t**********3
发帖数: 12623 | 1 如果你没有工作，并选择不买医疗保险，你会被罚
如果你有工作，并选择不买医疗保险，你和你的雇主都会被罚
如果你有工作，但是雇主不提供医疗保险，你的雇主会被罚
...
没工作，负担不起，政府来帮你，给你免费医疗
工作的一算账发现工作交税还都要自己付premium，不如让政府帮，于是更少人纳税更
多人需要纳税的人养活
政府提高单位纳税人和工商业者税收，于是创造就业机会的中小工商业者被迫破产
政府帮不下去了，于是开始印钱搞政府工程提高政府雇员数量，尽为降低失业率统计
于是政府开支占GDP比重越来越高
通货膨胀，高税收，...
政府开始收购和国有化破产的私有商业
……
Welcome to the Socialist United State of America |
a********t
发帖数: 1810 | |
m*********o
发帖数: 7545 | 3 我家有一个工作，但雇主不给买保险的，想自己去买，结果保险公司说年龄太大了，拒
卖。这下终于解决了。 太好了。我要投OBAMA。 |
t**********3
发帖数: 12623 | 4 you're not entitled to be given healthcare insurance for free to begin with,
we always pay for things we want with money we earn.
declined for purchase? lol…that's a lie. even pre-existing condition will
not be declined for a premium.
【在 m*********o 的大作中提到】
: 我家有一个工作，但雇主不给买保险的，想自己去买，结果保险公司说年龄太大了，拒
: 卖。这下终于解决了。 太好了。我要投OBAMA。
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t**********3
发帖数: 12623 | 5 it's amazing that people think they as individuals should have zero
financial responsibilities to their own life.
they think things can just come free. do they see beyond their nose?
just amazing.
【在 m*********o 的大作中提到】
: 我家有一个工作，但雇主不给买保险的，想自己去买，结果保险公司说年龄太大了，拒
: 卖。这下终于解决了。 太好了。我要投OBAMA。
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m*********o
发帖数: 7545 | 6 而且 据我自己听的 他的意思是用 75% MEDCARE 放入OBAMACARE. 这个是固定的，你该
交还得交。在布什政府的时候，一共百分之13的SSN+MED,你交50% 雇主帮你交50%，而
现在是 雇主交 7.65% 你交 5.35%。 事实上如果你赚10W一年，你省了1150呢。用这钱
放在军费里 和 放在OBAMACARE 都是一样的。
09年 你有买房8000的抵税金，10年 你有每个人400块的MAKING WORK PAY。现在你有FT
HOME BUYER CREDIT. 你有CHILDCARE CREDIT 如果你有小孩，你有EDUCATION CREDIT
如果你有在读书，你有MEDICAL EXP DEDUCTION 如果你自己付医药费，你有MORTGAGE
INTEREST DEDUCTION 如果你有房产。 这些据我听到的都是 ROMNEY 要拿掉的。每个人
都是选对自己最有利的。我觉得正如R自己说的，他的政策有利小众。 |
Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 7 my point is, poor ppl who doesn't give a fuck about earning money and
working hard, should not be our responsibility!!!!!!!!!
fuck socialist
it is not middle class or upper class's responsibility to be forced to
taking care of the poor.
or if you really want to become socialist, take 50% out of everyone's income
and make education and health care free for all... oh wait, that ain't
gonna work!!!! Europe is bankrupt..... |
Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 8 if you are healthy, not old stop depending on food stamps or free ride
everything and sitting there all day playing iphones and driving BMWs and
just making 8 babies, CREATING BURDENS FOR THIS SOCIETY. |
t**********3
发帖数: 12623 | 9 lol, try to spell mathematics.
FT
CREDIT
【在 m*********o 的大作中提到】
: 而且 据我自己听的 他的意思是用 75% MEDCARE 放入OBAMACARE. 这个是固定的，你该
: 交还得交。在布什政府的时候，一共百分之13的SSN+MED,你交50% 雇主帮你交50%，而
: 现在是 雇主交 7.65% 你交 5.35%。 事实上如果你赚10W一年，你省了1150呢。用这钱
: 放在军费里 和 放在OBAMACARE 都是一样的。
: 09年 你有买房8000的抵税金，10年 你有每个人400块的MAKING WORK PAY。现在你有FT
: HOME BUYER CREDIT. 你有CHILDCARE CREDIT 如果你有小孩，你有EDUCATION CREDIT
: 如果你有在读书，你有MEDICAL EXP DEDUCTION 如果你自己付医药费，你有MORTGAGE
: INTEREST DEDUCTION 如果你有房产。 这些据我听到的都是 ROMNEY 要拿掉的。每个人
: 都是选对自己最有利的。我觉得正如R自己说的，他的政策有利小众。
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c***a
发帖数: 942 | 10 I know several people for a fact got rejected for health insurance for pre-
existing condition. He got offer for a new job, but that company do not
offer his current insurance company. He worked with their HR and insurance
company for quite a while but can't straight it out. His condition is common
with many Jews and he said that many other people have the same problem
I am not sure whether what you said is based on your own experience or from
people around you.
with,
【在 t**********3 的大作中提到】
: you're not entitled to be given healthcare insurance for free to begin with,
: we always pay for things we want with money we earn.
: declined for purchase? lol…that's a lie. even pre-existing condition will
: not be declined for a premium.
