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刘晓波赢了，改革输了
Liu Xiaobo wins Nobel, reform loses
China has many unsung heroes pushing for democracy. Their task gets harder w
hen the west rewards high-profile dissidents
o Nick Young
o guardian.co.uk, Friday 8 October 2010 20.30 BST
o Article history
Pro-democracy activists hold pictures of Chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo Pro-de
mocracy activists hold pictures of Chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo. Photograph:
Kin Cheung/AP
Liu Xiaobo, the jailed Chinese pro-democracy activist who has just been awar
ded a Nobel peace prize, is certainly a brave man, and his imprisonment is d
eplorable. But it is hard to see what contribution he has made to peace, in
China or beyond, or how this award will further peace.
Westerners are so dazzled – and yet, also so perturbed – by China's "rise"
that we easily overlook how painful and precarious its 30-year economic ref
orm and opening process has been. In many ways, the transition has been as p
rofound and as traumatic as the UK's 19th-century agrarian and industrial re
volutions, which were accomplished with little democracy and scant regard fo
r human rights. Yet most Chinese people remain relatively poor, with average
GNP per capita still lower in China than in many Latin American and African
countries.
In these circumstances, Chinese Communist party's fears of instability are n
ot stupid and the attempt to impose "harmony" by decree is not irrational. W
hile it remains decidedly authoritarian and determined to nip all opposition
movements in the bud, Communist party rule has become much more consultativ
e over the last 20 years. Non-party intellectuals and special-interest group
s have been allowed a voice in policy debate; and there has been gradual rec
ognition of the need for "civil society" organisations, such as the Chinese
NGOs currently participating in the Tianjin climate change talks.
The line between permissible activism and "unpatriotic" dissidence is never
clear in China, and is prone to shift according to the political mood of the
moment. This naturally encourages self-censorship and caution.
But there are many unsung heroes – within the Communist party and "official
" media, as well as among NGOs and the academy – who are working for increm
ental political reform, increased "public participation", greater economic a
nd social equality and negotiated compromise between competing interests in
the complex and stratified society that is developing. These are China's rea
l peacemakers. They typically eschew the adversarial approach of activists l
ike Liu – whose Charter 08 movement threw a gauntlet down to the authoritie
s – not out of fear, but because they feel there are more constructive ways
to achieve peaceful change in the Chinese social, cultural and political co
ntext.
The Nobel award will embolden those in China who are most inclined to confro
ntational tactics. It may well also prompt renewed state security surveillan
ce of reform-minded academics and NGOs, which may, in turn, nudge some more
of them over the line from pro-reform advocacy to outright dissidence.
Beyond doubt, though, it will strengthen the argument, within China, that th
e west is determined to derail China's progress by promoting internal strife
.
It would be a grave mistake to think that this is believed only by old, die-
hard Marxists, militarists and proto-fascist nationalists. Many educated you
ng Chinese people, who are perfectly capable of thinking for themselves and
are, by no means, stooges of the Communist party, are highly sceptical of we
stern prescriptions for China, and want to find a distinctively Chinese, per
haps "Confucian", form of democratisation. Those who have studied in the wes
t, and had a chance to see our warts as well as our freedoms, are among the
least inclined to believe that westernisation is the right road for China.
Symbolic gestures such as the Nobel award for Liu help to persuade such youn
g people, who will be China's next generation of political and business lead
ers, that the west really is fundamentally anti-Chinese and determined to ke
ep China down. And that heightened tension is likely to prolong, not shorten
, the Communist party's rule: a strange harvest for a prize given in the nam
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: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/08/liu-xiaobo-china
: 刘晓波赢了，改革输了
: Liu Xiaobo wins Nobel, reform loses
: China has many unsung heroes pushing for democracy. Their task gets harder w
: hen the west rewards high-profile dissidents
: o Nick Young
: o guardian.co.uk, Friday 8 October 2010 20.30 BST
: o Article history
: Pro-democracy activists hold pictures of Chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo Pro-de
: mocracy activists hold pictures of Chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo. Photograph:
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他看出海外小将多
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: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/08/liu-xiaobo-china
: 刘晓波赢了，改革输了
: Liu Xiaobo wins Nobel, reform loses
: China has many unsung heroes pushing for democracy. Their task gets harder w
: hen the west rewards high-profile dissidents
: o Nick Young
: o guardian.co.uk, Friday 8 October 2010 20.30 BST
: o Article history
: Pro-democracy activists hold pictures of Chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo Pro-de
: mocracy activists hold pictures of Chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo. Photograph:
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Harry2010
8 October 2010 9:12PM
Gotta agree. Great article. No knee jerk response like probably most if not
all the other articles out there.
This guy has done NOTHING to help the people in China get away from poverty
and neglect. I'd like to drop him in some "democratic" country like India or
the Philippines, where people live in the streets and forage in large
masses among the dumpsters, so he can find out that democracy doesn't feed
anyone. |
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