x*****r
发帖数: 6 | 1 how about to work in this project?
any potential in future? |
L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 2 Does it require a receiver box to decode the stream content? Or simply watch
on computer? |
z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 3 不知道你要哪方面的细节？你可以把你感兴趣的列出来，大家这里一起讨论 |
v**n
发帖数: 951 | 4 which part of the IPTV you are working on?
There are too many discussions about IPTV online. you can find some at
lightreading and heavy reading.
【在 x*****r 的大作中提到】
: how about to work in this project?
: any potential in future?
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c*******o
发帖数: 1722 | 5 为什么？技术上有突破？
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: 不知道你要哪方面的细节？你可以把你感兴趣的列出来，大家这里一起讨论
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 6 技术上不能说是突破，主要是killer application以及business model最重要，当然技术
上也很新
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 为什么？技术上有突破？
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 7 Pretty promising.
【在 x*****r 的大作中提到】
: how about to work in this project?
: any potential in future?
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c*******o
发帖数: 1722 | 8 这个ＩＰＴＶ好像是很热，ＬＰ公司做ＴＥＬＣＯＭ咨询的
在ＢＥＬＬ ＳＯＵＴＨ和ＡＴＴ合并中也提到。你能不能
说说细节，你在这个行业，懂的细节多。
我看了些文章，有些概念不清楚。传统上怎么区分ＣＡＢＬＥ
和ＴＥＬＣＯＭ，文章里看好ＣＡＢＬＥ，好像是因为它的硬
件好，ＴＥＬＣＯＭ里只有ＶＥＲＩＺＯＮ被看好，应为只有
ＶＥＲＩＺＯＮ有计划和资金建自己的ＢＡＣＫＢＯＮＥ
ＯＰＴＩＣＳ。
术
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: 技术上不能说是突破，主要是killer application以及business model最重要，当然技术
: 上也很新
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 9 技术上不能说是突破，主要是killer application以及business model最重要，当然技术
上也很新
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 为什么？技术上有突破？
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 10 If I order both HTDV & VoD from Comcast, how many boxes I need to stack, one
or two? |
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c*******o
发帖数: 1722 | 11 very nice. this info. is good.
sectors |
c*******o
发帖数: 1722 | 12 我就感兴趣，但是不知道对什么感兴趣。
知道前几年ＦＩＢＥＲ是彻底垮了，借ＩＰＴＶ的东风，有死灰复燃
的迹象。是不是ＴＥＬＥＣＯＭ和ＣＡＢＬＥ都会收购或者建自己的
ＦＩＢＥＲ ＢＡＣＫＢＯＮＥ。美国现在有ＦＩＢＥＲ的最大的两个
公司ＢＲＯＡＤＷＩＮＧ，ＱＷＥＳＴ因此很被看好，不知道他们能跑
多远。会不会再像几年前的泡沫。
你做技术的，讲讲技术细节吧，软件硬件都成。从最基础的开始。
是不是没啥新东西，就把电影，电视往网络上传。也可以往手机上传。
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: 不知道你要哪方面的细节？你可以把你感兴趣的列出来，大家这里一起讨论
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 13 Cable is of much higher bandwidth than twisted-pair phone line, so the most
promising media for IP high bandwidth services.
Fibre is super as well, but will cost a fortune to deploy the infrastructure.
So only big one like Verizon may be able to afford it.
This has been talked about a decade ago. Nothing new.
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: 不知道你要哪方面的细节？你可以把你感兴趣的列出来，大家这里一起讨论
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c*a
发帖数: 806 | 14 I think there are two groups here
Cable : Comcast, TimeWarner/Adelphia, Cox, and other small ones
Cable TV (traditional, even with digital)
VoIP (packetCable.com?)
Internet (Data) speed surely higher than dsl, but similar to FIOS
Telecom: Verizon/MCI, ATT/SBC/BLS
IPTV (most use Microsoft product?)
Internet (DSL not so good in most places, FIOS is an exception)
PSTN: (shrinking?)
Anyone has access to gartner? they should have nice pie chart of these
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: Cable is of much higher bandwidth than twisted-pair phone line, so the most
: promising media for IP high bandwidth services.