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t**********3
发帖数: 12623 | 11 health insurance product is expensive for people with pre-existing
conditions, but more than half of providers do offer coverage specifically
designed for beneficiaries with pre-existing conditions, the deduction is
higher at the beginning then drops down.
from a bigger perspective, a healthcare insurance is a financial product, a
privilege not a right or entitlement, if you want it, you should pay for it,
if you don't have money, then earn it, if you don't want to work to earn,
then go to hell.
it's just like any other insurance product, such as car insurance, if you
choose not to have a comprehensive coverage, and you wreck your car, you
call Geico and ask for a comprehensive coverage, they are going to say no,
this is "pre-existing damage"
common
from
【在 c***a 的大作中提到】
: I know several people for a fact got rejected for health insurance for pre-
: existing condition. He got offer for a new job, but that company do not
: offer his current insurance company. He worked with their HR and insurance
: company for quite a while but can't straight it out. His condition is common
: with many Jews and he said that many other people have the same problem
: I am not sure whether what you said is based on your own experience or from
: people around you.
:
: with,
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 12 I think you may have misinterpreted his proposal:
"Romney’s Tax Deduction Cap Could Raise $1.3 Trillion!
Newsflash: Mitt Romney may not be a liar after all.
In fact, the Wall Street Journal reports that a new analysis by the Tax
Policy Center supports the GOP presidential candidate’s claim that capping
itemized deductions at $25,000 would generate about $1.3 trillion in
additional revenue over 10 years.
Mr. Romney has been pitching the idea in the face of Democratic charges that
his plan to cut individual tax rates by 20% will only help the wealthy.
They argue that deductions are taken primarily by “higher earners.”
But the policy center’s analysis indicates that capping deductions at $17,
000 would bring in $1.7 trillion over 10 years, even after a 20% rate cut;
also, a $50,000 cap–which would allow for more and bigger deductions–would
raise $760 billion.
In Tuesday night’s debate with President Barack Obama, Mr. Romney offered $
25,000 as a possible limit, and Obama pretty much called him a liar, albeit
indirectly."
FT
CREDIT
【在 m*********o 的大作中提到】
: 而且 据我自己听的 他的意思是用 75% MEDCARE 放入OBAMACARE. 这个是固定的，你该
: 交还得交。在布什政府的时候，一共百分之13的SSN+MED,你交50% 雇主帮你交50%，而
: 现在是 雇主交 7.65% 你交 5.35%。 事实上如果你赚10W一年，你省了1150呢。用这钱
: 放在军费里 和 放在OBAMACARE 都是一样的。
: 09年 你有买房8000的抵税金，10年 你有每个人400块的MAKING WORK PAY。现在你有FT
: HOME BUYER CREDIT. 你有CHILDCARE CREDIT 如果你有小孩，你有EDUCATION CREDIT
: 如果你有在读书，你有MEDICAL EXP DEDUCTION 如果你自己付医药费，你有MORTGAGE
: INTEREST DEDUCTION 如果你有房产。 这些据我听到的都是 ROMNEY 要拿掉的。每个人
: 都是选对自己最有利的。我觉得正如R自己说的，他的政策有利小众。
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l***c
发帖数: 1634 | 13 hey, thats why we gonna make you pay for us
a
it,
【在 t**********3 的大作中提到】
: health insurance product is expensive for people with pre-existing
: conditions, but more than half of providers do offer coverage specifically
: designed for beneficiaries with pre-existing conditions, the deduction is
: higher at the beginning then drops down.
: from a bigger perspective, a healthcare insurance is a financial product, a
: privilege not a right or entitlement, if you want it, you should pay for it,
: if you don't have money, then earn it, if you don't want to work to earn,
: then go to hell.
: it's just like any other insurance product, such as car insurance, if you
: choose not to have a comprehensive coverage, and you wreck your car, you
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l***c
发帖数: 1634 | 14 why cant things come for free?
how much are you making?
【在 t**********3 的大作中提到】
: it's amazing that people think they as individuals should have zero
: financial responsibilities to their own life.
: they think things can just come free. do they see beyond their nose?
: just amazing.
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t**********3
发帖数: 12623 | 15 get a brain or grow one.
【在 l***c 的大作中提到】
: hey, thats why we gonna make you pay for us
:
: a
: it,
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p**********d
发帖数: 276 | 16 哀其不幸，怒其不争，世上愚民多，中美都一样。纽约还是巴马赢，悲哀但没办法。
【在 t**********3 的大作中提到】
: 如果你没有工作，并选择不买医疗保险，你会被罚
: 如果你有工作，并选择不买医疗保险，你和你的雇主都会被罚
: 如果你有工作，但是雇主不提供医疗保险，你的雇主会被罚
: ...
: 没工作，负担不起，政府来帮你，给你免费医疗
: 工作的一算账发现工作交税还都要自己付premium，不如让政府帮，于是更少人纳税更
: 多人需要纳税的人养活
: 政府提高单位纳税人和工商业者税收，于是创造就业机会的中小工商业者被迫破产
: 政府帮不下去了，于是开始印钱搞政府工程提高政府雇员数量，尽为降低失业率统计
: 于是政府开支占GDP比重越来越高
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l***c
发帖数: 1634 | 17 ha, why do i need a brain when i got jackasses like u to pay for everything?
if you dont like it, get the fuck out of the country
【在 t**********3 的大作中提到】
: get a brain or grow one.
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