M*****e
发帖数: 4550 | 1 可不可以直接copy paste自己以前一作的paper呢？ |
M*****e
发帖数: 4550 | 2 嗯，我的意思是可不可以直接把自己发表的paper的intro部分拿来直接用在博士论文的
intro里面呢？ |
p****x
发帖数: 980 | 3 No.
Your doctoral dissertation is supposed to be UNPUBLISHED.
You may cite your previous papers, but you can not just cut and paste
part of your previous publications.
【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，我的意思是可不可以直接把自己发表的paper的intro部分拿来直接用在博士论文的
: intro里面呢？
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w****y
发帖数: 53 | |
gr
发帖数: 2958 | 5 啊？我每个chapter基本都是copy&paste我发的journal啊。
难道不行？
文的
【在 p****x 的大作中提到】
: No.
: Your doctoral dissertation is supposed to be UNPUBLISHED.
: You may cite your previous papers, but you can not just cut and paste
: part of your previous publications.
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a********u
发帖数: 1277 | 6 I don't know where you got this idea from.
Usually in the copyright statement of journal papers, there is an explicit
statement saying the published paper can be included in PhD dissertations
without the journal's permission.
【在 p****x 的大作中提到】
: No.
: Your doctoral dissertation is supposed to be UNPUBLISHED.
: You may cite your previous papers, but you can not just cut and paste
: part of your previous publications.
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d***a
发帖数: 13752 | 7 有些学校明文规定允许这样写。
【在 p****x 的大作中提到】
: No.
: Your doctoral dissertation is supposed to be UNPUBLISHED.
: You may cite your previous papers, but you can not just cut and paste
: part of your previous publications.
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p****x
发帖数: 980 | 8 I don't think you can cut and paste.
You need to cite yourself.
You may doublecheck with your advisor.
【在 gr 的大作中提到】
: 啊？我每个chapter基本都是copy&paste我发的journal啊。
: 难道不行？
:
: 文的
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p****x
发帖数: 980 | 9 "can be included",
I don't think you can "cut and paste".
I think you need to "cite yourself".
【在 a********u 的大作中提到】
: I don't know where you got this idea from.
: Usually in the copyright statement of journal papers, there is an explicit
: statement saying the published paper can be included in PhD dissertations
: without the journal's permission.
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gr
发帖数: 2958 | 10 我觉得很奇怪啊。
你发了那么多journal，难道写disseration的时候还不能用了？
真是怪事。
我怎么感觉我的前任都是这么干的。
explicit
dissertations
【在 p****x 的大作中提到】
: "can be included",
: I don't think you can "cut and paste".
: I think you need to "cite yourself".
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gr
发帖数: 2958 | 11 你这个can be include啥意思？
我引一篇文章的所有内容。然后chapter旁边放一个[45] 表示这章都是引的？
explicit
dissertations
【在 p****x 的大作中提到】
: "can be included",
: I don't think you can "cut and paste".
: I think you need to "cite yourself".
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a*****u
发帖数: 157 | 12 怎么会有发表过的不让用这种规定的。。。
那叫人怎么混，临毕业了突然再做篇200页的新东西出来？ |
gr
发帖数: 2958 | 13 就是啊，不知道他们啥意思。
而且博士论文又不发表。
【在 a*****u 的大作中提到】
: 怎么会有发表过的不让用这种规定的。。。
: 那叫人怎么混，临毕业了突然再做篇200页的新东西出来？
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l********e
发帖数: 264 | 14 你太搞笑了，一般只要给journal要一个permission for reuse of article就可以了，
一般杂志都会给这个permission，可以原文一字不差放在dissertation里，自己搞不清
楚还是别误导要毕业的同志
I don't think you can cut and paste.You need to cite yourself.You may
doublecheck with y........
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【在 p****x 的大作中提到】
: I don't think you can cut and paste.
: You need to cite yourself.
: You may doublecheck with your advisor.