: Fibre is super as well, but will cost a fortune to deploy the infrastructure.
: So only big one like Verizon may be able to afford it.
: This has been talked about a decade ago. Nothing new.
|
z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 15 不知道你要哪方面的细节？你可以把你感兴趣的列出来，大家这里一起讨论
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 这个ＩＰＴＶ好像是很热，ＬＰ公司做ＴＥＬＣＯＭ咨询的
: 在ＢＥＬＬ ＳＯＵＴＨ和ＡＴＴ合并中也提到。你能不能
: 说说细节，你在这个行业，懂的细节多。
: 我看了些文章，有些概念不清楚。传统上怎么区分ＣＡＢＬＥ
: 和ＴＥＬＣＯＭ，文章里看好ＣＡＢＬＥ，好像是因为它的硬
: 件好，ＴＥＬＣＯＭ里只有ＶＥＲＩＺＯＮ被看好，应为只有
: ＶＥＲＩＺＯＮ有计划和资金建自己的ＢＡＣＫＢＯＮＥ
: ＯＰＴＩＣＳ。
:
: 术
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 16 I would consider IPTV is an evolution of data network industry
【在 x*****r 的大作中提到】
: how about to work in this project?
: any potential in future?
|
z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 17 技术上不能说是突破，主要是killer application以及business model最重要，当然技术
上也很新
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 为什么？技术上有突破？
|
z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 18 Broadwing跟qwest是最大的两家有dark fiber的公司？俺倒不知道这个。
telecom一般都有自己的backbone，cable公司一般都很分散，零乱，有自己backbone的据
俺所知只有comcast一家。
iptv虽然没有什么特别新的技术，但是涵盖的面非常广，从运营结构上看，有super head
-end, CO/VSO，super headend主要做传统的headend的活，最重要的就是encoding，同时
进行multicast tv programes，一套iptv网可能只有1个，或者最多2个（座reduntancy）
，vso做的事情比较杂，最重要的可能就是VoD了，都是unicast的traffic
从component方面看，主要分application, service, and network，每个layer都有很多
东西在里面，俺是搞网络的，所以最关心的是network，也略微了解一点service，至于
application就不关俺的事情了。
大致说了这么些，大家可以把每个东西都拿出来讨论
我知
=>niceboy (Thu
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 我就感兴趣，但是不知道对什么感兴趣。
: 知道前几年ＦＩＢＥＲ是彻底垮了，借ＩＰＴＶ的东风，有死灰复燃
: 的迹象。是不是ＴＥＬＥＣＯＭ和ＣＡＢＬＥ都会收购或者建自己的
: ＦＩＢＥＲ ＢＡＣＫＢＯＮＥ。美国现在有ＦＩＢＥＲ的最大的两个
: 公司ＢＲＯＡＤＷＩＮＧ，ＱＷＥＳＴ因此很被看好，不知道他们能跑
: 多远。会不会再像几年前的泡沫。
: 你做技术的，讲讲技术细节吧，软件硬件都成。从最基础的开始。
: 是不是没啥新东西，就把电影，电视往网络上传。也可以往手机上传。
|
Q*******e
发帖数: 939 | 19 Seems good,
but I did not touch it yet :)
Start searching...............................
【在 x*****r 的大作中提到】
: how about to work in this project?
: any potential in future?
|
c*******o
发帖数: 1722 | 20 what are the typical cable companies? Time warnar?
There is business overlap between cable companies and telecom.
they both provide tel. and TV service, however, cable companies
have more of their customers to buy tel. service than telecom
have their customers to buy TV service. In this new IPTV area,
seems cable companies gonna win again. so, i am wondering where
the traditional telecom companies gonna go. maybe this is why
so many telecom merges recently.
.
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: Cable is of much higher bandwidth than twisted-pair phone line, so the most
: promising media for IP high bandwidth services.
: Fibre is super as well, but will cost a fortune to deploy the infrastructure.
: So only big one like Verizon may be able to afford it.
