在芝加哥？去那里出差机会比较少啊
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s*******8
发帖数: 12734 | 16 每一次技术的更新都会带来大量的人员失业，但是可以推动行业的进步，刺激用户的需
求，然后人员再就业，大部分时候，人员只是从一个公司到另一个公司。
BTW，PSTN for voice is quite expensive， and IP solution is not easy as it
looks like。 |
