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Military版 - SDR 和 IMF的巨大问题,以及美国吸血问题
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m********5
发帖数: 17667
1
美元吸血从1971年就开始了,由于美国实际控制IMF, 导致改革一直无法进行。因此SDR
实际上没有成为当时预期的国际储备符号,现在也在总国际储备中占2-4%之间浮动。中
国的理想是建立一个新的超政权的国际储备货币,所有的贸易国家都要参加,避免大国
输出通胀和金融危机。但在IMF框架下,美国拥有否决权,如果以IMF的框架进行改革,
那么永远不可能实现。因此SDR加入不加入其实关系并不大。理论上如果IMF不让RMB加
入,则提供了让中国自立门户的口实,因此加入实际上是把球又踢给了TG, 自立门户的
时间又得推後。
At Bretton Woods in July 1944, the US dollar replaced the pound sterling as
the world reserve currency (WRC), backed by gold at US$35 per oz of gold.
Previously, the Western WRCs were first,the Portuguese escudo, followed by
the Spanish peso, then by the Dutch gilder, then by the French franc and the
pound sterling, following the Rise and Fall of Western Empires.
The US dollar, also known as the Federal Reserve Notes, served well as the
WRC until the US decided to print more paper dollars than there were gold to
back them up, to paper the huge cost of the 10-year war in Vietnam.
France and many countries saw through the scam and started to cash their
huge dollar cache (she accrued from US tourist) and redeemed for gold at
only US$35 an oz.
Today, that same oz of gold France redeemed is worth US$1,080, showing that
the US dollar has depreciated by nearly 3,000% since 15 August 1971, when
President Nixon had no choice but to close the gold window “temporarily”.
That resulted in a floating regime in 1973 and since then the US dollar is
backed by nothing and its huge national debts is now US$18.5 trillion.By the
time Obama leaves in Jan 2017, it will soar to US$20 trillion.
The SDR today is also backed by nothing and its value is “currently linked
to a basket of four global currencies: the US dollar, the euro, the British
pound and the Japanese yen, with their weights being 42, 37, 11 and 9 per
cent, respectively.”
Why should the SDR’s value be linked by 42% in weighting to the US dollar,
which has depreciated by 3,000% against gold since 15 August 1971 and the US
is the biggest debtor in the world?
“China has argued since the global financial crisis that the US dollar-
dominated international financial system excessively exposes investors to US
risks.”
This is correct.
“In his speech in March 2009, the Governor of the People’s Bank of China
Zhou Xiaochuan noted that there is a need to create a super-sovereign
currency whose value does not depend on any particular country’s economic
fortune.”
This also is the most credible suggestion.
So why shouldn’t the SDR be backed by gold (real money) at the rate of say
US$5,000 or MORE to create a sustainable amount of ‘real’ money for world
trade?
For the SDR to be backed by nothing is only to perpetuate a scam, a ‘free
lunch’ enjoyed by the US for the last 44 years.
China today has about 1.650 tons of central bank gold and an unknown amount
of silver.
In the last 30 years China may have produced at least 300 tons of gold a
year (not sold outside of China), which equate to another 9,000 tons. The
grand total is approx 10,065 tons vs about 8100 tons in the USA (if any).
If China buys more gold with her US$3.8 trillion of foreign reserves then
China will have, by far, the most amount of gold in the world, enough to
back the RMB.
If the RMB is backed by gold, then the RMB will be the new world reserve
currency, replacing the SDR itself, which is backed by nothing but an IMF
weighting scam.
Kittan,
I agree with most of what you have written except for the very end. If you
or anyone understands Zhou Xiaochuan’s words, it is quite obvious China
does not want to be the next replacement in line for the Yuan to become the
world’s sole reserve currency. The Chinese are smart enough to know that if
that ever happened it will be only a matter of time before they end up like
the US in the present. Heavily indebted with a future of ruin.
The Chinese and most of the world’s people know quite well that a basket of
currencies where all countries get equal benefit and risk would be the most
stable for the long term. Every currency should be part of the SDR. The
weaker the national economy, the less of a share that currency will have in
the SDR.
I can see China once in the SDR working with the EU and England to force the
IMF to open its doors to more currencies and rebalancing the SDR that
favours all nations. Of course, it will have a negative effect on the US
dollar, where the dollar will weaken and the US economy and control over
world affairs will weaken as well.
But in the long term it will result in a stronger economy for the whole
world.
k*****r
发帖数: 21039
2
fat ass was fooled again by barry. LMAO.
t**x
发帖数: 20965
3
赞解释精辟总结得好。
你这种人怎么在美国浪费生命