: This has been talked about a decade ago. Nothing new.
|
|
|
c*******o
发帖数: 1722 | 21 我就感兴趣，但是不知道对什么感兴趣。
知道前几年ＦＩＢＥＲ是彻底垮了，借ＩＰＴＶ的东风，有死灰复燃
的迹象。是不是ＴＥＬＥＣＯＭ和ＣＡＢＬＥ都会收购或者建自己的
ＦＩＢＥＲ ＢＡＣＫＢＯＮＥ。美国现在有ＦＩＢＥＲ的最大的两个
公司ＢＲＯＡＤＷＩＮＧ，ＱＷＥＳＴ因此很被看好，不知道他们能跑
多远。会不会再像几年前的泡沫。
你做技术的，讲讲技术细节吧，软件硬件都成。从最基础的开始。
是不是没啥新东西，就把电影，电视往网络上传。也可以往手机上传。
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: 不知道你要哪方面的细节？你可以把你感兴趣的列出来，大家这里一起讨论
|
c*******o
发帖数: 1722 | 22 这个ＩＰＴＶ好像是很热，ＬＰ公司做ＴＥＬＣＯＭ咨询的
在ＢＥＬＬ ＳＯＵＴＨ和ＡＴＴ合并中也提到。你能不能
说说细节，你在这个行业，懂的细节多。
我看了些文章，有些概念不清楚。传统上怎么区分ＣＡＢＬＥ
和ＴＥＬＣＯＭ，文章里看好ＣＡＢＬＥ，好像是因为它的硬
件好，ＴＥＬＣＯＭ里只有ＶＥＲＩＺＯＮ被看好，应为只有
ＶＥＲＩＺＯＮ有计划和资金建自己的ＢＡＣＫＢＯＮＥ
ＯＰＴＩＣＳ。
术
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: 技术上不能说是突破，主要是killer application以及business model最重要，当然技术
: 上也很新
|
c*******o
发帖数: 1722 | 23 what are the typical cable companies? Time warnar?
There is business overlap between cable companies and telecom.
they both provide tel. and TV service, however, cable companies
have more of their customers to buy tel. service than telecom
have their customers to buy TV service. In this new IPTV area,
seems cable companies gonna win again. so, i am wondering where
the traditional telecom companies gonna go. maybe this is why
so many telecom merges recently.
.
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: Cable is of much higher bandwidth than twisted-pair phone line, so the most
: promising media for IP high bandwidth services.
: Fibre is super as well, but will cost a fortune to deploy the infrastructure.
: So only big one like Verizon may be able to afford it.
: This has been talked about a decade ago. Nothing new.
|
c*******o
发帖数: 1722 | 24 what are the typical cable companies? Time warnar?
There is business overlap between cable companies and telecom.
they both provide tel. and TV service, however, cable companies
have more of their customers to buy tel. service than telecom
have their customers to buy TV service. In this new IPTV area,
seems cable companies gonna win again. so, i am wondering where
the traditional telecom companies gonna go. maybe this is why
so many telecom merges recently.
.
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: Cable is of much higher bandwidth than twisted-pair phone line, so the most
: promising media for IP high bandwidth services.
: Fibre is super as well, but will cost a fortune to deploy the infrastructure.
: So only big one like Verizon may be able to afford it.
: This has been talked about a decade ago. Nothing new.
|
z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 25 I would consider IPTV is an evolution of data network industry
【在 x*****r 的大作中提到】
: how about to work in this project?
: any potential in future?
|
z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 26 I would consider IPTV is an evolution of data network industry
【在 x*****r 的大作中提到】
: how about to work in this project?
: any potential in future?
|
c*******o
发帖数: 1722 | 27 为什么？技术上有突破？
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: I would consider IPTV is an evolution of data network industry
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 28 Comcast is the only big one I know.
Currently Telecom can hardly take biz from cable, the reverse is true. Telecom
is desperate finding a way to reach each home with fibre, like cable has been
able to with coaxial cable.
But mass deployment of IPTV service is still a far far call. Cable is yet to
go completely digital by 09? The techs have been there. What's missing is the
capital & the necessity of conversion.