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a*****u
发帖数: 157 | 15 我有问过老板这个问题，就是thesis可不可以和发表的论文是一样的。反正我老板的回
答是:it has to be the same. you need to change your introduction and
conclusion only.所以正文我大段大段从论文里贴过来，但是贴完后每章改改通顺也花
很多时间。
每个学校不一样吧，直接问你老板最好了。他最有发言权不是。
【在 gr 的大作中提到】
: 就是啊，不知道他们啥意思。
: 而且博士论文又不发表。
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gr
发帖数: 2958 | 16 就是，我也这么想。到时候截稿前问一声老板。
【在 a*****u 的大作中提到】
: 我有问过老板这个问题，就是thesis可不可以和发表的论文是一样的。反正我老板的回
: 答是:it has to be the same. you need to change your introduction and
: conclusion only.所以正文我大段大段从论文里贴过来，但是贴完后每章改改通顺也花
: 很多时间。
: 每个学校不一样吧，直接问你老板最好了。他最有发言权不是。
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M*****n
发帖数: 16729 | 17 as far as I know "yes, you can" |
F******n
发帖数: 346 | 18 You can ask the permission from the journal which you initially published
the paper. The journal will be happy to grant you the rights. |
p****x
发帖数: 980 | 19 I think "can be included" means you can cite yourself by paraphrasing it
and add in-text citation(e.g., Zhang, 2009).
【在 gr 的大作中提到】
: 你这个can be include啥意思？
: 我引一篇文章的所有内容。然后chapter旁边放一个[45] 表示这章都是引的？
:
: explicit
: dissertations
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p****x
发帖数: 980 | 20 I think "can be included" means you can cite yourself by paraphrasing it
and add in-text citation(e.g., Zhang, 2009).
It does not mean that you can not use your own publications.
It is just that you need to paraphrase it instead of "cut and paste".
But you might need to doublecheck with your advisor who is the boss in this
regard.
【在 a*****u 的大作中提到】
: 怎么会有发表过的不让用这种规定的。。。
: 那叫人怎么混，临毕业了突然再做篇200页的新东西出来？
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a*******e
发帖数: 245 | 21 你的回答是错的
当然可以copy／cut自己paper，虽然俺觉得最好还是自己修改一下。
【在 p****x 的大作中提到】
: I don't think you can cut and paste.
: You need to cite yourself.
: You may doublecheck with your advisor.
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w****y
发帖数: 53 | 22 这个是自己猜的？象这样的事情为什么自己都没有搞懂，就瞎说?
问两个问题，为什么不能直接用？palagerism? 难道rephrase it就不是了？
这个版上很多人自己就是advisors。问谁！？
this
【在 p****x 的大作中提到】
: I think "can be included" means you can cite yourself by paraphrasing it
: and add in-text citation(e.g., Zhang, 2009).
: It does not mean that you can not use your own publications.
: It is just that you need to paraphrase it instead of "cut and paste".
: But you might need to doublecheck with your advisor who is the boss in this
: regard.
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a********u
发帖数: 1277 | 23 The following citation should be able to close the debate, at least for IOP
journals (e.g., Nanotechnology).
"After the copyright in my article has transferred to IOP, may I still use
the article for teaching or in a thesis or dissertation?
Yes, the Assignment of Copyright document sets out the rights that IOP
authors retain in clause 3. These include copying the article (all or part)
for teaching purposes, and including the article (all or part) in research
theses or dissertations. These rights must be exercised for non-commercial
purposes. If possible citation information and IOP’s copyright notice
should be displayed and for electronic use best efforts must be made to
include a link to the online abstract in the journal."
How to find this paragraph?
-Go to http://iopscience.iop.org/0957-4484/
-Click "Authors"
-Click "Copyright FAQs"
I don't think "include" here means "rephrase."
【在 p****x 的大作中提到】
: I think "can be included" means you can cite yourself by paraphrasing it
: and add in-text citation(e.g., Zhang, 2009).
