l*****i
发帖数: 20533 | 1 美国专家认为中国的隐身飞机就是‘见面不如闻名’
CNN-Just how good is China's new 'stealth' fighter?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/china-stealth-fighter-
“The MiG official may be correct. An aircraft of this type designed with
Russian assistance would probably perform better.
The FC-31's flight routine shows that it "bleeds" too much energy -- so when
it enters into a turn it begins to lose altitude. Even during straight and
level flight the pilot has to engage the engine's afterburners in order to
keep the aircraft from sinking to a lower altitude. These are defects in the
aircraft's aerodynamic design that a Russian design team would not have
made.
Western aerospace analysts point out that the FC-31 flown at Zhuhai is a "
clean" jet in that it is not armed, which means that an aircraft configured
for a real mission and fitted with weapons would be even heavier and would
perform even worse.
.......
Many would have been more impressed by the FC-31 in photos posted on Chinese
websites than after seeing it actually fly at the air show.
Looks can be deceiving, as they say.” |
C**********e
发帖数: 23303 | |
s*********y
发帖数: 292 | 3 J31的主要作用是搅和肥电的外销
美国专家要是认为J31好那就怪了……
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【在 l*****i 的大作中提到】
: 美国专家认为中国的隐身飞机就是‘见面不如闻名’
: CNN-Just how good is China's new 'stealth' fighter?
: http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/china-stealth-fighter-
: “The MiG official may be correct. An aircraft of this type designed with
: Russian assistance would probably perform better.
: The FC-31's flight routine shows that it "bleeds" too much energy -- so when
: it enters into a turn it begins to lose altitude. Even during straight and
: level flight the pilot has to engage the engine's afterburners in order to
: keep the aircraft from sinking to a lower altitude. These are defects in the
: aircraft's aerodynamic design that a Russian design team would not have
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w*****n
发帖数: 680 | |
s*x
发帖数: 8041 | 5 re
【在 s*********y 的大作中提到】
: J31的主要作用是搅和肥电的外销
: 美国专家要是认为J31好那就怪了……
:
: when
: and
: the
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l**p
发帖数: 6080 | 6 擦
不开加力平飞都会往下掉
尼玛这专家是呆湾来的？
【在 l*****i 的大作中提到】
: 美国专家认为中国的隐身飞机就是‘见面不如闻名’
: CNN-Just how good is China's new 'stealth' fighter?
: http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/china-stealth-fighter-
: “The MiG official may be correct. An aircraft of this type designed with
: Russian assistance would probably perform better.
: The FC-31's flight routine shows that it "bleeds" too much energy -- so when
: it enters into a turn it begins to lose altitude. Even during straight and
: level flight the pilot has to engage the engine's afterburners in order to
: keep the aircraft from sinking to a lower altitude. These are defects in the
: aircraft's aerodynamic design that a Russian design team would not have
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y***i
发帖数: 11639 | 7 不算不正常。沈飞还没创造出什么靠谱的东西。
when
and
the
【在 l*****i 的大作中提到】
: 美国专家认为中国的隐身飞机就是‘见面不如闻名’
: CNN-Just how good is China's new 'stealth' fighter?
: http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/china-stealth-fighter-
: “The MiG official may be correct. An aircraft of this type designed with
: Russian assistance would probably perform better.
: The FC-31's flight routine shows that it "bleeds" too much energy -- so when
: it enters into a turn it begins to lose altitude. Even during straight and
: level flight the pilot has to engage the engine's afterburners in order to
: keep the aircraft from sinking to a lower altitude. These are defects in the
: aircraft's aerodynamic design that a Russian design team would not have
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L*********2
发帖数: 10195 | 8 估计本版我党的五毛没一个看过现役f-22表演的。。。。 |
v**e
发帖数: 8422 | 9 老将真是井底之蛙
北墨国每年各地飞行表演很多的
想看F22可以看到吐
【在 L*********2 的大作中提到】
: 估计本版我党的五毛没一个看过现役f-22表演的。。。。
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w*********a
发帖数: 9279 | 10 别说F-22了。 本党的五毛连J31表演的视频也没几个看过的。
【在 L*********2 的大作中提到】
: 估计本版我党的五毛没一个看过现役f-22表演的。。。。
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s******d
发帖数: 9806 | 11 主要是601的tracking record比较差。这飞机要是611出的，早就被地青们吹上天了。
when
and
the
【在 l*****i 的大作中提到】
: 美国专家认为中国的隐身飞机就是‘见面不如闻名’
: CNN-Just how good is China's new 'stealth' fighter?