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[08/18 03:41
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: what are the typical cable companies? Time warnar?
: There is business overlap between cable companies and telecom.
: they both provide tel. and TV service, however, cable companies
: have more of their customers to buy tel. service than telecom
: have their customers to buy TV service. In this new IPTV area,
: seems cable companies gonna win again. so, i am wondering where
: the traditional telecom companies gonna go. maybe this is why
: so many telecom merges recently.
:
: .
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p******h
发帖数: 1783 | 29 估计得有个类似tivo的东东吧
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: Does it require a receiver box to decode the stream content? Or simply watch
: on computer?
|
L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 30 Industry. Like zher said, a promising application that industry can use to
extort big $$$$$$$. |
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s********e
发帖数: 21 | 31 IPTV may be a good way telco companies try to survive. Otherwise, VoIP
companies can eat telco alive with VoIP. For end-users, the value proposition
of IPTV is not very clear. Compared to cable TV, not many extra service
features IPTV can offer. IPTV may be more economical and suitable for internal
broadcasting within small areas like hospitals, hotels, and airport. After
many years, when the fiber infrastruction is built, maybe it is cheaper for
telco to offer integrated VoIP, IPTV, and Interne
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: Broadwing跟qwest是最大的两家有dark fiber的公司？俺倒不知道这个。
: telecom一般都有自己的backbone，cable公司一般都很分散，零乱，有自己backbone的据
: 俺所知只有comcast一家。
: iptv虽然没有什么特别新的技术，但是涵盖的面非常广，从运营结构上看，有super head
: -end, CO/VSO，super headend主要做传统的headend的活，最重要的就是encoding，同时
: 进行multicast tv programes，一套iptv网可能只有1个，或者最多2个（座reduntancy）
: ，vso做的事情比较杂，最重要的可能就是VoD了，都是unicast的traffic
: 从component方面看，主要分application, service, and network，每个layer都有很多
: 东西在里面，俺是搞网络的，所以最关心的是network，也略微了解一点service，至于
: application就不关俺的事情了。
|
s********e
发帖数: 21 | 32 IPTV may be a good way telco companies try to survive. Otherwise, VoIP
companies can eat telco alive with VoIP. For end-users, the value proposition
of IPTV is not very clear. Compared to cable TV, not many extra service
features IPTV can offer. IPTV may be more economical and suitable for internal
broadcasting within small areas like hospitals, hotels, and airport. After
many years, when the fiber infrastruction is built, maybe it is cheaper for
telco to offer integrated VoIP, IPTV, and Interne
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: Broadwing跟qwest是最大的两家有dark fiber的公司？俺倒不知道这个。
: telecom一般都有自己的backbone，cable公司一般都很分散，零乱，有自己backbone的据
: 俺所知只有comcast一家。
: iptv虽然没有什么特别新的技术，但是涵盖的面非常广，从运营结构上看，有super head
: -end, CO/VSO，super headend主要做传统的headend的活，最重要的就是encoding，同时
: 进行multicast tv programes，一套iptv网可能只有1个，或者最多2个（座reduntancy）
: ，vso做的事情比较杂，最重要的可能就是VoD了，都是unicast的traffic
: 从component方面看，主要分application, service, and network，每个layer都有很多
: 东西在里面，俺是搞网络的，所以最关心的是network，也略微了解一点service，至于
: application就不关俺的事情了。
|
z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 33 Google买dark fiber就是做自己的enterprise backbone，这样做得google不是第一家，
也不会是最后一家，很多大规模的enterprise都有自己的dark fiber backbone，比如波
音，福特等等。波音的enterprise network的规模，比一般的ISP都要大，厚厚
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 为什么？技术上有突破？
|
c*******o
发帖数: 1722 | 34 support, if you can get them out, give me a copy. hehe....
summary
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: Google买dark fiber就是做自己的enterprise backbone，这样做得google不是第一家，
: 也不会是最后一家，很多大规模的enterprise都有自己的dark fiber backbone，比如波
: 音，福特等等。波音的enterprise network的规模，比一般的ISP都要大，厚厚
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