SDR
as

【在 m********5 的大作中提到】
: 美元吸血从1971年就开始了,由于美国实际控制IMF, 导致改革一直无法进行。因此SDR
: 实际上没有成为当时预期的国际储备符号,现在也在总国际储备中占2-4%之间浮动。中
: 国的理想是建立一个新的超政权的国际储备货币,所有的贸易国家都要参加,避免大国
: 输出通胀和金融危机。但在IMF框架下,美国拥有否决权,如果以IMF的框架进行改革,
: 那么永远不可能实现。因此SDR加入不加入其实关系并不大。理论上如果IMF不让RMB加
: 入,则提供了让中国自立门户的口实,因此加入实际上是把球又踢给了TG, 自立门户的
: 时间又得推後。
: At Bretton Woods in July 1944, the US dollar replaced the pound sterling as
: the world reserve currency (WRC), backed by gold at US$35 per oz of gold.
: Previously, the Western WRCs were first,the Portuguese escudo, followed by

m********5
发帖数: 17667
4
中国呢,对加入不加入其实不是特别在意,但声势上想要造成大部分IMF成员同意,而
美国一意孤行的状态,为另起炉灶制造舆论。引起表面上必需要非常努力加入SDR, 而
另一方面则处处激怒美国,比如这次的奥习会。习胖企图以此让美国在IMF启动反对票
,但美国的金融精英看来也不是傻子,由得奥在军事上大作文章,同意SDR这个事情上
却没有松口。于是RMB进入了SDR.
下一步,中国必然会纠集德法大闹IMF, 要求立即启动改革程序。美国自然是兵来将挡
,水来土淹。问题是德法的民意,在矿日持久的斗争中是否会发生变故。

SDR
as

【在 m********5 的大作中提到】
: 美元吸血从1971年就开始了,由于美国实际控制IMF, 导致改革一直无法进行。因此SDR
: 实际上没有成为当时预期的国际储备符号,现在也在总国际储备中占2-4%之间浮动。中
: 国的理想是建立一个新的超政权的国际储备货币,所有的贸易国家都要参加,避免大国
: 输出通胀和金融危机。但在IMF框架下,美国拥有否决权,如果以IMF的框架进行改革,
: 那么永远不可能实现。因此SDR加入不加入其实关系并不大。理论上如果IMF不让RMB加
: 入,则提供了让中国自立门户的口实,因此加入实际上是把球又踢给了TG, 自立门户的
: 时间又得推後。
: At Bretton Woods in July 1944, the US dollar replaced the pound sterling as
: the world reserve currency (WRC), backed by gold at US$35 per oz of gold.
: Previously, the Western WRCs were first,the Portuguese escudo, followed by

l*****i
发帖数: 20533
5
中国几条腿走路,不会吊死在一棵树上。加入这个,更大的是宣传效果,制造出人民币
可信的气氛,以便各国接受人民币作为主要储备外币之一,最后把美元独覇局面进一步
打破。尤其中美竞争的格局下,此消彼长是十分重要的。
实际上美国人也清楚其中关键,所以已经放风说是中国这次能加入是因为政治因素而并
非人民币本身符合条件。换句话说,他试图阻止中国借机进行人民币的推销。
T*U
发帖数: 22634
6
tg玩残了wto,害得md出了tpp。这下tg又要玩imf,md其实在拖延,拿tg见招拆招没办
法。

SDR
as

【在 m********5 的大作中提到】
: 美元吸血从1971年就开始了,由于美国实际控制IMF, 导致改革一直无法进行。因此SDR
: 实际上没有成为当时预期的国际储备符号,现在也在总国际储备中占2-4%之间浮动。中
: 国的理想是建立一个新的超政权的国际储备货币,所有的贸易国家都要参加,避免大国
: 输出通胀和金融危机。但在IMF框架下,美国拥有否决权,如果以IMF的框架进行改革,
: 那么永远不可能实现。因此SDR加入不加入其实关系并不大。理论上如果IMF不让RMB加
: 入,则提供了让中国自立门户的口实,因此加入实际上是把球又踢给了TG, 自立门户的
: 时间又得推後。
: At Bretton Woods in July 1944, the US dollar replaced the pound sterling as
: the world reserve currency (WRC), backed by gold at US$35 per oz of gold.
: Previously, the Western WRCs were first,the Portuguese escudo, followed by

D*****u
发帖数: 1090
7
Sdr的关键是人民币能否直接用来买石油和原材料。是不是储备货币不重要。
l******t
发帖数: 55733
8
你憋现在屁股太大到那一坐都得占大半边椅子
d**z
发帖数: 3577
9
所有纸币的最大问题,
就是如何能够尽量多发,
而还能尽量避免兑现。
认为货币升值压力是问题的,
根本不懂金融,而是脑残。
让人民币飙升,更是倒贴嫖资。
w*********g
发帖数: 30882
10
也不全是。
加入实际上给人民币起到了宣传作用。中国也不会因为加入了,就推迟人民币结算的推
进。正相反,中国会以人民币加入了SDR为噱头,进一步推动国际大宗商品的人民币结
算。
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