: http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/china-stealth-fighter-
: “The MiG official may be correct. An aircraft of this type designed with
: Russian assistance would probably perform better.
: The FC-31's flight routine shows that it "bleeds" too much energy -- so when
: it enters into a turn it begins to lose altitude. Even during straight and
: level flight the pilot has to engage the engine's afterburners in order to
: keep the aircraft from sinking to a lower altitude. These are defects in the
: aircraft's aerodynamic design that a Russian design team would not have
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U***1
发帖数: 407 | 12 如果是一转弯，就掉高度，非人为的话，说明这发动机推力不够。不过不是双发RD93吗
？怎么还不够？难道是J31空重很大，拉低了推重比？
when
and
the
【在 l*****i 的大作中提到】
: 美国专家认为中国的隐身飞机就是‘见面不如闻名’
: CNN-Just how good is China's new 'stealth' fighter?
: http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/china-stealth-fighter-
: “The MiG official may be correct. An aircraft of this type designed with
: Russian assistance would probably perform better.
: The FC-31's flight routine shows that it "bleeds" too much energy -- so when
: it enters into a turn it begins to lose altitude. Even during straight and
: level flight the pilot has to engage the engine's afterburners in order to
: keep the aircraft from sinking to a lower altitude. These are defects in the
: aircraft's aerodynamic design that a Russian design team would not have
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l*******1
发帖数: 16217 | 13 J-31气动外形不错，等把隐身涂料和发动机都偷来，就齐活了 |
L*********2
发帖数: 10195 | 14 哟，既然你看过，有没有比较啊？这上面说的是不是真的？f22是不是出场也象烧劈柴
的似的？转向，加速，爬高怎么样？
别忘了，那是我美20年前的玩意。臭美啥啊？这还是用了老毛子的发动机。自己的还拿
不出台面呢。
【在 v**e 的大作中提到】
: 老将真是井底之蛙
: 北墨国每年各地飞行表演很多的
: 想看F22可以看到吐
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v**e
发帖数: 8422 | 15 醒醒，这是北墨国的CNN
会夸竞争对手独裁国军事上顶级武器？
【在 s******d 的大作中提到】
: 主要是601的tracking record比较差。这飞机要是611出的，早就被地青们吹上天了。
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: when
: and
: the
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U***1
发帖数: 407 | 16 偷？
隐身涂料不是J20有现成的吗？发动机为J-31准备的是自研的WS13。
【在 l*******1 的大作中提到】
: J-31气动外形不错，等把隐身涂料和发动机都偷来，就齐活了
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m*t
发帖数: 7490 | 17 这你也信？网上随便找一下视频就知道是假的了
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpoOSjBZ3d4
这里面从助跑到拉起，总共12秒
【在 U***1 的大作中提到】
: 如果是一转弯，就掉高度，非人为的话，说明这发动机推力不够。不过不是双发RD93吗
: ？怎么还不够？难道是J31空重很大，拉低了推重比？
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: when
: and
: the
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U***1
发帖数: 407 | 18 我没信啊。那么多问号呢。
【在 m*t 的大作中提到】
: 这你也信？网上随便找一下视频就知道是假的了
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpoOSjBZ3d4
: 这里面从助跑到拉起，总共12秒
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L*********2
发帖数: 10195 | 19 嘿嘿，山寨的。。。。隐身涂料的专利是公开的。
【在 U***1 的大作中提到】
: 偷？
: 隐身涂料不是J20有现成的吗？发动机为J-31准备的是自研的WS13。
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w*********a
发帖数: 9279 | |
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r********n
发帖数: 7441 | 21 说实话，人家评论比较靠谱，美国人开发过并工程化的机型有近千种，中国独立开发的
机型不超过二十种，实话实说，中国工程经验在美国面前确实还稚嫩得很
【在 w*****n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么要他们看得起，奇怪了
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G**L
发帖数: 22804 | 22 你这个视频根本是给人家说的找证据。冒黑烟就是在开加力
【在 m*t 的大作中提到】
: 这你也信？网上随便找一下视频就知道是假的了
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpoOSjBZ3d4
: 这里面从助跑到拉起，总共12秒
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e****e
发帖数: 1885 | 23 一款中国空军都未必会装备的预研机，能看出个什么来，机身尺寸，发动机，气动外形
都还没有确定。现在jjww有个屁用
沈飞能愿意在预研这个阶段就拿出来现，无论东西好坏，本身这个大方的公开表演相比
较以前就已经是巨大的进步了。
when
and
the
【在 l*****i 的大作中提到】
: 美国专家认为中国的隐身飞机就是‘见面不如闻名’
: CNN-Just how good is China's new 'stealth' fighter?