: It does not mean that you can not use your own publications.
: It is just that you need to paraphrase it instead of "cut and paste".
: But you might need to doublecheck with your advisor who is the boss in this
: regard.
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p****x
发帖数: 980 | 24 Just for your information.
You may use your published article without violating the copy right rules.
But you need to USE IT properly.
That is to say, you need to "paraphrase it" and CITE yourself (e.g. Zhang,
2009).
This is based on my own experience.
I published a paper in 2008 and I wanted to copy and paste part of it
in another paper in 2010.
I was told by the journal editor that I need to paraphrase it and cite
myself.
Maybe it is totally different in your field or your school.
I don't know about that.
Thats why you need to ask your own advisor.
IOP
)
【在 a********u 的大作中提到】
: The following citation should be able to close the debate, at least for IOP
: journals (e.g., Nanotechnology).
: "After the copyright in my article has transferred to IOP, may I still use
: the article for teaching or in a thesis or dissertation?
: Yes, the Assignment of Copyright document sets out the rights that IOP
: authors retain in clause 3. These include copying the article (all or part)
: for teaching purposes, and including the article (all or part) in research
: theses or dissertations. These rights must be exercised for non-commercial
: purposes. If possible citation information and IOP’s copyright notice
: should be displayed and for electronic use best efforts must be made to
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gr
发帖数: 2958 | 25 你情况跟大家不同吧。
你这是两篇journal，自然不能复制黏贴了。
大家关注的是journal变dissertation
use
part
research
commercial
【在 p****x 的大作中提到】
: Just for your information.
: You may use your published article without violating the copy right rules.
: But you need to USE IT properly.
: That is to say, you need to "paraphrase it" and CITE yourself (e.g. Zhang,
: 2009).
: This is based on my own experience.
: I published a paper in 2008 and I wanted to copy and paste part of it
: in another paper in 2010.
: I was told by the journal editor that I need to paraphrase it and cite
: myself.
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c*********3
发帖数: 197 | 26 有两种dissertation吧。
一种是传统意义上的。直接从journal照搬到dissertation是不允许的，是自我抄袭。
第二种portfolio形式的dissertation, 其实就是将自己在journal发表的文章，放在一
起 （串在一起），需要写点Intro之类的，如果和别人一起发表的文章，要说明那些自
己完成；最后写个总结什么的。不过不是每一个学校都接受第二种。 |
l********e
发帖数: 264 | 27 是啊，journal paper引用自己的文章大家都知道不能copy，但dissertation是不一样
的，跟什么专业没啥关系，有的人就是一根筋
你情况跟大家不同吧。你这是两篇journal，自然不能复制黏贴了。大家关注的是
journal变dissertation
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【在 gr 的大作中提到】
: 你情况跟大家不同吧。
: 你这是两篇journal，自然不能复制黏贴了。
: 大家关注的是journal变dissertation
:
: use
: part
: research
: commercial
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p****x
发帖数: 980 | 28 This makes sense.
1. "直接从journal照搬到dissertation是不允许的，是自我抄袭"
2. "不是每一个学校都接受第二种
portfolio形式的dissertation"
【在 c*********3 的大作中提到】
: 有两种dissertation吧。
: 一种是传统意义上的。直接从journal照搬到dissertation是不允许的，是自我抄袭。
: 第二种portfolio形式的dissertation, 其实就是将自己在journal发表的文章，放在一
: 起 （串在一起），需要写点Intro之类的，如果和别人一起发表的文章，要说明那些自
: 己完成；最后写个总结什么的。不过不是每一个学校都接受第二种。
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m******g
发帖数: 3924 | 29 很简单，问你们大学研究生院啊。 根据我了解的情况，美国绝大部分学校不能直接考
，要做修改，而且把引用标明。欧洲大部分学校是，面前致谢 ，然后literature
review,最后把自己的文章题目列出来，具体标明每篇文章的贡献，最后直接贴文章。 |