: http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/china-stealth-fighter-
: “The MiG official may be correct. An aircraft of this type designed with
: Russian assistance would probably perform better.
: The FC-31's flight routine shows that it "bleeds" too much energy -- so when
: it enters into a turn it begins to lose altitude. Even during straight and
: level flight the pilot has to engage the engine's afterburners in order to
: keep the aircraft from sinking to a lower altitude. These are defects in the
: aircraft's aerodynamic design that a Russian design team would not have
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b***d
发帖数: 439 | |
r********n
发帖数: 7441 | 25 设计不成熟不是什么大不了的事，美国开发的飞机中即使做出工程样机还最终放弃的多
了去了
【在 e****e 的大作中提到】
: 一款中国空军都未必会装备的预研机，能看出个什么来，机身尺寸，发动机，气动外形
: 都还没有确定。现在jjww有个屁用
: 沈飞能愿意在预研这个阶段就拿出来现，无论东西好坏，本身这个大方的公开表演相比
: 较以前就已经是巨大的进步了。
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: when
: and
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z****e
发帖数: 17 | 26 开宝马奔驰上街，就怕遇到开拖拉机的，虽然拖拉机冒黑烟最多。 |
e****e
发帖数: 1885 | 27 是的。
就连正式立项的J20，2001和2011款都差的远了。更别说这个连J字头代号都没有的所谓
“J31”
珠海航展已经标了，31001中的31是FC-31，而不是J31，这J和FC差的远了。FC打头几乎
就可以肯定是一款主打外贸的飞机。
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: 设计不成熟不是什么大不了的事，美国开发的飞机中即使做出工程样机还最终放弃的多
: 了去了
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b***d
发帖数: 439 | 28 没发现广场上的坦克机枪，被几辆拖拉机摧毁、打跑的。
也没见美国研制隐形战机，大陆用拖拉机装备空军来反击的。
我倒是非常期待共军把所有武器都换成小米+拖拉机，成果侵略世界。
【在 z****e 的大作中提到】
: 开宝马奔驰上街，就怕遇到开拖拉机的，虽然拖拉机冒黑烟最多。
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g********x
发帖数: 7361 | 29 呵呵，老汉奸还挺自豪的
你美20年前的技术确实挺牛，可惜现在被黑木三糟践完了，你丫悲粪也木有用
【在 L*********2 的大作中提到】
: 哟，既然你看过，有没有比较啊？这上面说的是不是真的？f22是不是出场也象烧劈柴
: 的似的？转向，加速，爬高怎么样？
: 别忘了，那是我美20年前的玩意。臭美啥啊？这还是用了老毛子的发动机。自己的还拿
: 不出台面呢。
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g*****o
发帖数: 5955 | 30 这飞机跟 F22 一个样，为啥说气动不行啊，那不是打 F22 耳光嘛 |
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m*t
发帖数: 7490 | 31 12秒起飞，还想不开加力，那得多牛B的动机？
别说F35了，F22也要被秒杀
【在 G**L 的大作中提到】
: 你这个视频根本是给人家说的找证据。冒黑烟就是在开加力
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